Another liberal nutjob shoots up the joint.

[Straw Man]

Here's another Democrat urging gun violence against Congress

[Soul Crusher]

Here's another Democrat urging gun violence against Congress

Except that this loser was a liberal and obsessed w madcow and communist Bernie Sanders and the far left agenda

[Straw Man]

Except that this loser was a liberal and obsessed w madcow and communist Bernie Sanders and the far left agenda

you have no clue who that person is who is speaking...do you?

[tonymctones]

yep, I also remember the multitude if incidents of violence by Trump supporters after the election

in both cases microscopic numbers compared the number of people who voted

Dude I agree with you that there are nuts and even violent nuts on both sides of which this dude certainly is.

But it's not even close to say that rep protest have been as violent or disruptive as dem ones have been since the election. Do you not remember the protests for weeks after the election? The burning and destruction to property that took place? What about the recent protests to conservative speakers?

This is part of the reason this shit continues bc people on both sides won't recognize and condemn shit done by their fellow supporters.

[LurkerNoMore]

So the politician who was shot by a nutjob actually voted to make firearms accessible to mentally unstable people?

It's a tragedy for sure, but I have no sympathy for him.  It's about as hypocritical as politicians passing anti gay laws and then getting caught in gay scandals or passing strict drug laws only to be busted in drug stings. 

[Soul Crusher]

So the politician who was shot by a nutjob actually voted to make firearms accessible to mentally unstable people?

It's a tragedy for sure, but I have no sympathy for him.  It's about as hypocritical as politicians passing anti gay laws and then getting caught in gay scandals or passing strict drug laws only to be busted in drug stings. 

He wasn't on a no buy list. 

[LurkerNoMore]

He wasn't on a no buy list. 

That's not the point.

I am pointing out the hypocritical irony of this (and other actions).

[tonymctones]

That's not the point.

I am pointing out the hypocritical irony of this (and other actions).

How about the hypocrisy of shorter jail times, less convictions for non violent offenses and then complaining about violent crimes?

Plenty of hypocrisy to go around lurker

[LurkerNoMore]

How about the hypocrisy of shorter jail times, less convictions for non violent offenses and then complaining about violent crimes?

Plenty of hypocrisy to go around lurker

Hypocrisy comes in many forms.  I listed three there.  By no means was that insinuating that was all there was.

[tonymctones]

Hypocrisy comes in many forms.  I listed three there.  By no means was that insinuating that was all there was.

Just confused as you skipped over one to make a point about another. This guy had multiple run ins with the law. Including one where he allegedly punched a girl in the mouth and pointed a shot gun ata guy before hitting him with it and firing a shot in the air. DUI, I believe a resisting arrest...a lot of failures to go around on this one so probably best not to highlight just one

[Primemuscle]

How about the hypocrisy of shorter jail times, less convictions for non violent offenses and then complaining about violent crimes?

Plenty of hypocrisy to go around lurker

How about the U.S. has more incarcerated folks than any other country.

[tonymctones]

How about the U.S. has more incarcerated folks than any other country.

And??? Don't break the fucking law!!!

[Primemuscle]

And??? Don't break the fucking law!!!

Are you suggesting that more people in the U.S. break the law or that there are more laws to break?

[LurkerNoMore]

Just confused as you skipped over one to make a point about another. This guy had multiple run ins with the law. Including one where he allegedly punched a girl in the mouth and pointed a shot gun ata guy before hitting him with it and firing a shot in the air. DUI, I believe a resisting arrest...a lot of failures to go around on this one so probably best not to highlight just one

No I didn't.  The first one I listed was specifically related to this thread and the actions being discussed here.  None of the other actions you listed (punching a girl, DUI, pointing a shot gun) had anything to do with any hypocritical vote that Scalise has cast.

[Straw Man]

Dude I agree with you that there are nuts and even violent nuts on both sides of which this dude certainly is.

But it's not even close to say that rep protest have been as violent or disruptive as dem ones have been since the election. Do you not remember the protests for weeks after the election? The burning and destruction to property that took place? What about the recent protests to conservative speakers?

