Manchester England - Terrorist Attack outside Ariana Grande Concert - Discuss

[NarcissisticDeity]

oh yeh cos you're really "dealing with them" now eh? the "war on terror" has been a great success! 

all the US has done is draw europe into it's BS and now we're getting the brunt of it

Keep blaming everyone except the terrorists  fantastic logic. Again they've been attacking us LONG before we were ever " bombing their countries "

[Conker]

Keep blaming everyone except the terrorists  fantastic logic. Again they've been attacking us LONG before we were ever " bombing their countries "

well let's put it this way, there has been large communities of muslims in european countires for decades, and none of them were trying to blow us up until we got ourselves dragged into the US's pathetic "war on terror"

i guess it's just a coincidence that the start of us getting blown up by muslims directly coincided with the start of us bombing muslim countries 

[Henda]

I can't fucking wait till people have enough of this shit and start blowing up mosques it has got to happen at some point sooner rather than later, the same stinking paki bastards commiting these acts of terrorism have been happy to collect the handouts this country seems so eager to give the filthy kunts, they all should be sent back to their own Muslim shithole and all these idiots who defend the muslim swine should be sent there with them and we will see how much they like the Muslim filth having to live amongst it, theyd be begging to come back with tail between legs within a week.

[NarcissisticDeity]

well let's put it this way, there has been large communities of muslims in european countires for decades, and none of them were trying to blow us up until we got ourselves dragged into the US's pathetic "war on terror"

i guess it's just a coincidence that the start of us getting blown up by muslims directly coincided with the start of us bombing muslim countries 

Yep blame Americans NOT the actual terrorists , that logic won't save your ass when push comes to shove. There wouldn't be a " War on terror " if these assholes didn't start one. Read the list of direct terrorist attacks on American/s well before we ever stepped foot in Iraq of Afghanistan. They've been fucking with us for far to long and we've let them get away with it.

[HonestBob]

well let's put it this way, there has been large communities of muslims in european countires for decades, and none of them were trying to blow us up until we got ourselves dragged into the US's pathetic "war on terror"

i guess it's just a coincidence that the start of us getting blown up by muslims directly coincided with the start of us bombing muslim countries 

Muslims don't assimilate anywhere you idiot. They never have and they never will.

[Bindare_Dundat]

well let's put it this way, there has been large communities of muslims in european countires for decades, and none of them were trying to blow us up until we got ourselves dragged into the US's pathetic "war on terror"

i guess it's just a coincidence that the start of us getting blown up by muslims directly coincided with the start of us bombing muslim countries  

look at history numb nuts. they invaded Europe before and are trying again.  it's happened long before any war on terror dummy.

[Conker]

Yep blame Americans NOT the actual terrorists , that logic won't save your ass when push comes to shove. There wouldn't be a " War on terror " if these assholes didn't start one. Read the list of direct terrorist attacks on American/s well before we ever stepped foot in Iraq of Afghanistan. They've been fucking with us for far to long and we've let them get away with it.

while you're looking at that list why not go and take a look at the list of countries bombed by the US since WWII. the US has double dealt and stirred up sht in every corner of the globe. It is hands down the most duplicitous nation on the planet. why do you think your one time ally decided to blow up the twin towers? and it's the same reason your embassies etc are always targets around the world.

typical US mentality - start a load of fires then claim to be the victim when you get burnt yourself. i just wish europe had resisted getting dragged into your BS. but then there was all that "you're either with us or against us" bush war on terror BS rhetoric. probably fear you'd turn on us if we didn't join you.

[Fortress]

I always chuckle how the same folks that devote time to their crusade of "we need to reclaim our country and remove the evil spreading of Islam" also blindly criticize Christianity for the crusades which were initially the exact situation these objectors are promoting.  Certainly the crusades became perverted by a nasty political agenda coupled with the insurgent behavior of the RCC's hired warfare hordes, but initially it was an effort to defend Christianity territory from Islamic invasion and prevent innocents from being slaughtered.

I value a majority of Christian teachings and I happily accept the West's foundation being upon these.

I cherish them.

Doesn't mean I believe in a sky wizard. 

[Fortress]

Muslims don't assimilate anywhere you idiot. They never have and they never will.

Truth.

