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Re: Wrestlers new look.
« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2006, 11:05:24 AM »
What's your opinion on wrestling BayGBM, is it an innately GAY sport? Real wrestling or this fake wrestling, doesn't matter.

I DO think wrestling is gay (though less gay than body building) and I’m talking about WWE and their competitors--not real Greco-Roman wrestling.

When I say the sport is gay I don’t mean all the competitors are homosexual--though you would be very surprised to learn who some of the gay competitors are.  I certainly was!  Maybe I shouldn’t call them gay at all; it’s more correct to say some are heterosexual but like occasional intimate contact with other men. ;)

When I say wrestling is gay, I mean the sport is tapping into and capitalizing on the homoerotic appetites & impulses of the audience.  The audience is, of course, mostly men and they want to see heavily muscled men, scantily clad men engaged in simulated fisticuffs.  Audiences find evenly matched opponents fun to watch but very often in wrestling you have a huge monster up against a twerp who looks hoplessly outmatched.  Why is that?  Often it is a similated dom/sub fantasy.  Very often in such matches onlookers project themselves into one of those roles.  Few would admit it but many guys who do not identify as gay would like to be manhandled and tossed around by Warlord just like in these photos...

Read the profiles or webpages of any muscle escort and they often talk about offering to perform feats of strength or dom/sub role play.  A lot of their clients really get into that stuff.  Similarly, some enjoy the thrill of “defeating” a big man.  It’s all part of erotic role play and your seeing a version of that in wrestling.

There's a lot more I could say... but you get the drift.

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Re: Wrestlers new look.
« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2006, 11:55:48 AM »
I DO think wrestling is gay (though less gay than body building) and I’m talking about WWE and their competitors--not real Greco-Roman wrestling.

When I say the sport is gay I don’t mean all the competitors are homosexual--though you would be very surprised to learn who some of the gay competitors are.  I certainly was!  Maybe I shouldn’t call them gay at all; it’s more correct to say some are heterosexual but like occasional intimate contact with other men. ;)

When I say wrestling is gay, I mean the sport is tapping into and capitalizing on the homoerotic appetites & impulses of the audience.  The audience is, of course, mostly men and they want to see heavily muscled men, scantily clad men engaged in simulated fisticuffs.  Audiences find evenly matched opponents fun to watch but very often in wrestling you have a huge monster up against a twerp who looks hoplessly outmatched.  Why is that?  Often it is a similated dom/sub fantasy.  Very often in such matches onlookers project themselves into one of those roles.  Few would admit it but many guys who do not identify as gay would like to be manhandled and tossed around by Warlord just like in these photos...

Read the profiles or webpages of any muscle escort and they often talk about offering to perform feats of strength or dom/sub role play.  A lot of their clients really get into that stuff.  Similarly, some enjoy the thrill of “defeating” a big man.  It’s all part of erotic role play and your seeing a version of that in wrestling.

There's a lot more I could say... but you get the drift.


I think your are in the minority of men who fantasize about other men this way.  Your gay conspiracy theories are entertaining though. ;D
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Re: Wrestlers new look.
« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2006, 12:05:56 PM »
I DO think wrestling is gay (though less gay than body building) and I’m talking about WWE and their competitors--not real Greco-Roman wrestling.

Why is Greco-Roman wrestling not gay? I'm interested in your opinion. Afterall, it is two very sweaty men hugging eachother in very suggestive ways; often the other dudes head is near the other dudes sweaty crotch for quite a while. Furthermore, the suits they wear show their family jewels very clearly.

When I say the sport is gay I don’t mean all the competitors are homosexual--though you would be very surprised to learn who some of the gay competitors are.  I certainly was!  Maybe I shouldn’t call them gay at all; it’s more correct to say some are heterosexual but like occasional intimate contact with other men. ;)

So let's hear some names then. Oh right, you don't want to gossip, or whatever your newest excuse is.
Seriously, tell us a few guys who are gay and let's have some proof with that, shall we?

