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Re: Ric Drasin, was it gay?did balls touch?was eye contact made?
« Reply #50 on: March 19, 2017, 02:31:48 AM »
Many years ago on here or another old site I remember Jimmy saying that the original Gold's gym was basically a casting couch for gay film makers to pick up talent for the porn industry. I'm sure this is the real reason Sprague purchased it and I believe he also had his own film studio so perhaps he was on a % for the Gold's members who made it into porn. He is a clever businessman and saw a market. Funny to watch old training clips from Pumping Iron knowing now that it was a cattle market for producers to pick up men to indulge in onscreen bumfoolery.

Maybe the opening line in Pumping Iron should have been :

"Golds Gym, Venice California,  where men train so they can take dick in their holes on film for the masturbation of old pervs.  Arnold is coming in today to prepare for the Mr Olympia".

Interesting, at least powerlifting never had that kind of faggotry

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Re: Ric Drasin, was it gay?did balls touch?was eye contact made?
« Reply #51 on: March 19, 2017, 02:37:31 AM »
A bit of Sprague's side can be found here. The dude is unrepentantly gay for pay -

http://books.google.com/books?id=ZeCEBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA233&lpg=PA233&dq=loadstar+gay+film&source=bl&ots=RHr9uWS75C&sig=paqlHWGlnRAfKo5Es7CQs7ZM_IM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjhg5mC0ODSAhWDwxQKHciNA98Q6AEIMjAE#v=onepage&q=drasin&f=false .


Very interdasting stuff.  And excellent research skills, by the way.  I found the book precis contained one statement in particular that is apropos here:

"For most of the twentieth century, the “Mr. America” image epitomized muscular manhood. From humble beginnings in 1939 at a small gym in Schenectady, New York, the Mr. America Contest became the world’s premier bodybuilding event over the next thirty years. Rooted in ancient Greek virtues of health, fitness, beauty, and athleticism, it showcased some of the finest specimens of American masculinity. Interviewing nearly one hundred major figures in the physical culture movement (including twenty-five Mr. Americas) and incorporating copious printed and manuscript sources, John D. Fair has created the definitive study of this iconic phenomenon."

I think that list may be missing the biggest 'Greek virtue' of them all....  ;)



Just for the record though, I find the whole G4P thing amusing rather than offensive - whatever people want to do with themselves is up to them - no homo(phobe) here....
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Re: Ric Drasin, was it gay?did balls touch?was eye contact made?
« Reply #52 on: March 19, 2017, 02:42:31 AM »
I've decided that I refuse to believe this or any other G4P shenanigans that are rumored to have taken place.


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Re: Ric Drasin, was it gay?did balls touch?was eye contact made?
« Reply #53 on: March 19, 2017, 02:49:30 AM »
It's an American happenstance

This shit don't go on in England or the rest of Europe

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Re: Ric Drasin, was it gay?did balls touch?was eye contact made?
« Reply #54 on: March 19, 2017, 07:21:18 AM »
It's an American happenstance

This shit don't go on in England

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Re: Ric Drasin, was it gay?did balls touch?was eye contact made?
« Reply #55 on: March 19, 2017, 07:30:49 AM »
Interesting, at least powerlifting never had that kind of faggotry


Seems like big bear types of men are also populair in gay videos? But perhaps some guy with the right genes already look like powerlifters.
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Re: Ric Drasin, was it gay?did balls touch?was eye contact made?
« Reply #56 on: March 19, 2017, 07:41:29 AM »
Interesting, at least powerlifting never had that kind of faggotry

I wouldn't go that far, I know of a couple of champions that have done very hardcore porn. One even did a degrading thing called "Gay Chicken", where he let a guy smack him repeatedly with his pecker. I won't blow up their spots, but Powerlifting gay for pay is out there, just less of it, and better hidden.

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Re: Ric Drasin, was it gay?did balls touch?was eye contact made?
« Reply #57 on: March 19, 2017, 07:45:33 AM »
I wouldn't go that far, I know of a couple of champions that have done very hardcore porn. One even did a degrading thing called "Gay Chicken", where he let a guy smack him repeatedly with his pecker. I won't blow up their spots, but Powerlifting gay for pay is out there, just less of it, and better hidden.

Tbombz?
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Re: Ric Drasin, was it gay?did balls touch?was eye contact made?
« Reply #58 on: March 19, 2017, 07:59:52 AM »
Tbombz?

Naw, Tbombz strikes me as far more aggressive than these guys were in their videos  :).

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Re: Ric Drasin, was it gay?did balls touch?was eye contact made?
« Reply #59 on: March 19, 2017, 08:14:14 AM »
We need Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HHP, CEO, to confirm this.


This wasn't an isolated incident.  I would estimate that Ric could have done well over 100 gay porn videos....most of them would have been for private collections for the wealthy.  There's no telling.  The reason its so hard to locate is because they went by porn names.....Ken Sprague for example went by Dakota.  In addition, they filmed a number of Village People Blue Oyster exhibitions where they were wearing spiked dog collars and leather masks.

