London - White van runs over pedestrians near London Bridge

[Thin Lizzy]

Where have you been?

Other than as an occasional guest appearance to blow off steam, I just don't post on forums anymore. As evidenced by the declining post count in most of them I believe this medium has jumped the shark.

Tx for asking.

[Conker]

Conker the liberal mussie-lover.

not a liberal and indifferent to muslims.

[ratherbebig]

Other than as an occasional guest appearance to blow off steam, I just don't post on forums anymore. As evidenced by the declining post count in most of them I believe this medium has jumped the shark.

Tx for asking.

so youre basically spending your time on instagram liking photos of guys in their underwear these days.

[NarcissisticDeity]

London's Mayor “no reason to be alarmed.” I wonder who's a bigger apologist him or Conker?

[ratherbebig]

has anyone in the uk proposed the idea that they, citizens of the uk, should be allowed to arm themselves? or is all that's left for them to stay in the pubs and arm themselves with chairs and bottles awaiting the next attack?

[mazrim]

not a liberal and indifferent to muslims

Lol

[Conker]

London's Mayor “no reason to be alarmed.” I wonder who's a bigger apologist him or Conker?

"Londoners will see an increased police presence today and over the course of the next few days. There's no reason to be alarmed," Mr Khan said.

what should we do...all run around like headless chickens, all get tooled up with guns?

US roughly 15000 murders per year. UK roughly 600....think we should stick to the calm approach, thanks.

[hench]

Arm themselves with what?

has anyone in the uk proposed the idea that they, citizens of the uk, should be allowed to arm themselves? or is all that's left for them to stay in the pubs and arm themselves with chairs and bottles awaiting the next attack?

[ratherbebig]

Arm themselves with what?

if 3 people were attacking with knives in texas what do you think would happen? they would get chairs and bottles thrown at them?

[Conker]

if 3 people were attacking with knives in texas what do you think would happen? they would get chairs and bottles thrown at them?

who gives a fk what they'd do in texas. you have 15000 murders a year in the US we have 600. who in their right mind would ever look to the US for example? apart from of what definitely not to do. LOL

[Yamcha]

The day is inching closer lads...

[ratherbebig]

who gives a fk what they'd do in texas. you have 15000 murders a year in the US we have 600. who in their right mind would ever look to the US for example? apart from of what definitely not to do. LOL

in other words, you're fine with being in a bar throwing bottles and chairs as your only way to defend yourself?

[Yamcha]

Pew Research (2013):
Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda.
Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban.
13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/

Wenzel Strategies (2012):
58% of Muslim-Americans believe criticism of Islam or Muhammad is not protected free speech under the First Amendment.
45% believe mockers of Islam should face criminal charges (38% said they should not).
12% of Muslim-Americans believe blaspheming Islam should be punishable by death.
43% of Muslim-Americans believe people of other faiths have no right to evangelize Muslims.
32% of Muslims in America believe that Sharia should be the supreme law of the land.
http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2012/10/31/sixty-percent-of-us-muslims-reject-freedom-of-expression

ICM Poll:
40% of British Muslims want Sharia in the UK
20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

Pew Research (2010):
82% of Egyptian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
70% of Jordanian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
42% of Indonesian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
82% of Pakistanis favor stoning adulterers
56% of Nigerian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

WZB Berlin Social Science Center:
65% of Muslims in Europe say Sharia is more important than the law of the country they live in.
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4092/europe-islamic-fundamentalism

Pew Global (2006)
68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
http://cnsnews.com/node/53865

World Public Opinion (2009)
61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

NOP Research:
62% percent of British Muslims say freedom of speech shouldn't be protected 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
78% of British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Muhammad cartoons
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06

People Press Surveys
31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
http://www.people-press.org/2004/03/16/a-year-after-iraq-war/

Belgian HLN:
16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/article/detail/1619036/2013/04/22/Zestien-procent-moslimjongens-vindt-terrorisme-aanvaardbaar.dhtml

ICM Poll:
25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2004/Guardian%20Muslims%20Poll%20Nov%2004/Guardian%20Muslims%20Nov04.asp

Pew Research (2007):
26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60

Al-Jazeera (2006)
49.9% of Muslims polled support Osama bin Laden
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden

Populus Poll (2006):
16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

GfK NOP:
28% of British Muslims want Britain to be an Islamic state
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf

NOP Research:
68% of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam;
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06

MacDonald Laurier Institute:
62% of Muslims want Sharia in Canada (15% say make it mandatory)
35% of Canadian Muslims would not repudiate al-Qaeda
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01/strong-support-for-shariah-in-canada
http://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/much-good-news-and-some-worrying-results-in-new-study-of-muslim-public-opinion-in-canada/

al-Arabiya:
36% of Arabs polled said the 9/11 attacks were morally justified; 38% disagreed; 26% Unsure
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/09/10/166274.html

Gallup:
38.6% of Muslims believe 9/11 attacks were justified (7% "fully", 6.5% "mostly", 23.1% "partially")
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/just-like-us-really

[ratherbebig]

thats a lot of statistics

anything special you want to discuss?

[hench]

I don't see how letting people legally carry weapons would stop this. You'd just see a massive increase in violent crime across the board.
I dunno what the answer is you can't police someone deciding to suddenly use their car or van as a murder weapon

if 3 people were attacking with knives in texas what do you think would happen? they would get chairs and bottles thrown at them?

[ratherbebig]

well i guess the only alternative left for the british is scaring attackers of by a most muscular, but then steroids are also illegal...