When I say wrestling is gay, I mean the sport is tapping into and capitalizing on the homoerotic appetites & impulses of the audience.  The audience is, of course, mostly men and they want to see heavily muscled men, scantily clad men engaged in simulated fisticuffs.  Audiences find evenly matched opponents fun to watch but very often in wrestling you have a huge monster up against a twerp who looks hoplessly outmatched.  Why is that?  Often it is a similated dom/sub fantasy.  Very often in such matches onlookers project themselves into one of those roles.  Few would admit it but many guys who do not identify as gay would like to be manhandled and tossed around by Warlord just like in these photos...

So you would say that the audience, which is 95% redneck hicks with mullets, are nearly all gay?


There's a lot more I could say... but you get the drift.

No I don't. Let's see some dirt instead of baseless theories for a change, shall we?

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Re: Wrestlers new look.
« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2006, 01:14:09 PM »
I DO think wrestling is gay (though less gay than body building) and I’m talking about WWE and their competitors--not real Greco-Roman wrestling.

When I say the sport is gay I don’t mean all the competitors are homosexual--though you would be very surprised to learn who some of the gay competitors are.  I certainly was!  Maybe I shouldn’t call them gay at all; it’s more correct to say some are heterosexual but like occasional intimate contact with other men. ;)

When I say wrestling is gay, I mean the sport is tapping into and capitalizing on the homoerotic appetites & impulses of the audience.  The audience is, of course, mostly men and they want to see heavily muscled men, scantily clad men engaged in simulated fisticuffs.  Audiences find evenly matched opponents fun to watch but very often in wrestling you have a huge monster up against a twerp who looks hoplessly outmatched.  Why is that?  Often it is a similated dom/sub fantasy.  Very often in such matches onlookers project themselves into one of those roles.  Few would admit it but many guys who do not identify as gay would like to be manhandled and tossed around by Warlord just like in these photos...

Read the profiles or webpages of any muscle escort and they often talk about offering to perform feats of strength or dom/sub role play.  A lot of their clients really get into that stuff.  Similarly, some enjoy the thrill of “defeating” a big man.  It’s all part of erotic role play and your seeing a version of that in wrestling.

There's a lot more I could say... but you get the drift.

You have got it all wrong here. Maybe your being gay makes you think that 'normal' (heterosexual) guys have sub-concious (knowingly or unknowingly) 'desires' to see scantily clad guys pose (bodybuilding) or fight (wrestling etc) to feed an unacknowledged need or something like that. Not at all. Someone once said we are in contact with only our own mind/conciousness and thus, think others think like us or have similar patterns of perception etc. But this is hardly the case. That is why, people sometimes find it hard to understand other people's opinion, especially if its opposed to their own.

To take the above case for example (and judging from your past posts) - you often say that bodybuilding consists of nearly naked, muscular men in thongs all oiled up and shaved down and posing for an audience consisting mostly of cheering men. That doesnt necessarily mean any or all of the guys in the audience or the bodybuilder(s) are gay (though in reality, there probably are a few). You see the audience cheering the bodybuilders and seem to conclude its because they are.

I myself am straight - always have and always will be (If I was gay or even bisexual, i would admit it, since no one knows me here + no one cares in this day and age). I have been following bodybuilding for years now. I buy magazines and even training / competition videos and watch them before going to the gym to psych myself up. And I can say in all honesty (as i'm sure can a lot of other guys here) that I have NEVER experienced any arousal at all when I go through the mags or watch a video. And I'm old enough to know when I'm aroused - happens all the time and ALWAYS can be attributed to a female(s).

Because you are gay and you look at guys (in your case, due to the nature of your taste - bodybuilders), you seem to think other guys looking at bodybuilders have similar feelings. NOT AT ALL. When I look at a bodybuilder, i am looking at his body and the focus /fixation is purely on the body (and nothing else). BUT that DOES NOT mean i'm gay or getting aroused. What I get out of seeing a bodybuilders body is motivation and sometimes envy. It helps me get to my goal in a way. When you are exhausted during your workout or in a lot of pain, the image of a bodybuilder you are a fan of definitely helps you go the extra step/mile.

In other words, straight guys looking at bodybuilders is no different than gay guys in the fashion industry looking at female models. We've all seen gay guys make a huge fuss over the way a girl looks (often, they pick up details that the model herself misses). But just because his primary purpose of being there is to solely look / judge / think about the looks of a woman(s body) doesnt mean he has an unacknowledged / innate tendency to want to bone her.

