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Because you hate/dislike the Obama administration it doesn't make Trump any less of an assclown.
His administration has been a shit show since day 1.

It has nothing to do with like/dislike.

Those were a handful of high profile cases of the Obama administration listening in to situations they shouldn't have been.

That is why I believe Trump's claim.
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Because you hate/dislike the Obama administration it doesn't make Trump any less of an ass clown.
His administration has been a shit show since day 1 and he has been a con man all his adult life.

Prove it you idiot. Show me one shred of tangible proof that Trump's been an assclown.

You can't. His policies have been spot on. You don't like the presentation but that's on you.

Please give me a solid, real instance of something bad happening in the States because of Trump's administration.

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It has less to do with what Trump has done; rather it deals with the past dealings of the Obama Administration.
Because the Obama Administration has illegally spied on individuals in the past (foreign leaders & US journalists):

*The US National Security Agency bugged a private climate change strategy meeting; between UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon and German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Berlin;
*Obama bugged Chief of Staff of UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) for long term interception targetting his Swiss phone;
* Obama singled out the Director of the Rules Division of the World Trade Organisation (WTO), Johann Human, and targetted his Swiss phone for long term interception;
* Obama stole sensitive Italian diplomatic cables detailing how Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu implored Italy’s Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi to help patch up his relationship with US President Barack Obama, who was refusing to talk to Netanyahu;
* Obama intercepted top EU and Japanese trade ministers discussing their secret strategy and red lines to stop the US “extort[ing]” them at the WTO Doha arounds (the talks subsequently collapsed);
* Obama explicitly targeted five other top EU economic officials for long term interception, including their French, Austrian and Belgium phone numbers;
* Obama explicitly targetted the phones of Italy’s ambassador to NATO and other top Italian officials for long term interception; and
* Obama intercepted details of a critical private meeting between then French president Nicolas Sarkozy, Merkel and Berluscon, where the latter was told the Italian banking system was ready to “pop like a cork”.

In addition to the above list we also know now that Obama wire tapped various individuals in the US media that were reporting information not flattering to the Obama Administration.  It is widely known that Obama’s Justice Department targeted journalists with wiretaps in 2013:

* In 2013 the liberal Washington Post expressed outrage after the revelation that the Justice Department had investigated the newsgathering activities of a Fox News reporter as a potential crime in a probe of classified leaks.  The reporter, Fox News’ James Rosen and his family, were part of an investigation into government officials anonymously leaking information to journalists. Rosen was not charged but his movements and actions were tracked.
* Also in 2013, members of the Associated Press were also a target of the surveillance.  The ultra liberal New Yorker even noted that “In moderate and liberal circles, at least, the phone-records scandal, partly because it involves the dear old A.P. and partly because it raises anew the specter of Big Brother, may well present the most serious threat to Obama’s reputation.”
* Reporter Sharyl Attkisson said in 2014 that her personal computer and CBS laptop were hacked after she began filing stories about Benghazi that were unflattering to the Obama administration.  A source who checked her laptop said the hacker used spyware “proprietary to a government agency,” according to an article in the New York Post.


If Trump actually thought this, why would he announce it to the world over Twitter?

I'm sorry, but you can not create policy and govern the United States of America in 140 characters.

If Trump has the evidence, he should go to the DOJ and the FBI and call Obama to some kind of congressional hearing. You just can't do it off the cuff.

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If Trump actually thought this, why would he announce it to the world over Twitter?

I'm sorry, but you can not create policy and govern the United States of America in 140 characters.

If Trump has the evidence, he should go to the DOJ and the FBI and call Obama to some kind of congressional hearing. You just can't do it off the cuff.

No, you can't govern by Twitter, but that's Trump. Why do you expect him to change?

He did request Congress to look into the matter.

I still believe there is more going on behind the scenes than we know. Time will tell. I'll eat crow if I am wrong.
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YUP!  ;)  I really do.



Jeez - Let it Go.....
Still Bitter & Twisted That Killary Lost... :'(

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No, you can't govern by Twitter, but that's Trump. Why do you expect him to change?

He did request Congress to look into the matter.

I still believe there is more going on behind the scenes than we know. Time will tell. I'll eat crow if I am wrong.

I except the President to act a little more Presidential that's all. He can get his point across without engaging in Twitter wars. That's stuff that these generation nothing people do.

Not what I expect The President of the United States to do.

I am not saying he's some terrible leader either. I'm just saying that I think he would serve himself a lot better if he took some things a little more seriously than to announce them on a Social Media site.

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I except the President to act a little more Presidential that's all. He can get his point across without engaging in Twitter wars. That's stuff that these generation nothing people do.

Not what I expect The President of the United States to do.

I am not saying he's some terrible leader either. I'm just saying that I think he would serve himself a lot better if he took some things a little more seriously than to announce them on a Social Media site.

I actually wish more Republicans would act like him.
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Unlike Mr Putin, Mr Trump acts as though tactical is the same as strategic

Mr Trump is  very skilled at selling to those who confuse appearance with reality
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That kenyan homo communist bitch obama wiretapped Merkels cell phone remember? 

Yeah - but he would never do that to anyone else. . . . . . ok. 

believe what you want libfags. 

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That kenyan homo communist bitch obama wiretapped Merkels cell phone remember? 

Yeah - but he would never do that to anyone else. . . . . . ok. 

believe what you want libfags. 

But there was evidence for that. Where's the evidence that Obama had anything to do with these transcripts? Trump SHOULD have access to this information and could release it.

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But there was evidence for that. Where's the evidence that Obama had anything to do with these transcripts? Trump SHOULD have access to this information and could release it.

I think Trump is letting the rats skurry around and will drop the duece on them when he wants

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I think Trump is letting the rats skurry around and will drop the duece on them when he wants

But Trump is known to make asinine statements and then never back it up. Then his spokespeople are left having to give cringe-worthy explanations for what he has said.

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you have been lost since Mr Trump won the election
you need post Obama bereavement counselling.

Just amused endlessly at you liberal asshats melting down.