[Conker]

in other words, you're fine with being in a bar throwing bottles and chairs as your only way to defend yourself?

in other words, i'm fine with us having 600 murders a year compared to 15,000 in the US. so regardless of current issues i wouldn't want us to adopt anything from the states that's seen as a way to "defend" ourselves from being murdered. As it really doesn't appear you have quite sussed that one yet.

hope that make sense.

[HockeyFightFan]

who gives a fk what they'd do in texas. you have 15000 murders a year in the US we have 600. who in their right mind would ever look to the US for example? apart from of what definitely not to do. LOL

About 14,000 of those are ghetto blacks shooting ghetto blacks over drug deals, gang turf, and disrespect, so I'd hesitate to say that is a threat to any average American.

You have a strange jealousy about America and Americans, how many U.S. college students took part in pulling that train on your wife?

[Waller]

well i guess the only alternative left for the british is scaring attackers of by a most muscular, but then steroids are also illegal...

No they're not.  

[Conker]

I don't see how letting people legally carry weapons would stop this. You'd just see a massive increase in violent crime across the board.
I dunno what the answer is you can't police someone deciding to suddenly use their car or van as a murder weapon

If we all had guns we could quickly shoot the driver of any potential run away van before anything ever happens. piaow ! piaow! piaow!

it's working out great for them in the states don't you know

[Conker]

About 14,000 of those are ghetto blacks shooting ghetto blacks over drug deals, gang turf, and disrespect, so I'd hesitate to say that is a threat to any average American.

You have a strange jealousy about America and Americans, how many U.S. college students took part in pulling that train on your wife?

probably a lot less than the number of black guys that used to routinely fk your mom while you hid under her bed. it's no wonder you grew up to be such a faggety, bitter sissy boy.

[Soul Crusher]

religion of filth and goatfucking animals

Pew Research (2013):
Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda.
Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban.
13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/

Wenzel Strategies (2012):
58% of Muslim-Americans believe criticism of Islam or Muhammad is not protected free speech under the First Amendment.
45% believe mockers of Islam should face criminal charges (38% said they should not).
12% of Muslim-Americans believe blaspheming Islam should be punishable by death.
43% of Muslim-Americans believe people of other faiths have no right to evangelize Muslims.
32% of Muslims in America believe that Sharia should be the supreme law of the land.
http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2012/10/31/sixty-percent-of-us-muslims-reject-freedom-of-expression

ICM Poll:
40% of British Muslims want Sharia in the UK
20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

Pew Research (2010):
82% of Egyptian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
70% of Jordanian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
42% of Indonesian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
82% of Pakistanis favor stoning adulterers
56% of Nigerian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

WZB Berlin Social Science Center:
65% of Muslims in Europe say Sharia is more important than the law of the country they live in.
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4092/europe-islamic-fundamentalism

Pew Global (2006)
68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
http://cnsnews.com/node/53865

World Public Opinion (2009)
61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

NOP Research:
62% percent of British Muslims say freedom of speech shouldn't be protected 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
78% of British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Muhammad cartoons
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06

People Press Surveys
31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
http://www.people-press.org/2004/03/16/a-year-after-iraq-war/

Belgian HLN:
16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/article/detail/1619036/2013/04/22/Zestien-procent-moslimjongens-vindt-terrorisme-aanvaardbaar.dhtml

ICM Poll:
25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2004/Guardian%20Muslims%20Poll%20Nov%2004/Guardian%20Muslims%20Nov04.asp

Pew Research (2007):
26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60

Al-Jazeera (2006)
49.9% of Muslims polled support Osama bin Laden
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden

Populus Poll (2006):
16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

GfK NOP:
28% of British Muslims want Britain to be an Islamic state
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf

NOP Research:
68% of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam;
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06

MacDonald Laurier Institute:
62% of Muslims want Sharia in Canada (15% say make it mandatory)
35% of Canadian Muslims would not repudiate al-Qaeda
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01/strong-support-for-shariah-in-canada
http://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/much-good-news-and-some-worrying-results-in-new-study-of-muslim-public-opinion-in-canada/

al-Arabiya:
36% of Arabs polled said the 9/11 attacks were morally justified; 38% disagreed; 26% Unsure
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/09/10/166274.html

Gallup:
38.6% of Muslims believe 9/11 attacks were justified (7% "fully", 6.5% "mostly", 23.1% "partially")
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/just-like-us-really

[HockeyFightFan]

If we all had guns we could quickly shoot the driver of any potential run away van before anything ever happens. piaow ! piaow! piaow!

it's working out great for them in the states don't you know

You can brag about the low levels of gun violence in the U.K. right up to the point Sharia Law is implemented. Then you will cry and turn to the U.S. for help.

If I were Trump I'd tell the U.K. to call Angela Merkel

[Thin Lizzy]

About 14,000 of those are ghetto blacks shooting ghetto blacks over drug deals, gang turf, and disrespect, so I'd hesitate to say that is a threat to any average American.

True statistic. Most Europeans don't realize that most of the crime and violence in the U.S is committed by a single demographic.

That's why we can't have Muzzies, here. Ghetto blacks are already a problem beyond repair.

[HockeyFightFan]

probably a lot less than the number of black guys that used to routinely fk your mom while you hid under her bed. it's no wonder you grew up to be such a faggety, bitter sissy boy.

Short, stubby, fat men have such anger issues.

Practice saying it now, "Allah Ackbar". Make sure your daughters get used to the hijab at an early age.