Author Topic: I supported military action in Syria by Obama and do so now. So should you!  (Read 4069 times)

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Trump made a decision that should have been carried out in 2013/ 2014.  Obama was too weak to act.  

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Not everybody's as tough as you and Trump.

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Why?

Remember your stance when the muzzies next attack your country. It's on you.

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Trump made a decision that should have been carried out in 2013/ 2014.  Obama was too weak to act.  


Totally agree.

Have you heard the whining from Putin in the wake of the attack?

The rat needs to be put in its place.

Trump might be okay after all.

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Question TA is why? Why did you support it? What is so bad about Assad? He was fighting ISIS - which Trump claimed was founded by Obama / Hillary. Explain yourself.

Remember ISIS, a group that regularly beheads people or set them on fire alive in cages and then drop concrete loads on them??

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Totally agree.

Have you heard the whinig from Putin in the wake of the attack?

The rat needs to be put in its place.

Trump might be okay after all.
Are you fucking stupid! Putin is a great leader. Putin does not whine. He stays calm. The deep state is playing you for a fucking fool all over again. This agenda is driven by the military industrial complex. Many men in USA - especially white men - prefer Putin and wants someone like him as a leader in the West. The West needs politicians like him - desperately.

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Totally agree.

Have you heard the whinig from Putin in the wake of the attack?

The rat needs to be put in its place.

Trump might be okay after all.

What whining?
He has said barely anything.

He shot about 60% of your missiles down. Many of the rest landed right next to their obvious targets, like the three hits close to the airstrip.
He evacuated Syrian air force from the place.
He was monitoring the strike live. Knew exactly what was coming.



Remember this was first time ever someone with advanced means was monitoring your action live and taking counter measures.
And surprisingly this time it didn't look like Hollywood at all... hmmm.


Base is operational again and Assad has already continued operations  :D



You don't need 61 missiles against an airbase. USA knew Russia would shot most of them down. Saturation attack. Plus why not bomb with planes?
Compare to Russian strikes at US positions - aka getting-it-done:






American strike seen through Russian drone. Americans definitely didn't target the airstrip (which you always destroy first when attacking airbase)  ::)
You just decided to save the airstrip this time and hit the signal lamps next to it  ;D



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I am waiting for permission from Putin before I can support this action.

You know... like Trump did.  That's why he notified Russia first, before our own Congress of his pending military action against Syria.

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JUST IN JUST IN JUST IN JUST IN


OMG, USA backing off already!!?!?!
Hahaha, "ceasefire"... "work with Russia"..   I wonder what Putin has told them regarding his potential response  ;D

I call the fucking Putin to stay alarmed now or get lost. Hitler sucked it up to Russia too before stabbing in back. That's how rats act.
Trump might be genuine great guy but the establishment is rotten to bone.

USA emptied what they had in those vessels and needs time to re-group. They have no more disposable assets in the area readily available.
It takes about a week from Americans to prepare similar size salvo with programmed coordinates and routes, according to Russian MoD.
They are afraid to attack with fighter jets (which would be much more accurate and deadly than cruise missiles) at this point.
Hence they are now calling for de-escalation and "ceasefire".
I warn to fall for this.




Tillerson on Syria: The first priority is the defeat of ISIS

Tillerson went on to say that the administration remains hopeful of a solution to ending the civil war within Syria. Part of that solution, he said, includes bringing all the parties to the table to begin the process of political discussions.

“Clearly, that requires the participation of the regime with the support of their allies,” Tillerson said and added, “and we’re hopeful that Russia will choose to play a constructive role in supporting ceasefires through their own Astana talks, but also, ultimately, through Geneva.”


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tillerson-on-syria-the-first-priority-is-the-defeat-of-isis/


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Trump Secretary Of State Admits Syria Missile Strike Was A Bogus Charade

In that regard, we are hopeful that we can work with Russia and use their influence to achieve areas of stabilization throughout Syria and create the conditions for a political process through Geneva in which we can engage all of the parties on the way forward and it is through that political process that we believe the Syrian people will awfully be able to decide the fate of Bashar al-Assad.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/04/09/trump-secretary-state-admits-syria-missile-strike-bogus-charade.html


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Iranian Rouhani called Putin today.
Iran is not very developed but they have been big pain in the ass of US for ages. And Americans haven't attacked them despite all the tough talk. So they must be up to something. Definitely they have big role in Syria and notable asymmetric warfare means. 


Putin and Rouhani, in phone call, condemn U.S. aggression in Syria

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-iran-russia-idUSKBN17B0KV?il=0

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Out of topic:
Now that we know what 60 Tomahawk missiles can really do in small and undeveloped country like Syria, battered in 6 years of destructive war, I started to wonder how little muscle the mouthy brothers in Europe are huffing and puffing with.  

I read old news that in 2004 United Kingdom reached an agreement with USA to buy 64 Tomahawk missiles.
That's approximately what it takes to moderately damage an airbase in Syria, as we have recently learned.
And UK is considered to be strongest force in EU.


Of course UK has many more weapons systems but gives impression of what kind of punch we are dealing with.
I'm a little surprised, to be honest. They talk so much. Without USA's backing these guys are literally nothing. Couldn't wage a war against country like Syria on their own.

USA has allegedly even as much as 2000-4000 Tomahawks constantly on hand. With big production capability. That's huge.

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Out of topic:
Now that we know what 60 Tomahawk missiles can really do in small and undeveloped country like Syria, battered in 6 years of destructive war, I started to wonder how little muscle the mouthy brothers in Europe are huffing and puffing with.  

I read old news that in 2004 United Kingdom reached an agreement with USA to buy 64 Tomahawk missiles.
That's approximately what it takes to moderately damage an airbase in Syria, as we have recently learned.
And UK is considered to be strongest force in EU.