[ratherbebig]

sky wizard.

[Fortress]

while you're looking at that list why not go and take a look at the list of countries bombed by the US since WWII. the US has double dealt and stirred up sht in every corner of the globe. It is hands down the most duplicitous nation on the planet. why do you think your one time ally decided to blow up the twin towers? and it's the same reason your embassies etc are always targets around the world.

typical US mentality - start a load of fires then claim to be the victim when you get burnt yourself. i just wish europe had resisted getting dragged into your BS. but then there was all that "you're either with us or against us" bush war on terror BS rhetoric. probably fear you'd turn on us if we didn't join you.

You're really something else.

You simply do not have the brain power to compute the bigger picture (history, the treacherous Jews, etc.) and understand an ideology that HATES anyone and anything NOT Muslim and Islamic.

[NarcissisticDeity]

while you're looking at that list why not go and take a look at the list of countries bombed by the US since WWII. the US has double dealt and stirred up sht in every corner of the globe. It is hands down the most duplicitous nation on the planet. why do you think your one time ally decided to blow up the twin towers? and it's the same reason your embassies etc are always targets around the world.

typical US mentality - start a load of fires then claim to be the victim when you get burnt yourself. i just wish europe had resisted getting dragged into your BS. but then there was all that "you're either with us or against us" bush war on terror BS rhetoric. probably fear you'd turn on us if we didn't join you.

Boy you're doubling down on your stupidity. We're specifically talking about Muslim attacks NOT the shit the U.S has done post WWII and if you think that's an excuse you're a bigger moron than I initially thought.

the US has double dealt and stirred up sht in every corner of the globe.

Using your logic all we have to do is change that US to the UK over history and the terror attacks you're getting now is just your comeuppance for all of British Colonialism , sound ridiculous? 

Again blame the actually terrorists , their ideology and their religion for the terror they are now committing. Your Muslim overlords will behead you as soon as you're done licking their boots.

[Conker]

Boy you're doubling down on your stupidity. We're specifically talking about Muslim attacks NOT the shit the U.S has done post WWII and if you think that's an excuse you're a bigger moron than I initially thought.

Using your logic all we have to do is change that US to the UK over history and the terror attacks you're getting now is just your comeuppance for all of British Colonialism , sound ridiculous? 

Again blame the actually terrorists , their ideology and their religion for the terror they are now committing. Your Muslim overlords will behead you as soon as you're done licking their boots.

dude i have more sense in the tip of my cock than you have in your entire body. so stop with the infantile name calling. 

as i said in my previous post we had no problem with muslims wanting to blow us up before we helped the US destabilise and destroy  several countries in the middle east. since then we have a problem with muslims wanting to blow us up.

doesn't take a fkin genius to work out does it...

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[Man of Steel]

I value a majority of Christian teachings and I happily accept the West's foundation being upon these.

I cherish them.

Doesn't mean I believe in a sky wizard. 

What's a sky wizard?

[Pray_4_War]

no one is blaming American dumbass

weird how right wingers always trot out that idiot claim whenever this happens

the first post on this thread is another variation on that theme asking how liberal would  "defend" this

no one is defending it and no one is blaming America for this

Bullshit, we have people diverting the conversation to Trump, diverting the conversation to UK foreign policy, diverting the conversation to US foreign policy.

A lot of people saying "if we just leave them alone the'll be nice to us".  "If we just stamp out Islamaphoia they'll be nice to us".  Nonsense!

It's absolute horse shit.  People need to educate themselves on political Islam.  Islam is not just a religion, it is a political movement.  They want to conquer and they want the west to submit to them.

Convert or die.  Accept Sharia law or die.  This is an invasion by a hostile force and is has fuck all to do with Trump, Republicans, George W Bush, US foreign policy, UK foreign policy, Iraq, etc.

[Pray_4_War]

I always chuckle how the same folks that devote time to their crusade of "we need to reclaim our country and remove the evil spreading of Islam" also blindly criticize Christianity for the crusades which were initially the exact situation these objectors are promoting.  Certainly the crusades became perverted by a nasty political agenda coupled with the insurgent behavior of the RCC's hired warfare hordes, but initially it was an effort to defend Christianity territory from Islamic invasion and prevent innocents from being slaughtered.

