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Pain free....finally!!!
« on: May 03, 2017, 09:27:56 PM »
It's been over a year since I blew both of shoulders out while getting ready for a PL meet. For three weeks I couldn't sleep, had a hard time raising my arms overhead and basically my biceps tendons (both) were screwed with one completely out of its groove, pain for at least 5 months was a consistent 8 on a 1-10. I've done some bench since but mostly BB stuff never going over 185 for about 5 but haven't benched in about months. Before I blew out my shoulders I was consistently benching 425 and on a good day 445 with a best of 465. I just turned 53 then.

Today might have changed things. I was messing around demonstrating correct bench technique to my kids. I felt ZERO pain at 155 where I would normally feel pain, kicked it up to 185 for 5 zero pain, 225 for 5 zero pain, 275 for 5 that went up as easy as the 225 again, zero pain. I didn't test the waters after that but 315 would have been easy, 365 for a single without a doubt. I turn 55 in August....new goal is 365 at least on my birthday.

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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2017, 09:32:59 PM »
Did you ever go to the doctor or physical therapist for this?

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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2017, 09:37:21 PM »
Did you ever go to the doctor or physical therapist for this?

Yes. It sucked

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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2017, 09:38:26 PM »
Yes. It sucked

What was the diagnosis and treatment?

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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2017, 09:46:08 PM »
I would avoid bench press forever
Just use machines and dumbells mate.

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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2017, 09:51:02 PM »
What was the diagnosis and treatment?

G1 tears in both biceps tendons. Non surgical. The usual. Rest. Anti-inflammatories, etc We have a Physical Therapist on staff that would push the tendon back in the groove when it slipped out.

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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2017, 09:51:53 PM »
I would avoid bench press forever
Just use machines and dumbells mate.

I fucked them (both) up using the Hammer Strength incline machine

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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2017, 10:05:32 PM »
G1 tears in both biceps tendons. Non surgical. The usual. Rest. Anti-inflammatories, etc We have a Physical Therapist on staff that would push the tendon back in the groove when it slipped out.

I have seen those tear at powerlifting meets and it is nasty to say the least. A buddy of mine was pulling 700 in the 220's and it just snapped and rolled up.  I know you have come across this too so be careful.

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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2017, 10:14:03 PM »
I have seen those tear at powerlifting meets and it is nasty to say the least. A buddy of mine was pulling 700 in the 220's and it just snapped and rolled up.  I know you have come across this too so be careful.


For whatever reason I can't deadlift worth a shit, I actually hate deadlifting but bench/squat have are my strong points.

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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2017, 10:32:07 PM »
thats great news!! took me over 9 months after injuring my shoulder to get back to bench pressing pain free. I hope your doing a lot of warm up sets as you start back up the benching. I do  8 warm up sets each time, for bench or incline bench. really gets the blood flowing before
I hit my 4 heavy sets.  just turned 60, hitting 315 for 10  :) :) :) :)

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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2017, 10:38:10 PM »
After 14 months of shoulder injury pain, never going over 135 for more than 3 reps, today I was somehow able to easily bench 302 for 17 reps.  It must be the alignment of Niburu and Big Hammy.

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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2017, 01:21:19 AM »
It's been over a year since I blew both of shoulders out while getting ready for a PL meet. For three weeks I couldn't sleep, had a hard time raising my arms overhead and basically my biceps tendons (both) were screwed with one completely out of its groove, pain for at least 5 months was a consistent 8 on a 1-10. I've done some bench since but mostly BB stuff never going over 185 for about 5 but haven't benched in about months. Before I blew out my shoulders I was consistently benching 425 and on a good day 445 with a best of 465. I just turned 53 then.

Today might have changed things. I was messing around demonstrating correct bench technique to my kids. I felt ZERO pain at 155 where I would normally feel pain, kicked it up to 185 for 5 zero pain, 225 for 5 zero pain, 275 for 5 that went up as easy as the 225 again, zero pain. I didn't test the waters after that but 315 would have been easy, 365 for a single without a doubt. I turn 55 in August....new goal is 365 at least on my birthday.

