Author Topic: Ron Harris strength claims!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Read 43401 times)

tommywishbone · « **Reply #50 on:** April 05, 2006, 11:21:25 AM »

Quote from: MindSpin on April 05, 2006, 11:15:09 AM

Ron is a cocky twit. He used to work with Lou Zwick on the American Muscle Magazine TV show about ten years ago. He was at one of the tapings I did, and I remember him trying to school me on how to properly pose, train, diet, etc. At the time he was a pencil-neck wannabe who thought he was the shit. Now he is a juiced up meathead who still thinks he's the shit

I met Ron many times throughout the 90's... Mindspin might be right.

Although, people can change... Anyhoo...

michael arvilla · « **Reply #51 on:** April 05, 2006, 11:24:11 AM »

Anybody with a WHOLE website devoted to themselves is a narcissistic self absorbed

self.................... .............wait a sec

N/M

brianX · « **Reply #52 on:** April 05, 2006, 11:26:26 AM »

Quote from: dontknowit on April 05, 2006, 06:03:27 AM

Stop being a hater and put your energy in training.

The gymowner of the place I train, only weights about 187 and presses 308 flat. Back in the days when he competed he pressed 374 incline at a weight of 195. Yet he's quite short, 1,6 m, short fellas tend to press more without any logical explanation.

I do put a lot of energy into my training, which is why I can't stand it when some shithead magazine writer makes stuff up for the hell of it. 315x6 would put his incline bench at around 375, which equates to around a mid 400's bench at 230 lb. I would be willing to bet my getbig account that he can't do full unassisted reps on the incline with 315. Same goes for his 365 lb barbell rows. That's almost 4 plates a side for reps. Most 600 and 700 lb deadlifters would have trouble doing rows with that weight. Complete bullshit.

He might weigh 230, but it's all in his legs and ass. His upper body doesn't look particularly strong. With that kind of bench strength, he should be capable of doing weighted dips with 150-200 lb, yet he can only do 45 lb for a few reps.

brianX · « **Reply #53 on:** April 05, 2006, 11:27:03 AM »

Quote from: rocket on April 05, 2006, 03:38:51 AM

Both sound believable.

Not for Ron Harris they don't.

LuciusFox · « **Reply #54 on:** April 05, 2006, 11:28:06 AM »

Quote from: brianX on April 05, 2006, 11:26:26 AM

I do put a lot of energy into my training, which is why I can't stand it when some shithead magazine writer makes stuff up for the hell of it. 315x6 would put his incline bench at around 375, which equates to around a mid 400's bench at 230 lb. I would be willing to bet my getbig account that he can't do full unassisted reps on the incline with 315. Same goes for his 365 lb barbell rows. That's almost 4 plates a side for reps. Most 600 and 700 lb deadlifters would have trouble doing rows with that weight. Complete bullshit.

He might weigh 230, but it's all in his legs and ass. His upper body doesn't look particularly strong. With that kind of bench strength, he should be capable of doing weighted dips with 150-200 lb, yet he can only do 45 lb for a few reps.

You are so jealous that it's sad. Do something productive with your life instead of tearing others down.

Pazuzu · « **Reply #55 on:** April 05, 2006, 11:29:28 AM »

I am only 28, and I look back at some of the things I said and did when I was a teenager and realize what an IDIOT I was back then. People change, at least I know I have. Don't know if Harris has or not.

Pazuzu · « **Reply #56 on:** April 05, 2006, 11:32:11 AM »

Found this on one of his Daily Pumps - if he can do 140's for incline dumbbells, couldn't he use 315 on a bar?

brianX · « **Reply #57 on:** April 05, 2006, 11:49:29 AM »

Quote from: LuciusFox on April 05, 2006, 11:28:06 AM

You are so jealous that it's sad. Do something productive with your life instead of tearing others down.

I'm not jealous of some steroid clown who lies about his lifts and pretends to be natural. I read his website for years until I realized that he was full of shit. Harris isn't just some random idiot with a website. Many thousands of people read his bullshit articles in the bodybuilding rags, so he's a legit target of criticism.

brianX · « **Reply #58 on:** April 05, 2006, 11:57:29 AM »

Quote from: Pazuzu on April 05, 2006, 11:32:11 AM

Found this on one of his Daily Pumps - if he can do 140's for incline dumbbells, couldn't he use 315 on a bar?

You couldn't have chosen a worse pic to prove your point. He looks like every other goofball who does half reps while a spotter lifts 20% of the weight.

brianX · « **Reply #59 on:** April 05, 2006, 12:08:11 PM »

His arms and chest are tiny for someone who supposedly reps out with 315 on inclines.