People don't know about the Crusades, they only know about the liberal medias characterization of the Crusades.  The liberal media's insistence on creating false equivalencies and using them as excuses.

"I know this is bad but Christians do it too"

"I know this is bad but white people do it too"

"I know this is bad but America does it too"

[FitnessFrenzy]

dude i have more sense in the tip of my cock than you have in your entire body. so stop with the infantile name calling. 

as i said in my previous post we had no problem with muslims wanting to blow us up before we helped the US destabilise and destroy  several countries in the middle east. since then we have a problem with muslims wanting to blow us up.

doesn't take a fkin genius to work out does it...

/thread

I doubt your steroid inflated body has seen the inside of a higher learning facility? Your post certainly seems nebulous and quotidian.

[NarcissisticDeity]

dude i have more sense in the tip of my cock than you have in your entire body. so stop with the infantile name calling. 

as i said in my previous post we had no problem with muslims wanting to blow us up before we helped the US destabilise and destroy  several countries in the middle east. since then we have a problem with muslims wanting to blow us up.

doesn't take a fkin genius to work out does it...

/thread

dude i have more sense in the tip of my cock than you have in your entire body. so stop with the infantile name calling. 

So much you ignore facts  not address one single point , make broad sweeping statements

as i said in my previous post we had no problem with muslims wanting to blow us up before we helped the US destabilise and destroy  several countries in the middle east. since then we have a problem with muslims wanting to blow us up.

Yes bury your head in the sand , blame the Americans lets see how that will prevent the next terrorist attack , bow down and beg for forgiveness I'm sure they'll stop shooting innocent people long enough to accept your apology.

doesn't take a fkin genius to work out does it...

It takes a special kind of moron to blame everyone except the terrorists.

[NarcissisticDeity]

What's a sky wizard?

That imaginary friend you have a " relationship " with.

[Powerlift66]

I doubt your steroid inflated body has seen the inside of a higher learning facility? Your post certainly seems nebulous and quotidian.

And don't forget "shallow and pedantic"...

Muzzies suck,period...

[Fortress]

And don't forget "shallow and pedantic"...

Muzzies suck,period...

Any and all Muzzies are our enemy. Period.

[Pray_4_War]

Any and all Muzzies are our enemy. Period.

I have seen no evidence that Mooslims are peaceful and that it's just a hand full of radicals that are perverting their faith.

What the terrorists are doing is right out of the Islamic texts.  Every mooslim might not want to be a martyr themselves but they don't seem too broken up about the ones that do.

[Simple Simon]

Yep blame Americans NOT the actual terrorists , that logic won't save your ass when push comes to shove. There wouldn't be a " War on terror " if these assholes didn't start one. Read the list of direct terrorist attacks on American/s well before we ever stepped foot in Iraq of Afghanistan. They've been fucking with us for far to long and we've let them get away with it.

ISIS a product of the USA.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/737430/CIA-ISIS-Wikileaks-Carter-Cables-III-Julian-Assange
http://www.globalresearch.ca/america-created-al-qaeda-and-the-isis-terror-group/5402881

[NarcissisticDeity]

ISIS a product of the USA.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/737430/CIA-ISIS-Wikileaks-Carter-Cables-III-Julian-Assange
http://www.globalresearch.ca/america-created-al-qaeda-and-the-isis-terror-group/5402881

And? This has what to do with ALL of the terrorist attacks that they committed against the U.S before we ever started bombing their countries? Answer that question? We deserved those? What's the apologists excuse?




