United Airlines Overbooks Flights - and Beats up a Paying Passenger

[Coach is Back!]

[Nails]

wtf s up with the youtube button


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNjjK8SNaDI

[kh300]

Boycotting an airline won't work so well. Times and destinations are shared by the airlines so having your pick isn't usually an option. 

[pellius]

#Not all Europeans

Yes, of course you are right and I thought I made that clear.

[pellius]

X2

His situation is no different than if a person paid for a hotel room, checked in, unpacked, and went to bed.  Then, the hotel staff comes and knocks on the door and says, "Sorry sir, but we've got some employees who need a room for the night.  You have been randomly selected to give up your room.  Please pack your shit and GTFO!"  My response who be, "Tell your employees to fuck off and find another hotel, I've already paid for this room, and I've got an early meeting in the morning!"

Excellent example!

[Kwon]

Boycotting an airline won't work so well. Times and destinations are shared by the airlines so having your pick isn't usually an option.  

Better boycott an airline than a hairline.

[Rudee]

His situation is no different than if a person paid for a hotel room, checked in, unpacked, and went to bed.  Then, the hotel staff comes and knocks on the door and says, "Sorry sir, but we've got some employees who need a room for the night.  You have been randomly selected to give up your room.  Please pack your shit and GTFO!"  My response who be, "Tell your employees to fuck off and find another hotel, I've already paid for this room, and I've got an early meeting in the morning!"

It is different.  Nowhere in a hotel agreement does it state you can be involuntarily bumped from your room.   On an airline it's stated in the agreement that as a passenger, you may be subject to it.

[Bindare_Dundat]

The CEO decided, after probably his stock investors and PR firm told him how pathetic he was, to basically agree to everything that the public was saying.  Apologies, they were wrong, it will never happen again, and then went and blamed the first line supervisor on this. Really, then that person should be FIRED. Retrained.  Problem it isnt just the supervisior - it is also a lot of their staff that just don't care and are arrogant. That needs to stop.

By the way, the CEO knows it is going to cost them a ton of money.

You know, hopefully one day, the CEO will get a taste of his own medicine.

Let him go to a hotel, get into the room, and then let them knock at the door once he is settled in, and tell him they need the room for an employee, and kick him out forcefully. Total bullshit.

wah wah

the tragedy of first world problems.

the pussies in this place is something else.  

[Bindare_Dundat]

It is different.  Nowhere in a hotel agreement does it state you can be involuntarily bumped from your room.   On an airline it's stated in the agreement that as a passenger, you may be subject to it.

you're right. it's totally different.  what a stupid comparison.

[Kwon]

They should've just kept upping the price until someone volunteered. Shit, even if it was $10,000 in vouchers it would be negligible compared to this.

That's why I fly Delta, my United experience has always been soso. I have three kids and flew with them and my wife business class to Europe (que Calvin to make a remark about how I'm subtly mentioning money in a thread   ). My little one was under two, and even though I paid for his seat, he still sat on our laps. It was just easier once we were on the plane, and anyone with a kid would understand what I mean. Anyway, on the way back from France, the stewardess told me that he had to return to his seat. I'm say, "he's under two and there's another baby on the parents lap over there, plus I paid for his seat". She told me that they couldn't have an empty seat on the plane while there were people on standby. I told her that was fine, she could have the seat, but I wanted my $3,200 back that I paid for it. She told me that wasn't their policy. I asked if she was selling the seat to the person on standby, and she said yes, in a round about way. I told her that wasn't going to happen. They then had to get a manager to speak to us and when I explained again, that if they wanted the seat they would have to comp me for it, and she told me she had to speak with the pilot. About three minutes later when we started pushing back, I realized I had got my way. I've never had issues like that on Delta or Lufthansa but the two times I've flown United/Continental I've had a bad experience with their customer service.

[illuminati]

The CEO decided, after probably his stock investors and PR firm told him how pathetic he was, to basically agree to everything that the public was saying.  Apologies, they were wrong, it will never happen again, and then went and blamed the first line supervisor on this. Really, then that person should be FIRED. Retrained.  Problem it isnt just the supervisior - it is also a lot of their staff that just don't care and are arrogant. That needs to stop.

By the way, the CEO knows it is going to cost them a ton of money.

You know, hopefully one day, the CEO will get a taste of his own medicine.

Let him go to a hotel, get into the room, and then let them knock at the door once he is settled in, and tell him they need the room for an employee, and kick him out forcefully. Total bullshit.

Agreed I'm with Ron on this one.