Pazuzu · « **Reply #60 on:** April 05, 2006, 12:16:40 PM »

Chest doesn't look tiny here -

Bossa · « **Reply #61 on:** April 05, 2006, 12:19:13 PM »

HAHAHAHA I think its safe to say that Ron turned down "BrianX" when he offered to be his personal cum dumpster hahahahaha now he is nothing but a spurned lover full of hate...sad really

natural al · « **Reply #62 on:** April 05, 2006, 12:19:46 PM »

Quote from: brianX on April 05, 2006, 12:08:11 PM

His arms and chest are tiny for someone who supposedly reps out with 315 on inclines.

well if he's drug free, which I assume he is, he looks fine...this place is getting out of hand. Anytime anyone says anything they're lying. Anytime anyone has a good bodypart it's synthol or people cry cause the guy is on roids and they're not. I've never touched a roid in my life and I could care less how much this guy or that guy lifts. I don't care if someone has bigger arms than me..they made thier choice I made mine. I can live with mine, I hope they can live with thiers and if they can't I could not care less. You guys spend too much damn time ripping anyone stronger or bigger than you...it's just getting out of hand. Tell me, is it completely out of the realm of possibility that he moved the weight he said he did? Go over to mayhem and check out his thread. He talks about this thread and talks about all his lfits mentioned here. He says some of this stuff is old, like someone said he claims to have squated 700lbs, he admits they were shit reps and he could never really do a full rep with that weight....you guys are a bunch of haters.

Pazuzu · « **Reply #63 on:** April 05, 2006, 12:21:10 PM »

Found a pic of him doing 365 on bb rows from his site - looks like he doesn't bend over too far, though - almost seems like a half deadlift stance?

Other pic shows back - no threat to Ronnie or Johnnie J, but there is some thickness to it,

XS · « **Reply #64 on:** April 05, 2006, 12:22:14 PM »

Classic GB

Are his strength claims real??? Bicep implants?? Natty or juiced??? Who cares?

Ron is a good guy. Picsin a REAL gym with REAL weights to back-up everything he posts about. Implants nope... Funny but no.. Juiced or not.. I don't care but I know he's on nothing now and hasn't been for a longtime if he ever did anything at all.. Hell he has cranked the 150's Incline. 315 for 6 is no massive feat. Quit bitchin' and get in the gym and train already. this place is seldom ammusing and tired. I'm currently training to college atheletes that can Incline 315 and just weighed in at 205 and 218 yesterday. Both are over 5'10 and carved out of granite. Both natty for life and on nothing but vit/mins/protein/herbs/ and the 'SECRET" F-O-O-D ..

Oh and Mindspin get a grip.. Everyone in bodybuilding was a cocky know-it-all when they were young and getting their groove on and devoting your life to it... You were no different when Met-RX gave you your 15 mins.. no hating just the truth. Jealousy is ugly man.. I was no different. People change and mature. Get past it already. Life is too short to be bitter and carry a grudge..

God Bless,

XS

Pazuzu · « **Reply #65 on:** April 05, 2006, 12:22:54 PM »

Couldnt' attach 2 pics - here's the bb row - again, form doesn't look so hot as he isn't bending over far enough for what I consider a true bent row!

the_doc · « **Reply #66 on:** April 05, 2006, 12:27:51 PM »

Quote from: Bossa on April 05, 2006, 09:41:06 AM

Doc...are you saying BrianX probably doesn't even workout and if he does his lifts are so pathetic that he finds others benching in triple digits unbelievable?

No, I was exagerating a bit to make a point. It just seeemed ridiculous to dispute Ron's lifts since for a veteran trainer of his size they are good of course but not exceptional. As BB's go, they don't even seem boastfull claims but rather a simple log of his training. I don't that Brian X lifts but it did seem silly to get so upset by Ron's claims.
The Doc

Tap Out · « **Reply #67 on:** April 05, 2006, 12:29:19 PM »

Quote from: Bossa on April 05, 2006, 12:19:13 PM

HAHAHAHA I think its safe to say that Ron turned down "BrianX" when he offered to be his personal cum dumpster hahahahaha now he is nothing but a spurned lover full of hate...sad really

are you trying to say that brianx was dissapointed when he found out that ron's "daily pump" article wasn't about anal sex?

natural al · « **Reply #68 on:** April 05, 2006, 12:29:37 PM »

Quote from: XS on April 05, 2006, 12:22:14 PM

Classic GB Are his strength claims real??? Bicep implants?? Natty or juiced??? Who cares?

Ron is a good guy. Picsin a REAL gym with REAL weights to back-up everything he posts about. Implants nope... Funny but no.. Juiced or not.. I don't care but I know he's on nothing now and hasn't been for a longtime if he ever did anything at all.. Hell he has cranked the 150's Incline. 315 for 6 is no massive feat. Quit bitchin' and get in the gym and train already. this place is seldom ammusing and tired. I'm currently training to college atheletes that can Incline 315 and just weighed in at 205 and 218 yesterday. Both are over 5'10 and carved out of granite. Both natty for life and on nothing but vit/mins/protein/herbs/ and the 'SECRET" F-O-O-D ..

