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Republicans are WORTHLESS when it comes to Healthcare
« on: May 05, 2017, 02:05:03 PM »
Just as worthless as the Democrats, maybe even moreso given their recent proposals.  Leave the middle man in charge to deny, deny, deny and profit off of human suffering.

What a joke.

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Re: Republicans are WORTHLESS when it comes to Healthcare
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2017, 02:17:50 PM »
TA, have you ever thought about truly getting involved in politics, other than posting random links on getbig?

Maybe run for some local office, then move up.
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Re: Republicans are WORTHLESS when it comes to Healthcare
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2017, 02:28:20 PM »
TA, have you ever thought about truly getting involved in politics, other than posting random links on getbig?

Maybe run for some local office, then move up.
My campaign slogan would be "I Hate Stupid People" and on the bottom would be "Which is pretty much everyone".

So I would not win anything.

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Re: Republicans are WORTHLESS when it comes to Healthcare
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2017, 02:40:24 PM »
My campaign slogan would be "I Hate Stupid People" and on the bottom would be "Which is pretty much everyone".

So I would not win anything.

You should hire Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HHP, CEO, as your campaign manager.
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Re: Republicans are WORTHLESS when it comes to Healthcare
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2017, 02:46:28 PM »
 ;D ;D

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Re: Republicans are WORTHLESS when it comes to Healthcare
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2017, 02:55:09 PM »
The only people that like Obama care are the millions who were suddenly eligible for medicaid that previously weren't.  Middle class working families are being forced to buy insurance that costs more than their monthly mortgage bill for insurance they can't use because of the high deductible. Tired of the close to 30 million newly eligible for (welfare insurance) called medicaid. Premiums are rising at an incredible rate. Insurance companies are dropping out in droves because they can't turn a profit. Soon there is a rising rate of fines as time goes on for people who don't get insurance.  Imagine your whole tax return not coming because you didn't pay for outrageously priced insurance?  People lost their doctors who didn't participate in the new Obama care plan they were forced to buy. Others on average saw their premium go up 5K  a year. The architect of Obama care is even caught on tape saying people will go for Obama care because they are stupid. How did we manage before Obama? It was a hell of a lot better situation than we are in now with Obamacare.

The new bill will eliminate the mandate that everyone has to buy insurance. That's a start. It will limit the welfare Medicaid back to the old standards. No medicaid isn't free. Someone has to pay that bill and it's the dwindling ranks of the American workers taxes. Estimated costs of Obama care is one Trillion dollars. The is a bill that America can't pay.

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Re: Republicans are WORTHLESS when it comes to Healthcare
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2017, 03:38:09 PM »
The only people that like Obama care are the millions who were suddenly eligible for medicaid that previously weren't.  Middle class working families are being forced to buy insurance that costs more than their monthly mortgage bill for insurance they can't use because of the high deductible. Tired of the close to 30 million newly eligible for (welfare insurance) called medicaid. Premiums are rising at an incredible rate. Insurance companies are dropping out in droves because they can't turn a profit. Soon there is a rising rate of fines as time goes on for people who don't get insurance.  Imagine your whole tax return not coming because you didn't pay for outrageously priced insurance?  People lost their doctors who didn't participate in the new Obama care plan they were forced to buy. Others on average saw their premium go up 5K  a year. The architect of Obama care is even caught on tape saying people will go for Obama care because they are stupid. How did we manage before Obama? It was a hell of a lot better situation than we are in now with Obamacare.

The new bill will eliminate the mandate that everyone has to buy insurance. That's a start. It will limit the welfare Medicaid back to the old standards. No medicaid isn't free. Someone has to pay that bill and it's the dwindling ranks of the American workers taxes. Estimated costs of Obama care is one Trillion dollars. The is a bill that America can't pay.

the original proposed obamacare was actually a good plan that got chopped to bits until it passed. 

As for the Trillion, give me a fucking break.  They spend that yearly on military spending alone on shit.  This country hemorages money

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Re: Republicans are WORTHLESS when it comes to Healthcare
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2017, 03:47:39 PM »
My campaign slogan would be "I Hate Stupid People" and on the bottom would be "Which is pretty much everyone".

So I would not win anything.

Although I don't think pretty much everyone is stupid, I still think someone has zero chances in politics if they don't appeal to the masses.

I have the feeling most of them are atheist but you still hear them talk about religion all the time, even Trump does it.

The logic in some of their claims is messed up, but they will repeat them over and over again. Sometimes the really  believe they're right, sometimes they know they're wrong but won't admit it. As long as it sounds pretty, they will say it.