These videos were only released because the collector likely passed away and the estates are secretly selling the videos for profit.  Not to defend Ric but he was likely blackmailed into doing the videos which was quite common back then and still today. 
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« Reply #60 on: March 19, 2017, 08:32:01 AM »
Ric's corner..........

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Re: Ric Drasin, was it gay?did balls touch?was eye contact made?
« Reply #61 on: March 19, 2017, 08:41:00 AM »
His porn name was Dick Raisin.




Lol.  Good one.

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Re: Ric Drasin, was it gay?did balls touch?was eye contact made?
« Reply #62 on: March 19, 2017, 09:04:03 AM »
Imagine how many successful muscle macho men ( in the eyes of society,friends and family) live everyday with the fear that in any minute a gay video or photo shoot form years ago will emerge.

I know a friend of a friend very respectable Alfa type. That Every time someone calls him. And say : " There's something I want to talk about  " or a simple " you won't believe what a I just discovered  "  he just panic ,
Many guys out there live with their heart in heir mouths ready to throw up. 

And I'm talking about guys that you'd be intimidated to see in person or shake hands with .


God exist , and is probably darker than you think.

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Re: Ric Drasin, was it gay?did balls touch?was eye contact made?
« Reply #63 on: March 19, 2017, 09:37:09 AM »
Imagine how many successful muscle macho men ( in the eyes of society,friends and family) live everyday with the fear that in any minute a gay video or photo shoot form years ago will emerge.

I know a friend of a friend very respectable Alfa type. That Every time someone calls him. And say : " There's something I want to talk about  " or a simple " you won't believe what a I just discovered  "  he just panic ,
Many guys out there live with their heart in heir mouths ready to throw up. 

And I'm talking about guys that you'd be intimidated to see in person or shake hands with .


God exist , and is probably darker than you think.


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Re: Ric Drasin, was it gay?did balls touch?was eye contact made?
« Reply #64 on: March 19, 2017, 09:54:05 AM »
Ric's corner..........

Ric's Cornhole?

Not to defend Ric but he was likely blackmailed into doing the videos which was quite common back then and still today. 

lol you'd think the video itself would be the subject of the blackmail. What could someone possibly have on him that he'd have to do gay homosexual sex?


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« Reply #65 on: March 19, 2017, 10:34:53 AM »

This wasn't an isolated incident.  I would estimate that Ric could have done well over 100 gay porn videos....most of them would have been for private collections for the wealthy.  There's no telling.  The reason its so hard to locate is because they went by porn names.....Ken Sprague for example went by Dakota.  In addition, they filmed a number of Village People Blue Oyster exhibitions where they were wearing spiked dog collars and leather masks.

These videos were only released because the collector likely passed away and the estates are secretly selling the videos for profit.  Not to defend Ric but he was likely blackmailed into doing the videos which was quite common back then and still today. 

Guys this is accurate.  I just spoke to Ric and after a long discussion he said he was black mailed against his will to do these videos. He said he got involved with some very dangerous people and the only way out was to film these "videos of debauchery and derangement" (his words).

He has held this shame for years and was often tormented and abused by the video owners who threatened to release the tapes if he didnt preform as requested (meaning he was black mailed into even more henious activities) , this even took place as recently as 2015.

He did say it wasn't completely one sided as the abuser helped set up his youtube page and provided him with his video camera and interview table. He also explained how he had a very good friendship with the unnamed collector and he's not sure how he will carry on without him.

 He's now afraid with the recent passing of the video owners he will lose the popularity he has garnered on social media.

I told him this sounds like Stockholm syndrome and he agreed ( this was after explaining what s.s. is). He then said he wasn't even aware of how badly he was taken advantage of.

The conversation was very eye opening for Ric.

Despite all this he is actually relieved this is over and it feels like he has been set free.

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Re: Ric Drasin, was it gay?did balls touch?was eye contact made?
« Reply #66 on: March 19, 2017, 11:28:12 AM »
Guys this is accurate.  I just spoke to Ric and after a long discussion he said he was black mailed against his will to do these videos. He said he got involved with some very dangerous people and the only way out was to film these "videos of debauchery and derangement" (his words).

He has held this shame for years and was often tormented and abused by the video owners who threatened to release the tapes if he didnt preform as requested (meaning he was black mailed into even more henious activities) , this even took place as recently as 2015.

He did say it wasn't completely one sided as the abuser helped set up his youtube page and provided him with his video camera and interview table. He also explained how he had a very good friendship with the unnamed collector and he's not sure how he will carry on without him.

 He's now afraid with the recent passing of the video owners he will lose the popularity he has garnered on social media.

I told him this sounds like Stockholm syndrome and he agreed ( this was after explaining what s.s. is). He then said he wasn't even aware of how badly he was taken advantage of.

The conversation was very eye opening for Ric.

Despite all this he is actually relieved this is over and it feels like he has been set free.


Why didn't Ric go to the police?