Of course UK has many more weapons systems but gives impression of what kind of punch we are dealing with.
I'm a little surprised, to be honest. They talk so much. Without USA's backing these guys are literally nothing. Couldn't wage a war against country like Syria on their own.

USA has allegedly even as much as 2000-4000 Tomahawks constantly on hand. With big production capability. That's huge.

Why don't they use those tomahawks on ISIS. Better yet, just stop funding them lol! Total dog and pony show. ISIS is a Western creation.

Now "Little Marco" claims ASSAD has to be removed before ISIS can be defeated. Really Marco??

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rubio-us-defeat-isis-syrias-assad-removed/story?id=46677615

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My opinion hasn't really changed: either pull out of the Middle East completely, or use our full force to eliminate the targeted threat.

Until our leaders can grasp the fact that Islam (the entire "religion") is the true threat to democracy, then we should be as isolationist as possible.

That's a pipedream though.

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My opinion hasn't really changed: either pull out of the Middle East completely, or use our full force to eliminate the targeted threat.

Until our leaders can grasp the fact that Islam (the entire "religion") is the true threat to democracy, then we should be as isolationist as possible.

That's a pipedream though.


No reason for all or nothing.  Battle it back when possible, keep it from spreading and take away all of their tools for serious warfare.  In time they will choke themselves out as long as they are not allowed to get too powerful.

Doing nothing would be a disaster.  A Thermonuclear theocracy is too dangerous to risk as is one with chemical weapons. 

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In time they will choke themselves out as long as they are not allowed to get too powerful.

Doing nothing would be a disaster.  A Thermonuclear theocracy is too dangerous to risk as is one with chemical weapons.
I am coming around to Trump having done the right thing. You cannot both complain about Obama being walked all over and then turn your back on Trump for doing the opposite. These dictators/Muslim scourges have grown in power from doing just that. Assad allies with Muslim trash too. He is no great fighter of Isis, etc.

We cannot completely isolate from the world or eventually we will be the minority but we also have to have our allies do their fair share as well.

Reagan "Peace through strength"

The hope is that our enemies have not grown too bold/strong from the last 8 years to the point where we cannot get back on track. If they have, it will be true war eventually.

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I support these animals killing each other off

The True Adonis

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I support these animals killing each other off
Sometimes a hand is needed to make that possible.

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Are you fucking stupid! Putin is a great leader. Putin does not whine. He stays calm. The deep state is playing you for a fucking fool all over again. This agenda is driven by the military industrial complex. Many men in USA - especially white men - prefer Putin and wants someone like him as a leader in the West. The West needs politicians like him - desperately.


Some man-crush you got there.

You really want Putin to rule your country?

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What whining?
He has said barely anything.

He shot about 60% of your missiles down. Many of the rest landed right next to their obvious targets, like the three hits close to the airstrip.
He evacuated Syrian air force from the place.
He was monitoring the strike live. Knew exactly what was coming.



Remember this was first time ever someone with advanced means was monitoring your action live and taking counter measures.
And surprisingly this time it didn't look like Hollywood at all... hmmm.


Base is operational again and Assad has already continued operations  :D



You don't need 61 missiles against an airbase. USA knew Russia would shot most of them down. Saturation attack. Plus why not bomb with planes?
Compare to Russian strikes at US positions - aka getting-it-done:






American strike seen through Russian drone. Americans definitely didn't target the airstrip (which you always destroy first when attacking airbase)  ::)
You just decided to save the airstrip this time and hit the signal lamps next to it  ;D





He called for an emergency UN meeting, claiming it was an attack on a foreign nation bla, bla...

The man is still in war in the Ukraine, supports Assad and his chemical warfare etc.

Pure whining.

That said id take Putin and Assad over Islam any day so its complicated.

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Trump made a decision that should have been carried out in 2013/ 2014.  Obama was too weak to act.  



Obama ordered 47 Tomahawks fired at Syria at the time but honestly, I think that the whole thing is shit if you ask me.
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Syria is evil.  Even Hitler didn't use chemical weapons or gas anyone.   LOL   :D

Spicer is bound and determined to outdo Kellyanne in the WTF Was That? comment department.

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Trump made a decision that should have been carried out in 2013/ 2014.  Obama was too weak to act.  
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Obama put together a plan and asked Congress for approval and they were such cowards they wouldn't even bring it up for a vote

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/01/world/middleeast/syria.html

Fact is that Trump had no legal authority to bomb Syria, no matter how much he was disturbed by photos of the dead babies

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Obama put together a plan and asked Congress for approval and they were such cowards they wouldn't even bring it up for a vote

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/01/world/middleeast/syria.html

Fact is that Trump had no legal authority to bomb Syria, no matter how much he was disturbed by photos of the dead babies
So Bill Clinton can do it without Congress but not Trump according to Democrats.  Right.   ::)

You people have gotten pathetic.

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Obama put together a plan and asked Congress for approval and they were such cowards they wouldn't even bring it up for a vote

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/01/world/middleeast/syria.html

Fact is that Trump had no legal authority to bomb Syria, no matter how much he was disturbed by photos of the dead babies
Or what about this Captain Delusion  ::):

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/27/congress-still-not-specifically-authorizing-islami/

Obama launches 2,800 strikes on Iraq, Syria without congressional approval

Nearly 3,000 strikes in Iraq and Syria to date

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Obama put together a plan and asked Congress for approval and they were such cowards they wouldn't even bring it up for a vote

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/01/world/middleeast/syria.html

Fact is that Trump had no legal authority to bomb Syria, no matter how much he was disturbed by photos of the dead babies


Obama the gag and fag didn't have a plan.  He had excuses and a dress he hid behind.