esfitness hires a hitman...

[Explorerspl]

i am not talking about pumping kids out for welfare... it is normal to raise 2-3 kids if you are financially stable, healthy and with attractive wife.

people like be there and their selfishness are part of the reason UK is overrun by pakis and arabs over the last decades.

I like how we are on a bodybuilder forum talking about what normal people do lmao

They don't shove needles in themselves and debate about men in thongs

[Conker]

it was a store, poor woman was terrified after he was brandishing a gun around
guy wasnt even strung out on drugs, totally sober, real hard man....

any idea how much money was involved?

[CalvinH]

what did he rob a shop or a bank ?

any links?

The only thing he is robbing is this world of oxygen.

[Simple Simon]

any idea how much money was involved?

he didnt get anything his bottle went he left empty handed, he then had an armed siege with cops.

he holds up a store, folds when the female shop assistant fucked him off and he calls people on here beta bitches...

[Waller]

I like how we are on a bodybuilder forum talking about what normal people do lmao

They don't shove needles in themselves and debate about men in thongs

Then they do not know what is best in life.

[robcguns]

I like how we are on a bodybuilder forum talking about what normal people do lmao

They don't shove needles in themselves and debate about men in thongs

Hahhahahah

[BB]

what did he rob a shop or a bank ?

any links?

Don't think I'm blowing up any spots here, because it's been mentioned here lots before -

http://www.keloland.com/news/article/other/eric-hogie-sentenced .

[falco]

Just letting everyone know I'm still alive.

The Indio Assassin spared me for another day.

I was under the impression you chicken out of the gentlemen duel.

[Bulgarian_enforcer]

I like how we are on a bodybuilder forum talking about what normal people do lmao

They don't shove needles in themselves and debate about men in thongs

i do not debate about men in tongs, aas/hgh/training/nutrition are different subject.

[Dave D]

Was it ES who  once ripped out a German shepherd's spine?

[wes]

Guitar String Of Peace

[NelsonMuntz]

Was it ES who  once ripped out a German shepherd's spine?

I believe that was this fine male specimen suck my muscle

[HockeyFightFan]

I was under the impression you chicken out of the gentlemen duel.

Then your impression was 100% wrong.

[Simple Simon]

I might actually tolerate your punk ass if you actually use facts Jeffrey. Wasn't a woman. No gun was brandished. De pistolas holster. The guy was a bookie it was football season and he was in debt to the father and uncle of a "friend" of ESFitness owned a construction company a Payday Loan Center and check cashing businesses. That is also the same friend that was doing interviews live on TV outside during the standoff and who was later found out to be an informant ratted on his Mexican now ex-wife's Brothers and cousins in an exchange for a reduction in his Federal sentence 4 trafficking period the same friend who also stole the (legal) assault rifles from the trunk of ESFitness' car and attempted to also steal the car and about $7,000 and gold chains that belonged Tu es Fitness.

I cant make any sense of that at all, what meds are you taking at the moment?

Did you recant that in court in your defence?

[NelsonMuntz]

Honestly could care less about something a guy did 10 years ago and paid for with several years of his life plus retribution.

Yeah the guy fucked up when he was younger, he paid for it dearly.

I get the making fun of posts etc, but that stuff being brought up is hypocritical considering alot of the principles here have used pharmaceutical drugs while not under prescription. Maybe not the same as robbing the store but considering the shopkeeper "forgave' it tells me there is more to this story than meets the eye and that perhaps we should be giving Es the benefit of the doubt about what really happened.

Again hypocritical considering how many here have used/abused/dealt drugs themselves, some of which are in this thread. probably a few wife beaters and sexual devients as well in this thread with an undercover past lifestyle

Make fun of the guy, he asks for it, but I feel that link should be deleted, more than 10 years old

[BB]

Honestly could care less about something a guy did 10 years ago and paid for with several years of his life plus retribution.

Yeah the guy fucked up when he was younger, he paid for it dearly.


Make fun of the guy, he asks for it, but I feel that link should be deleted, more than 10 years old

I'll pull if it bothers him, I just don't consider it a big deal, because I think most old timers know the story, and I don't think he ever had a problem talking about it.

[Zillotch]

Due to his unfortunate intellect, which he had no say in, ESFitness is practically an innocent... he does not appear to be a bad guy.