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Re: Wrestlers new look.
« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2006, 01:24:01 PM »
I think Bay hit a nerve and your all queers hahahahaha
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Re: Wrestlers new look.
« Reply #30 on: April 04, 2006, 01:29:13 PM »
When I say wrestling is gay, I mean the sport is tapping into and capitalizing on the homoerotic appetites & impulses of the audience.  The audience is, of course, mostly men and they want to see heavily muscled men, scantily clad men engaged in simulated fisticuffs.  Audiences find evenly matched opponents fun to watch but very often in wrestling you have a huge monster up against a twerp who looks hoplessly outmatched.  Why is that?  Often it is a similated dom/sub fantasy.  Very often in such matches onlookers project themselves into one of those roles.  Few would admit it but many guys who do not identify as gay would like to be manhandled and tossed around by Warlord just like in these photos...

Again, in regards to this, I want to quote a statement someone once made - People go to the zoos to see lions and tigers, not cats and dogs'. In other words, right from the time of ancient rome till date, people want to see the unusual, the strange, the beasts etc for entertainment (not the ordinary / mediocrity). So think words like beasts, titans, monsters.

'The huge guy going against the small guy'  scenario can also be interpreted as the organisation (such as the WWE) building up personalities / characters. If you have a guy like Batista and another guy like the Big show, you wouldnt think it any different if the two of them fought against each other in their debut matches - since the audience and the followers wouldnt know about them any better.

Instead, you get them to go against smaller, weaker guys for 2 reasons - 1) to show their dominant / overpowering skills (such as moves, strength etc) and establish their prowess, and 2) so that the audience would get more and more hungry to see them take on a more worthy opponent. And THEN you hold an event like Wrestlemania where the best go against the best. And I dont have to tell you how much attention/interest the bigger events draw.

Incidentally, I think that that is why the PDI will fail unless the best bodybuilders go join it (which they wont). I dont have to point out the obvious difference in the interests generated by Mr. Olympia Vs a third-tier show like the Ironman. I am NOT putting down the ironman, its just that everyone wants to see the best physiques go up against one another and that only happens in the olympia. The shows like NOC are just a warm up to the MR O, just like the big guy-little guy fight is a warm up for wrestlemania.

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Re: Wrestlers new look.
« Reply #31 on: April 04, 2006, 01:49:05 PM »
 BayGBM cracks me up, he thinks everything is gay. ;D

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Re: Wrestlers new look.
« Reply #32 on: April 04, 2006, 01:50:38 PM »
BayGBM cracks me up, he thinks everything is gay. ;D
actually he's probably right on the money about "wrestling".
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« Reply #33 on: April 04, 2006, 01:52:25 PM »
actually he's probably right on the money about "wrestling".

 You would know, wouldn't you ;D Of course, we all "expirement" when we are younger, I am sure it was just a phase :)

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Re: Wrestlers new look.
« Reply #34 on: April 04, 2006, 01:52:36 PM »
I think Bay hit a nerve and your all queers hahahahaha

'nuff said.

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Re: Wrestlers new look.
« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2006, 01:57:02 PM »
Seriously guys, wrestling is kids shit and gay to boot. If your past 14 you should realize that you only watched wrestling to be those guys. Grow up homo's!
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Re: Wrestlers new look.
« Reply #36 on: April 04, 2006, 01:58:03 PM »
'nuff said.

What a queer response ;D. I was just representing 'my side' i.e the straight side ;)

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Re: Wrestlers new look.
« Reply #37 on: April 04, 2006, 02:22:38 PM »
You dance with the devi, eventually you pay the price.  And You know what I mean . . . don't ask me to spell it out.  :(

Could you possibly be implying that Angle is in fact gay, and that his lack of mass and bodyfat in the arms (lypodystrophy?) and general emaciated appearance are perhaps due to the effects of HIV and / or the drugs used to treat the disease? Or am I off base here?
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Re: Wrestlers new look.
« Reply #38 on: April 04, 2006, 02:43:11 PM »
HHH has been quoted as sayin that it takes too much of a toll on his body stayin in year-round lean condition (i.e. the condition he showed up in after returning from his thigh tear a few years back) and that a bodyweight of 265lbs (although less cut) helps his joints and is easier to maintain with a schedule of 330+ days on the road each year. 