That's pretty much the definition of demagogy: replace what works for what sounds pretty.



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Re: Republicans are WORTHLESS when it comes to Healthcare
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2017, 03:55:55 PM »
I agree TA.

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Re: Republicans are WORTHLESS when it comes to Healthcare
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2017, 04:12:15 PM »
As an outsider looking in, your healthcare system is pretty shitty... How come "poor" euro countries can manage to provide a free at the point of entry health care, you must pay next to no tax or if you are, what does it go on?

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Re: Republicans are WORTHLESS when it comes to Healthcare
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2017, 04:42:28 PM »
Just as worthless as the Democrats, maybe even moreso given their recent proposals.  Leave the middle man in charge to deny, deny, deny and profit off of human suffering.

What a joke.

Could not agree more. I stated on here yesterday the need to get rid of the money making health industry and go single payer. Healthcare will never be affordable and people widely covered with the corporations lining their pockets.

Only thing that annoys me about national healthcare is when people call it "free"  ::)

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Re: Republicans are WORTHLESS when it comes to Healthcare
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2017, 04:50:22 PM »
As an outsider looking in, your healthcare system is pretty shitty... How come "poor" euro countries can manage to provide a free at the point of entry health care, you must pay next to no tax or if you are, what does it go on?

To the outsider, most of your nations set prices which we don't do. Even when your people are covered by private insurance companies, those companies pay rates that have been set by the government (e.g., Switzerland). In addition to the fact that we may be somewhat less healthy because of obesity and bad eating (although you tend to smoke more), our biggest problem is runaway provider prices. Our hospitals keep building fancier and fancier hospitals out into the most affluent suburbs and our doctors tend to live higher on the hog than yours do. In addition, we subsidize you to a certain extent. We pay extremely high drug prices while yours are capped by your governments. What that means is that we are funding world-wide research and development out of our pockets.

Our insurance companies try to negotiate down prices paid to our providers, but they are not very good at it.  Your governments set the prices, but we call that "socialism".

Obamacare at least has attempted to provide universal access to health care (based on the philosophy that health care coverage is more of a right than a privelege) but you can see from the comments above (e.g., on Medicaid) that Americans tend to have more of a sink or swim attitude than your countries do.  We expect people to fend more for themselves.

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Re: Republicans are WORTHLESS when it comes to Healthcare
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2017, 05:02:20 PM »
To the outsider, most of your nations set prices which we don't do. Even when your people are covered by private insurance companies, those companies pay rates that have been set by the government (e.g., Switzerland). In addition to the fact that we may be somewhat less healthy because of obesity and bad eating (although you tend to smoke more), our biggest problem is runaway provider prices. Our hospitals keep building fancier and fancier hospitals out into the most affluent suburbs and our doctors tend to live higher on the hog than yours do. In addition, we subsidize you to a certain extent. We pay extremely high drug prices while yours are capped by your governments. What that means is that we are funding world-wide research and development out of our pockets.

Our insurance companies try to negotiate down prices paid to our providers, but they are not very good at it.  Your governments set the prices, but we call that "socialism".

Obamacare at least has attempted to provide universal access to health care (based on the philosophy that health care coverage is more of a right than a privelege) but you can see from the comments above (e.g., on Medicaid) that Americans tend to have more of a sink or swim attitude than your countries do.  We expect people to fend more for themselves.
Great Post and assessment.  8)

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Re: Republicans are WORTHLESS when it comes to Healthcare
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2017, 05:06:51 PM »
My campaign slogan would be "I Hate Stupid People" and on the bottom would be "Which is pretty much everyone".

So I would not win anything.

this is my party


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Re: Republicans are WORTHLESS when it comes to Healthcare
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2017, 05:10:39 PM »
Republicans are worthless for most things. Hope this helps.

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Re: Republicans are WORTHLESS when it comes to Healthcare
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2017, 05:13:37 PM »
Republicans are worthless for most things. Hope this helps.

they are pretty good at running huge budget deficits and running up the national debt

Also pretty good at starting pointless wars

Also very good at lecturing everyone on family values while secretly cheating on their wives (often with men)


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Re: Republicans are WORTHLESS when it comes to Healthcare
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2017, 05:15:13 PM »
they are pretty good at running huge budget deficits and running up the national debt

Also pretty good at starting pointless wars

Also very good at lecturing everyone on family values while secretly cheating on their wives (often with men)


The wars are pretty useful though.  The planet appreciates it.

