That's the first time I've ever heard anyone (John) mention Torbugesic (aside from me). Torbugesic is what I figured out would work when the production of Nubian ended. Then I figured out a taper using Temgesic (which john also mentions as "Stadol", which was the American version, usually prescribed for migraines... Esp the nasal spray version......... Stadol/Temgesic's chemical is buprenorphine which was approved for trials and began to be prescribed for heroin/oxy/opiate addiction/withdrawal in '03/04, 2 yrs after I figured it would work for Nubian withdrawal haha. I should be patented it. Lol)...
Anyways, John also mentioned Paul Demayo and said he started with Nubian and went to heroin... Which isn't true. Paul started with percocet, went off when he got locked up, & got on Nubian when he got out. This is from Paul himself when I spoke with him shortly before he passed. Talked specifically about painkiller addiction. At the time he said he was clean and I'd been clean for an while but was still dealing with insomnia and anxiety. He was dead soon after from that new England heroin.
Interesting post. I think the whole opiates thing seems much more tightly policed in the UK. People (apparently) tend to jump straight to heroin as all of these things like Percs and Oxys are things that I've personally never seen as available/prescribed - limited sample I know!
I guess I'm lucky in that I've tried all sorts of things in my time, but I don't think I have a particularly addictive personality. That need to 'search out' something when it's run out was just never there for me. No judgement implied.
And your comment in another post about living in Mexico is interesting - given the sort of violent stuff that I glean by osmosis from things people post on here (torture threads). Scary business.
ps - I resisted the urge to make a joke about '
Nubian withdrawal', though there are many possibilities