Odd story....... :-X

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Re: Ric Drasin, was it gay?did balls touch?was eye contact made?
« Reply #67 on: March 19, 2017, 11:35:11 AM »
Very few guys had jobs back in those days. Supplement contracts didn't exist. Only a few had Weider contracts and it wasn't a lot of money. I always wondered how they existed without a job yet had an apartment, food and a car.

Doing G4P (from light to heavy so to say) voluntarily is still vastly different than being blackmailed to do it?

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Re: Ric Drasin, was it gay?did balls touch?was eye contact made?
« Reply #68 on: March 19, 2017, 11:49:02 AM »
I'd take my chances and end some guys before I ever sucked or fucked other dudes. Serious. I'm not even remotely being a tough guy when I say this.

My dignity and manhood is more important to me than some lowlife lives. And if I got dead or put in jail, that'd be preferable to slurping cock and inserting my penis into another man's asshole.

Also, to become entangled in dealings with undesireables is an idiot's tale.

Especially if you've got a family or close, living relatives.




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« Reply #69 on: March 19, 2017, 12:12:54 PM »
Ric's corner..........
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« Reply #70 on: March 19, 2017, 12:19:21 PM »
Guys this is accurate.  I just spoke to Ric and after a long discussion he said he was black mailed against his will to do these videos. He said he got involved with some very dangerous people and the only way out was to film these "videos of debauchery and derangement" (his words).

He has held this shame for years and was often tormented and abused by the video owners who threatened to release the tapes if he didnt preform as requested (meaning he was black mailed into even more henious activities) , this even took place as recently as 2015.

He did say it wasn't completely one sided as the abuser helped set up his youtube page and provided him with his video camera and interview table. He also explained how he had a very good friendship with the unnamed collector and he's not sure how he will carry on without him.

 He's now afraid with the recent passing of the video owners he will lose the popularity he has garnered on social media.

I told him this sounds like Stockholm syndrome and he agreed ( this was after explaining what s.s. is). He then said he wasn't even aware of how badly he was taken advantage of.

The conversation was very eye opening for Ric.

Despite all this he is actually relieved this is over and it feels like he has been set free.
The whole thing is obviously bullshit.  Blackmailed by the same guy that helped him set up his Youtube page, giving him a video camera and interview table  ::)  Yeah, Ok hahhahahahah  Then he says he has remained friends with the "unnamed" collector.  (where is the "blackmail" in all of this.  Sounds like there is a better chance of an erect "Black Male" in all of this instead.)


His best course of action would be to just admit that he sucked a dick, licked an ass and generally enjoyed it and the money rather than construct a pathetic lie and story that makes no sense.


Ric, you did gay things.  Why are you pretending to be ashamed of it?  Embrace the bunny suit.  Don't run away from it. hahahah

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Re: Ric Drasin, was it gay?did balls touch?was eye contact made?
« Reply #71 on: March 19, 2017, 12:27:22 PM »
I'd take my chances and end some guys before I ever sucked or fucked other dudes. Serious. I'm not even remotely being a tough guy when I say this.

My dignity and manhood is more important to me than some lowlife lives. And if I got dead or put in jail, that'd be preferable to slurping cock and inserting my penis into another man's asshole.

Also, to become entangled in dealings with undesireables is an idiot's tale.

Especially if you've got a family or close, living relatives.




The whole thing is bullshit.  Did you see the smile on Ric's face when he entered The Brown Ring?  Ear to Ear, as if he just won a wrestling match at the Ferndale Middle School crafts bazaar.

This is not a video of Denton Jr. blinking morse code, this is a man grinning in ecstasy with each veritable thrust. 

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Re: Ric Drasin, was it gay?did balls touch?was eye contact made?
« Reply #72 on: March 19, 2017, 12:53:28 PM »
I don't want to insert my hammer into a woman's ass, and I am (sexually) obsessed with females. No way I would EVER do such a thing to a man. Or allow a guy to do that to me.

Instant loss of any and all self respect. Forever.

And no welcome into Valhalla. That's for certain. Odin would call you a fag got and laugh in your face.

Nothing's worth all that. 

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Re: Ric Drasin, was it gay?did balls touch?was eye contact made?
« Reply #73 on: March 19, 2017, 01:50:53 PM »
I don't want to insert my hammer into a woman's ass, and I am (sexually) obsessed with females. No way I would EVER do such a thing to a man. Or allow a guy to do that to me.

Instant loss of any and all self respect. Forever.

And no welcome into Valhalla. That's for certain. Odin would call you a fag got and laugh in your face.

Nothing's worth all that. 
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Re: Ric Drasin, was it gay?did balls touch?was eye contact made?
« Reply #74 on: March 19, 2017, 02:00:05 PM »
The whole thing is bullshit.  Did you see the smile on Ric's face when he entered The Brown Ring?  Ear to Ear, as if he just won a wrestling match at the Ferndale Middle School crafts bazaar.

This is not a video of Denton Jr. blinking morse code, this is a man grinning in ecstasy with each veritable thrust. 

The thought alone makes me want to hurl. Fucking sick shit.
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