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Re: Republicans are WORTHLESS when it comes to Healthcare
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2017, 05:17:04 PM »
The wars are pretty useful though.  The planet appreciates it.

definitely a great way to enrich defense contactrors

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Re: Republicans are WORTHLESS when it comes to Healthcare
« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2017, 05:44:37 PM »

Obamacare at least has attempted to provide universal access to health care (based on the philosophy that health care coverage is more of a right than a privelege) but you can see from the comments above (e.g., on Medicaid) that Americans tend to have more of a sink or swim attitude than your countries do.  We expect people to fend more for themselves.

A good write up but coverage does not equal care.

Many who got "coverage" still couldn't afford it due to co-pays and deductibles.
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Re: Republicans are WORTHLESS when it comes to Healthcare
« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2017, 05:56:40 PM »
they are pretty good at running huge budget deficits and running up the national debt

Also pretty good at starting pointless wars

Also very good at lecturing everyone on family values while secretly cheating on their wives (often with men)



Epic 2006 talking points.

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Re: Republicans are WORTHLESS when it comes to Healthcare
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2017, 05:59:33 PM »
A good write up but coverage does not equal care.

Many who got "coverage" still couldn't afford it due to co-pays and deductibles.
More reason to go to Single Payer.  Luckily there is a growing number on the right coming to this conclusion. 

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Re: Republicans are WORTHLESS when it comes to Healthcare
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2017, 06:09:05 PM »
Could not agree more. I stated on here yesterday the need to get rid of the money making health industry and go single payer. Healthcare will never be affordable and people widely covered with the corporations lining their pockets.

Only thing that annoys me about national healthcare is when people call it "free"  ::)


That's what the Democrats wanted years ago... It's "socialist" though and therefore, evil.

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Re: Republicans are WORTHLESS when it comes to Healthcare
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2017, 06:21:07 PM »
The only people that like Obama care are the millions who were suddenly eligible for medicaid that previously weren't.  Middle class working families are being forced to buy insurance that costs more than their monthly mortgage bill for insurance they can't use because of the high deductible. Tired of the close to 30 million newly eligible for (welfare insurance) called medicaid. Premiums are rising at an incredible rate. Insurance companies are dropping out in droves because they can't turn a profit. Soon there is a rising rate of fines as time goes on for people who don't get insurance.  Imagine your whole tax return not coming because you didn't pay for outrageously priced insurance?  People lost their doctors who didn't participate in the new Obama care plan they were forced to buy. Others on average saw their premium go up 5K  a year. The architect of Obama care is even caught on tape saying people will go for Obama care because they are stupid. How did we manage before Obama? It was a hell of a lot better situation than we are in now with Obamacare.

The new bill will eliminate the mandate that everyone has to buy insurance. That's a start. It will limit the welfare Medicaid back to the old standards. No medicaid isn't free. Someone has to pay that bill and it's the dwindling ranks of the American workers taxes. Estimated costs of Obama care is one Trillion dollars. The is a bill that America can't pay.

some of my relatives premiums doubled in one years that is there reward for going to work everyday and paying taxes

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Re: Republicans are WORTHLESS when it comes to Healthcare
« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2017, 06:22:11 PM »
some of my relatives premiums doubled in one years that is there reward for going to work everyday and paying taxes

Yep, you can thank President Obama for that one.

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Re: Republicans are WORTHLESS when it comes to Healthcare
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2017, 06:27:22 PM »
To the outsider, most of your nations set prices which we don't do. Even when your people are covered by private insurance companies, those companies pay rates that have been set by the government (e.g., Switzerland). In addition to the fact that we may be somewhat less healthy because of obesity and bad eating (although you tend to smoke more), our biggest problem is runaway provider prices. Our hospitals keep building fancier and fancier hospitals out into the most affluent suburbs and our doctors tend to live higher on the hog than yours do. In addition, we subsidize you to a certain extent. We pay extremely high drug prices while yours are capped by your governments. What that means is that we are funding world-wide research and development out of our pockets.

Our insurance companies try to negotiate down prices paid to our providers, but they are not very good at it.  Your governments set the prices, but we call that "socialism".

Obamacare at least has attempted to provide universal access to health care (based on the philosophy that health care coverage is more of a right than a privelege) but you can see from the comments above (e.g., on Medicaid) that Americans tend to have more of a sink or swim attitude than your countries do.  We expect people to fend more for themselves.

Your drug companies and insurance companies are ripping you off. It's not rocket science.