[Dave D]

I might actually tolerate your punk ass if you actually use facts Jeffrey. Wasn't a woman. No gun was brandished. De pistolas holster. The guy was a bookie it was football season and he was in debt to the father and uncle of a "friend" of ESFitness owned a construction company a Payday Loan Center and check cashing businesses. That is also the same friend that was doing interviews live on TV outside during the standoff and who was later found out to be an informant ratted on his Mexican now ex-wife's Brothers and cousins in an exchange for a reduction in his Federal sentence 4 trafficking period the same friend who also stole the (legal) assault rifles from the trunk of ESFitness' car and attempted to also steal the car and about $7,000 and gold chains that belonged Tu es Fitness.

You had $7000 worth of jewellery but robbed a store for $700 In cash? Am I reading this right?

Why did you rob the store?

[The Ugly]

You realize me mentioning any of that would amount to me snitching on 2 people directly and others indirectly? Idiot.

That's kind of a big deal, huh. With jail toughs, I mean. Snitching and whatnot, they seem to disapprove.

[NelsonMuntz]

I'll pull if it bothers him, I just don't consider it a big deal, because I think most old timers know the story, and I don't think he ever had a problem talking about it.

true most of us know, and I appreciate the response. It's less about me, I just wonder if he is ok with it. Not trying to white knight or anything, just feel we all have our pasts(maybe not on that level for most) and I don't want to throw rocks from my glass house and would caution others to not do it from their's 

[Dave D]

true most of us know, and I appreciate the response. It's less about me, I just wonder if he is ok with it. Not trying to white knight or anything, just feel we all have our pasts(maybe not on that level for most) and I don't want to throw rocks from my glass house and would caution others to not do it from their's 

What's fair game here? 

Groinks jail photos?  Goodrum's Ex-lovers Facebook posts? Matt Canning promoting shows he's not doing? PJ Brauns divorce? Coach and his sons college scholarship?

If ES told the story and he's called on it how is it different than suckmymuscle being exposed, or UKJeff/Be There or BigMC having pics posted, or wiggs  being attacked continually?

ESFitness is the one who's lived an exciting life with stories that rival onlyme and stuntmovie. He has shared his information. No different than Vince Basil or countless orhers.

I get it if you want to be anonymous, that is fine and should be respected but if you put your information out for everyone you lose the anonymity.

ES what say you?

[Conker]

You had $7000 worth of jewellery but robbed a store for $700 In cash? Am I reading this right?

Why did you rob the store?

sounds like the sort of high risk/low reward crime committed in two circumstances

a) a strung out junkie who is out of their mind and has no clue what they're doing
b) someone who has run up a debt with a drug dealer(or similar) and has decided to take desperate measures to avoid a beating.

that's a crime committed by a desperate man rather than that of an organised criminal.

 

[Dave D]

sounds like the sort of high risk/low reward crime committed in two circumstances

a) a strung out junkie who is out of their mind and has no clue what they're doing
b) someone who has run up a debt with a drug dealer(or similar) and has decided to take desperate measures to avoid a beating.

that's a crime committed by a desperate man rather than that of an organised criminal.

 

No doubt,  but it's been my experience people in this situation don't have anything  of value and that's why they make drastic decisions. 

I couldn't really follow what he was saying. I'm trying to figure out if his stories are real or he's just a relentless troll.

[Simple Simon]

You realize me mentioning any of that would amount to me snitching on 2 people directly and others indirectly? Idiot.

You even manage to make sticking up a connivence store sound like you are some kind of avenging angel righting the worlds wrongs.

[Conker]

Wasnt supposed to be a robbery.

Someone mentioned it seemed like high risk low reward... It shouldve been zero risk, seeing as how the fella was a bookmaker.

Had an armed guard card, CC permit, recently obtained C&R license and a trunk full of surplus rifles/assualt rifles, & was on the way to iowa to begin a position as an armes guard. Wasnt till tuesday evening that i learned of a warrant for robbery and aasumed it was a mistake and was due to begin the position the wednesday afternoon of the standoff.

Funny how grown men like to turn that into " a tweaker junkynstrung out looking for dope money". Dont use meth now. Didnt use meth then. Didnt use heroin till 2014 after i returned from cancun and didnt consider heroin till after dr started fucking with my Tramadol script which id been on for about a year. If im open about heroin (which ive been off for about 10days shy of a year), why wouldnt i admit to meth if id done it? Thing is, people like BeTjere/jeffery, chyyphilis,hockyfightboy,& sf's stories all change and are exaggerated the way little girls tell stories in grade school. Mine remain constant.

so if it was a debt collection (as i think you're saying) why did you plead guilty to armed robbery in court