1979
Nov. 4, Tehran, Iran: Iranian radical students seized the U.S. embassy, taking 66 hostages. 14 were later released. The remaining 52 were freed after 444 days on the day of President Reagan's inauguration.
1982–1991
Lebanon: Thirty US and other Western hostages kidnapped in Lebanon by Hezbollah. Some were killed, some died in captivity, and some were eventually released. Terry Anderson was held for 2,454 days.
1983
April 18, Beirut, Lebanon: U.S. embassy destroyed in suicide car-bomb attack; 63 dead, including 17 Americans. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
Oct. 23, Beirut, Lebanon: Shiite suicide bombers exploded truck near U.S. military barracks at Beirut airport, killing 241 marines. Minutes later a second bomb killed 58 French paratroopers in their barracks in West Beirut.
Dec. 12, Kuwait City, Kuwait: Shiite truck bombers attacked the U.S. embassy and other targets, killing 5 and injuring 80.
1984
Sept. 20, east Beirut, Lebanon: truck bomb exploded outside the U.S. embassy annex, killing 24, including 2 U.S. military.
Dec. 3, Beirut, Lebanon: Kuwait Airways Flight 221, from Kuwait to Pakistan, hijacked and diverted to Tehran. 2 Americans killed.
1985
April 12, Madrid, Spain: Bombing at restaurant frequented by U.S. soldiers, killed 18 Spaniards and injured 82.
June 14, Beirut, Lebanon: TWA Flight 847 en route from Athens to Rome hijacked to Beirut by Hezbollah terrorists and held for 17 days. A U.S. Navy diver executed.
Oct. 7, Mediterranean Sea: gunmen attack Italian cruise ship, Achille Lauro. One U.S. tourist killed. Hijacking linked to Libya.
Dec. 18, Rome, Italy, and Vienna, Austria: airports in Rome and Vienna were bombed, killing 20 people, 5 of whom were Americans. Bombing linked to Libya.
1986
April 2, Athens, Greece:A bomb exploded aboard TWA flight 840 en route from Rome to Athens, killing 4 Americans and injuring 9.
April 5, West Berlin, Germany: Libyans bombed a disco frequented by U.S. servicemen, killing 2 and injuring hundreds.
1988
Dec. 21, Lockerbie, Scotland: N.Y.-bound Pan-Am Boeing 747 exploded in flight from a terrorist bomb and crashed into Scottish village, killing all 259 aboard and 11 on the ground. Passengers included 35 Syracuse University students and many U.S. military personnel. Libya formally admitted responsibility 15 years later (Aug. 2003) and offered $2.7 billion compensation to victims' families.
1993
Feb. 26, New York City: bomb exploded in basement garage of World Trade Center, killing 6 and injuring at least 1,040 others. In 1995, militant Islamist Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and 9 others were convicted of conspiracy charges, and in 1998, Ramzi Yousef, believed to have been the mastermind, was convicted of the bombing. Al-Qaeda involvement is suspected.
1995
April 19, Oklahoma City: car bomb exploded outside federal office building, collapsing wall and floors. 168 people were killed, including 19 children and 1 person who died in rescue effort. Over 220 buildings sustained damage. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols later convicted in the antigovernment plot to avenge the Branch Davidian standoff in Waco, Tex., exactly 2 years earlier. (See Miscellaneous Disasters.)
Nov. 13, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: car bomb exploded at U.S. military headquarters, killing 5 U.S. military servicemen.
1996
June 25, Dhahran, Saudi Arabia: truck bomb exploded outside Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen and injuring hundreds of others. 13 Saudis and a Lebanese, all alleged members of Islamic militant group Hezbollah, were indicted on charges relating to the attack in June 2001.
1998
Aug. 7, Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania: truck bombs exploded almost simultaneously near 2 U.S. embassies, killing 224 (213 in Kenya and 11 in Tanzania) and injuring about 4,500. 4 men connected with al-Qaeda 2 of whom had received training at al-Qaeda camps inside Afghanistan, were convicted of the killings in May 2001 and later sentenced to life in prison. A federal grand jury had indicted 22 men in connection with the attacks, including Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden, who remained at large.
2000
Oct. 12, Aden, Yemen: U.S. Navy destroyer USS Cole heavily damaged when a small boat loaded with explosives blew up alongside it. 17 sailors killed. Linked to Osama bin Laden, or members of al-Qaeda terrorist network.
2001
Sept. 11, New York City, Arlington, Va., and Shanksville, Pa.: hijackers crashed 2 commercial jets into twin towers of World Trade Center; 2 more hijacked jets were crashed into the Pentagon and a field in rural Pa. Total dead and missing numbered 2,9921: 2,749 in New York City, 184 at the Pentagon, 40 in Pa., and 19 hijackers. Islamic al-Qaeda terrorist group blamed. (See September 11, 2001: Timeline of Terrorism.)

[Yamcha]

And nobody asked why the son of Libyan immigrants wanted to go to war torn Syria on 'vacation'?