Kurt Angle has also stated that his arms don't grow like his back and thighs...that they've always been a problem for him.  Year to year, Angle's shape and weight fluctuates....right now he looks too thin, but he's faster than he's ever been.


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Re: Wrestlers new look.
« Reply #39 on: April 04, 2006, 02:44:39 PM »
Could you possibly be implying that Angle is in fact gay, and that his lack of mass and bodyfat in the arms (lypodystrophy?) and general emaciated appearance are perhaps due to the effects of HIV and / or the drugs used to treat the disease? Or am I off base here?

 According to BayGBM, everyone is gay, so I would not be surprised if he is saying that. ::)

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« Reply #40 on: April 04, 2006, 05:18:12 PM »
According to BayGBM, everyone is gay, so I would not be surprised if he is saying that. ::)

I once had a horrible nightmare er... ah... dream that everyone around me was a gay male. There were no females or heteros anywhere around... :o
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Re: Wrestlers new look.
« Reply #41 on: April 04, 2006, 05:22:27 PM »
Pro Wrestling is not real?

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« Reply #42 on: April 04, 2006, 06:29:02 PM »
I once had a horrible nightmare er... ah... dream that everyone around me was a gay male. There were no females or heteros anywhere around... :o

 Did you succumb to teh gh3y?

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« Reply #43 on: April 04, 2006, 07:05:29 PM »
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« Reply #44 on: April 04, 2006, 07:36:29 PM »
Holy shit is that picture of Angle real hahahahaha
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« Reply #45 on: April 05, 2006, 04:01:35 AM »
I think this thread proves BayGBM is a bunch of hot air.
No proof of anyone being gay, no reply. :)

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Re: Wrestlers new look.
« Reply #46 on: April 05, 2006, 04:23:42 AM »
wrestlemania 22, net in just ppv around the world alone had 35 million buyers at 50$ a pop.  1.75 billion dollars for 4 hours work (thats production time not pre or post).  to the people that say mcmahon put his life on the line for nothing, thats no totally true.  i agree he does go above & beyond so does his son but he knows that day is his biggest pay day of the year, maybe he, like all wrestlers feel they owe it to the fans to put on a good show.  they do.

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Re: Wrestlers new look.
« Reply #47 on: April 05, 2006, 05:22:38 AM »
I think this thread proves BayGBM is a bunch of hot air.
No proof of anyone being gay, no reply. :)

Now, what possible incentive would have I have out anyone?  More than 10 different guys on this board who regularly post here have “come out” to me in either private messages or email.  They feel comfortable doing so because I have a track record of discretion.  Even one of the homophobes here has come out to me. ;)

When I lived in New England, I dated a guy in Connecticut who dated a WWE wrestler.  Through him I met that wrestler and a number of other gay wrestlers.  When I lived in California, I dated a few actors you would certainly know by name or sight.  Again, through them I met a number of other well known personalities.  Some people get a thrill from outing those in the closet; I am not one of those people.  I respect the fact that for a variety of reasons, not everyone can be public about their sexual orientation.  If I start outing people, I get kicked out of the gay mafia and that would be shooting myself in the foot.

Now, if someone has a publicly available website identifying themselves as an escort bi, or gay, I have no qualms about directing people to that site or mentioning what I saw on the site even if that site is no longer in operation. Similarly, if a guy is dead, I have no hesitation telling the truth about what I know.  I have no problem stating the obvious, or repeating what someone has said about himself publicly.  People can judge the veracity of my comments by the history of my posts.

I know you want names so here's a bone for you:  I won’t call him gay, since many of you seem to have trouble understanding what that word really means, but Kerry Von Eric routinely had relationships with men.

I never had the chance to play with him as he was dating someone I knew when I met him.  :(

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Re: Wrestlers new look.
« Reply #48 on: April 05, 2006, 05:33:30 AM »
Who the fuck is Kerry Von Eric? Never heard of him.
You're beyond pathetic. Nobody has "come out" to you in a PM, stop making up shit. Give proof or stop this frivolous bullshit.

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Re: Wrestlers new look.
« Reply #49 on: April 05, 2006, 06:20:49 AM »
Who the f**k is Kerry Von Eric? Never heard of him.


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