Your body is telling you something. As I crossed over 40, the explosive movements stopped. No dynamic days with the lighter weights either. These days it is 6-10 reps, 3 up, 3 down. Full control. Don't care at all about the weight used. Too many older guys in the gym quitting due to injuries. Good luck with the recovery.

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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2017, 02:42:16 AM »
as a ''personal trainer'' you should know better

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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2017, 03:05:23 AM »
    Had to stop bench pressing 10 years ago. Turned to dumbells. Worked for 6-7 years, palms facing eachother.
    Now i can only do reverse bench pressing. Once you sort it's mechanics it feels great, and totally removes delt/rotator cuff stress. You start feelling some bicep tension though.

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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2017, 03:41:19 AM »
I haven`t trained in months due to a shoulder injury......it`s just now starting to feel better so I`ll be back in the gym soon.

Congrats Joe............we need to go a bit lighter as we get older.  ;)

I hurt mine doing 3 X 3 on inclines......I dropped benching years ago.

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« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2017, 04:32:27 AM »
Yes. It sucked

You see, Obama cares

I fucked them (both) up using the Hammer Strength incline machine

I find that hard to believe, maybe your seat was too low?

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« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2017, 04:37:42 AM »
Congrats coach! You finally got that sand out of your vagina after 53 years  ;D
 Seriously though, glad your doing well and I hope you stay pain free.

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« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2017, 04:41:46 AM »
You see, Obama cares

I find that hard to believe, maybe your seat was too low?

its coach that isn't high enough.

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« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2017, 04:57:11 AM »
its coach that isn't high enough.

Dang :D

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« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2017, 07:58:00 AM »
I haven`t trained in months due to being lazy a shoulder injury......it`s just now starting to feel better so I`ll be back in the gym soon in a couple of years.

Congrats Joe............we need to go a bit lighter as we get older.  ;)

I hurt mine doing 3 X 3 on inclines......I dropped benching years ago.

Fixed.

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« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2017, 08:25:55 AM »
You see, Obama cares

I find that hard to believe, maybe your seat was too low?

I know how to position a seat. The starting point on a Hammer Strength is jamming yourself in where your hands are a little below your chest starting the movement at the bottom. It's fucks with shoulders. At least mine

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« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2017, 08:53:00 AM »
Now if you could just do something about your brain.

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Re: Pain free....finally!!!
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2017, 09:52:18 AM »
I know how to position a seat. The starting point on a Hammer Strength is jamming yourself in where your hands are a little below your chest starting the movement at the bottom. It's fucks with shoulders. At least mine

I feel you on the HS incline.  I think the movement itself once out of the bottom of the rep is a good solid range of motion that contracts my chest; although, the initial movement when you're jammed into the low position messes with my shoulders (as you noted).  The ideal situation would be a foot lever that allows you to push the weight forward to start or a better design in the handles that allows you to bring them forwards or backwards.  Maybe a fixed yet moveable pin in each handle that slips in and out of a hole/groove that allows you to customize and lock the start position in place.  The fixed setting has caused me injury before.  I can easily press 10+ plates for reps on HS incline, but getting out of that rock bottom portion of the rep....it's 50/50 sometimes LOL.  Only thing I can do to remedy the situation is a get a spotter to help get the weight beyond my chest so I can start the movement if I'm not feeling comfortable that day.

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« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2017, 10:11:32 AM »
I blew both of shoulders out while getting ready for a PL meet.

lol

I was messing around demonstrating correct bench technique to my kids.

lol

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« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2017, 10:38:19 AM »
I feel you on the HS incline.  I think the movement itself once out of the bottom of the rep is a good solid range of motion that contracts my chest; although, the initial movement when you're jammed into the low position messes with my shoulders (as you noted).  The ideal situation would be a foot lever that allows you to push the weight forward to start or a better design in the handles that allows you to bring them forwards or backwards.  Maybe a fixed yet moveable pin in each handle that slips in and out of a hole/groove that allows you to customize and lock the start position in place.  The fixed setting has caused me injury before.  I can easily press 10+ plates for reps on HS incline, but getting out of that rock bottom portion of the rep....it's 50/50 sometimes LOL.  Only thing I can do to remedy the situation is a get a spotter to help get the weight beyond my chest so I can start the movement if I'm not feeling comfortable that day.

This^^^

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