Oh and Mindspin get a grip.. Everyone in bodybuilding was a cocky know-it-all when they were young and getting their groove on and devoting your life to it... You were no different when Met-RX gave you your 15 mins.. no hating just the truth. Jealousy is ugly man.. I was no different. People change and mature. Get past it already. Life is too short to be bitter and carry a grudge..

God Bless,

XS

amen to that, this place is getting OLD...I wouldn't dare post a pic or make a claim on lifting anything...

War-Horse · « **Reply #69 on:** April 05, 2006, 12:34:32 PM »

Quote from: Pazuzu on April 05, 2006, 12:22:54 PM

Couldnt' attach 2 pics - here's the bb row - again, form doesn't look so hot as he isn't bending over far enough for what I consider a true bent row!

Thats called a deadlift.lol He is a good example of someone with terrible genetics making the best of it. Got to give him props for getting in the trenches, when even winning a state title may be beyond him.

brianX · « **Reply #70 on:** April 05, 2006, 12:36:46 PM »

I'm not really criticizing Harris's physique. His arms and chest are his only real weaknesses. I just don't think he has any credibility when it comes to training.

MindSpin · « **Reply #71 on:** April 05, 2006, 12:38:31 PM »

Quote from: XS on April 05, 2006, 12:22:14 PM

Oh and Mindspin get a grip.. Everyone in bodybuilding was a cocky know-it-all when they were young and getting their groove on and devoting your life to it... You were no different when Met-RX gave you your 15 mins.. no hating just the truth. Jealousy is ugly man.. I was no different. People change and mature. Get past it already. Life is too short to be bitter and carry a grudge..

God Bless,

XS

Trust me pal, I'm not bitter about anything. Anyone who knows me can tell you that I am a down-to-earth regular guy. But, like anyone I have my pet peeves. The two I most often rant about are She-Beats & delusional bodybuilders who think that they're "the shit".

I read an article that Harris wrote last year about the Titus after party. Listening to him brag about his "Movado" watch and all of the other materialistic BS was as humorous as it was sickening.

Material excess financed through plastic money…ha ha ha! Oh brother

the_doc · « **Reply #72 on:** April 05, 2006, 12:43:54 PM »

Quote from: brianX on April 05, 2006, 11:26:26 AM

I do put a lot of energy into my training, which is why I can't stand it when some shithead magazine writer makes stuff up for the hell of it. 315x6 would put his incline bench at around 375, which equates to around a mid 400's bench at 230 lb. I would be willing to bet my getbig account that he can't do full unassisted reps on the incline with 315. Same goes for his 365 lb barbell rows. That's almost 4 plates a side for reps. Most 600 and 700 lb deadlifters would have trouble doing rows with that weight. Complete bullshit.

He might weigh 230, but it's all in his legs and ass. His upper body doesn't look particularly strong. With that kind of bench strength, he should be capable of doing weighted dips with 150-200 lb, yet he can only do 45 lb for a few reps.

Glad to hear you put a lot of energy into your training. Keep it up and the gains will come, be it strength and or mass. Again the 315 is not incredible. After 10/12 hours in hospital I have done maybe 2/3 reps with 225 or deadlifted 365 or dumbell inc pressed 90lbs for 6-8. Do I think my lifts are impressive? No! But I've only been doing this inconsistently for 7/8 years.
I don't look like Ron Harris, infact I probably look more like '240 or bust'. So his form on BB row's isn't great judging by those pics and considering his back developement should probably do better reps with less weight but so what. Maybe he gets a kick out of incresing his poundages. Do you never get a buzz out of lifting a weight you have never done before.I got a bigger buzz from the first time I benched 100kg(225lbs) than from making my chest go from 39" to 44". I just can't see the reason for your anger. Of cousre you don't want to see your hardwork in the gym be amde seem like nothing due to some claims on the internet but get real, surely you have seen guys in your own gym who don't look as good as Ron put up similar numbers? I don't for one minute think I'm training in a gym full of freaks and a few guys can hit those weights. One of my old training partners hit 405lbs on incline for 4 reps aged 21 at around 230lbs and 6'2". Did everyone in the gym cry "bullshit"? Of course not.
Good luck with your training buddy but no need to try and discredit Ron when he's not even claiming to be anything special. Peace,
The Doc

brianX · « **Reply #73 on:** April 05, 2006, 12:47:47 PM »

Quote from: Pazuzu on April 05, 2006, 12:22:54 PM

Couldnt' attach 2 pics - here's the bb row - again, form doesn't look so hot as he isn't bending over far enough for what I consider a true bent row!

Isn't he always extolling the virtues of using good form in his articles? hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahaha!!!

Pazuzu · « **Reply #74 on:** April 05, 2006, 12:58:38 PM »

At least Ron hasn't killed anyone and burned their body in the trunk of his own car!

Movados aren't that expensive - I got my girlfriend one for her birthday last year and it was on sale for 600 bucks. If he had said 'Rolex,' I would have thought he was bragging.