This is part of the reason this shit continues bc people on both sides won't recognize and condemn shit done by their fellow supporters.

Do you not remember the Tea Party protests right after Obama's election

Do you not remember the Tea Party strategy of screaming down anyone at a town hall (that was actually a written strategy)

here's the link to the memo

http://d35brb9zkkbdsd.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/townhallactionmemo.pdf

[Yamcha]

Do you not remember the Tea Party protests right after Obama's election

Do you not remember the Tea Party strategy of screaming down anyone at a town hall (that was actually a written strategy)

here's the link to the memo

http://d35brb9zkkbdsd.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/townhallactionmemo.pdf

Should be plenty of video of it then.

[Straw Man]

Should be plenty of video of it then.

yep

[tonymctones]

No I didn't.  The first one I listed was specifically related to this thread and the actions being discussed here.  None of the other actions you listed (punching a girl, DUI, pointing a shot gun) had anything to do with any hypocritical vote that Scalise has cast.

You're right it has to do with hyprocrital politicians who argue for shorter jail terms and letting people off for non violent offenses and then acting upset when those people commit violent offenses.

Those all pre-dated the shooting of the congressman

[tonymctones]

Are you suggesting that more people in the U.S. break the law or that there are more laws to break?

Doesn't matter, the answer is the same...DONT BREAK THE LAW!!!!

[tonymctones]

Do you not remember the Tea Party protests right after Obama's election

Do you not remember the Tea Party strategy of screaming down anyone at a town hall (that was actually a written strategy)

here's the link to the memo

http://d35brb9zkkbdsd.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/townhallactionmemo.pdf

Dude show me all the tea party protest where people were burning cars, destroying businesses, setting fires and throwing stuff at cops.

Shouting down politicians something liberals now do is very different than the riots on the left since the election

[Straw Man]

Dude show me all the tea party protest where people were burning cars, destroying businesses, setting fires and throwing stuff at cops.

Shouting down politicians something liberals now do is very different than the riots on the left since the election

show me where that happened other than Berkeley and it was in response to that Milo fruitcake and Tranny Colter

Berkeley has a long history of that kind of shit

[tonymctones]

show me where that happened other than Berkeley and it was in response to that Milo fruitcake and Tranny Colter

Berkeley has a long history of that kind of shit

Are you kidding me bro? Where have you been? Seriously do you just only read and listen to shit you agree with?

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/donald-trump-1/2017/01/20/inauguration-protests-start-turn-violent-restaurant-windows-smashed

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/11/11/501685976/anti-trump-protest-in-portland-ore-turns-destructive-declared-a-riot

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/what-i-saw-at-the-anti-trump-riot-in-dc/article/2612548

That's just 2 or 3...plenty more

[tonymctones]

show me where that happened other than Berkeley and it was in response to that Milo fruitcake and Tranny Colter

Berkeley has a long history of that kind of shit

Serious question bro, do you have any close friends or loved ones who you talk to regularly that have opposing view points? You seem like you only hear the same opinions and views of your own.

[Straw Man]

Are you kidding me bro? Where have you been? Seriously do you just only read and listen to shit you agree with?

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/donald-trump-1/2017/01/20/inauguration-protests-start-turn-violent-restaurant-windows-smashed

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/11/11/501685976/anti-trump-protest-in-portland-ore-turns-destructive-declared-a-riot

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/what-i-saw-at-the-anti-trump-riot-in-dc/article/2612548

That's just 2 or 3...plenty more

Yeah, Republicans and TeaBaggers would never do anything like that

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/27738018/ns/us_news-life/t/obama-election-spurs-race-threats-crimes/

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-obama-hatecrimes-idUSTRE4AN81U20081124

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/305749-republicans-employ-double-standard-to-discredit

[tonymctones]

Berkeley has a long history of that kind of shit

Actually berkeley used to be very big on free speech supposedly considered the birthplace of free speech

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/04/20/berkeley-gave-birth-to-the-free-speech-movement-in-the-1960s-now-conservatives-are-demanding-it-include-them/?utm_term=.67d79665051e