Especially--
"By the way, the CEO knows it is going to cost them a ton of money.
You know, hopefully one day, the CEO will get a taste of his own medicine.
Let him go to a hotel, get into the room, and then let them knock at the door once he is settled in, and tell him they need the room for an employee, and kick him out forcefully. Total bullshit."

Now that would be hilarious poetic justice.

Wish he'd stay at a house of mine.
I'd kick him out at about 3.30am - I bet I'd hear the fucker whinge & whine then.
 

[Dave D]

It is different.  Nowhere in a hotel agreement does it state you can be involuntarily bumped from your room.   On an airline it's stated in the agreement that as a passenger, you may be subject to it.

It sounds like you know a lot about airline and hotel contracts. 

Are you involved in some elite level schomedom?

What can you tell me about rental cars?

[Bindare_Dundat]

and you are an even bigger pussy to be here

in that case, responding makes you the grand smelly pussy

[Kwon]

in that case, responding makes you the grand smelly pussy

No, that's me, since i'm quoting. (using the forums quote-function)

[Palumboism]

The United stock price is now less then 1/2 a percent lower then it was before the incident.  Also know as big fucking deal.

May, June, July, August, and September are busy months for air travel.  Most of those tickets probably haven't been bought yet.  The stock market thinks on a very short time horizon.  Wait for the real adjustment after the next two quarterly reports.  As you said, the company is in no risk of going under, but the same CEO may not be in place a year from now.  

[Tapeworm]

wtf s up with the youtube button


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNjjK8SNaDI

Seems to be ok for others but hasn't worked for me in months.  Looks like I'll have to schedule another conference with Ron 'Ear, Nose, and Throat Man' Avidan in his limo in the alley.  

Hope you've had your tonsils out.

[Nails]

United just isued a full refund to every passager on that flight

[Kwon]

Arrive as a Doctor, Leave as a Patient

[Tapeworm]

United just isued a full refund to every passager on that flight

Just trying to head off the 'emotional distress' cases at the legal pass.  Well I've lost 12% of my usual enjoyment of masturbating to skycunt porn ever since witnessing the events of that fateful day.  Where's my fookin money?

[Ron]

Wow - it just gets better with these idiots - now they are offering refunds to EVERYONE on that flight because of their stupidity.

"United Airlines struggled on Wednesday to respond to a third day of public outrage over widely shared videos of a passenger being dragged off an airplane, offering a refund to every passenger on the flight and promising to no longer have the police remove passengers from planes that are too full".

Also, the other two officers now are also being placed on 'administrative leave' from the Chicago Department of Aviation.

"On Wednesday, lawyers for Dr. Dao asked an Illinois court to order United to preserve surveillance footage, a cockpit voice recording and other information related to the flight, and they announced a news conference with a daughter of Dr. Dao would take place Thursday morning in Chicago"


Also, more stories of United's pathetic employees...

http://www.latimes.com/business/lazarus/la-fi-lazarus-united-low-priority-passenger-20170412-story.html

[Ron]

Wow - even other airlines are going after United.

[Twaddle]

It is different.  Nowhere in a hotel agreement does it state you can be involuntarily bumped from your room.   On an airline it's stated in the agreement that as a passenger, you may be subject to it.

False.  UA's contract states that they can deny a passenger from boarding the plane if it is overbooked.  The denial would occur at the gates when the person is trying to board the flight.  This man had already boarded the flight, stowed his luggage, and was seated.  UA fucked up on this one, and they are going to get sued.   

[Simple Simon]

False.  UA's contract states that they can deny a passenger from boarding the plane if it is overbooked.  The denial would occur at the gates when the person is trying to board the flight.  This man had already boarded the flight, stowed his luggage, and was seated.  UA fucked up on this one, and they are going to get sued.   

lets get this right, you believe one person can singlehandedly scupper an entire flight because he doesnt want to get off a plane when asked?

Seriously?

Federal law allows Airlines to "bump" passengers if they are overbooked.

[Nails]

 

[Skorp1o]

I don't understand the legal rational of some Getbiggers who think the airline is in the right.

He effectively entered into a contractual acgreement with the airline for a service, he pays money, so they get him from A to B. Unless there's a tangible reason to remove him I.e. Safety reasons they had no right to remove him. He was sitting down quietly did not assault anyone and even when he was man handled he only tried to cling on to his seat from what I can see.

The error of overbooking was a poor logistical management on the part of the airline and their own failure 100%...hence it is fully responsible for this and punishing a passenger for their own error will not go down well in a court of law which weighs on cases based on the principle of fairness. To me this screams pure arrogance and disregard towards its own clients.