Way too many divsions and classes at contests now

[Howard]

I attended a  good NPC last weekend in Chattanooga.
The promoter always does a great job and it was held in a classy theatre.

Problem is , he shows have waaaaaaaaaaaaay too many divisions now.
Why do you need a figure division for :
 woman between age 36-38 , B cup boobs and have 1-3 children? 

The worst aspect of this was all the crossovers. At least half the entrants in each
class were crossovers from an earlier class. This made watching very repetitive and boring.

WTF? Just have bodybuilding with some wt classes and a couple age divisions.
If they want figure or bikini , fine, but I see no need for all the sub-classes.

[ratherbebig]

how about no classes?

instead there can be a dj that plays 70's disco music

people would start dancing and all would have a good time

[wes]

Gotta` bring a cot and a pillow these days just to get to see the bodybuilding portion of the contests.   

[Howard]

Gotta` bring a cot and a pillow these days just to get to see the bodybuilding portion of the contests.   

LOL< good one. 

Hey Wes the  biggest number of BODYBUILDING entrants was in the over 50 and over 60 divisions!
Guys like us are the last of a dying breed.

[wes]

LOL< good one.  

Hey Wes the  biggest number of BODYBUILDING entrants was in the over 50 and over 60 divisions!
Guys like us are the last of a dying breed.

I`ve got "Dying Breed" tattooed on the back of my right hand........seriously bro!  

[Howard]

I`ve got "Dying Breed" tattooed on the back of my right hand........seriously bro!  

I'd like to see that. 100% serious.
You rock bro!

[Howard]

how about no classes?

instead there can be a dj that plays 70's disco music

people would start dancing and all would have a good time

Considering their  age was similar to Wes and I, '70's disco sounds about right 

[Shizzo]

I`ve got "Dying Breed" tattooed on the back of my right hand........seriously bro!  

It obviously hasn't worked yet.

[stuntmovie]

HOWARD / WES, There is no need to tell ya that all these divisions and all these age group contenders are helping the bottom line of the NPC and the IFBB.

Why would the officials ever decide to make an event smaller and cause the bottom line to drop considerably?

But it would be wise if the contest promoters did their best to let the paying public/fans know the approximate time that each event will be starting, so that you could arrive on time without a cot and a blanket.
Burt even then ... I would suggest you bring a couple of meals in a brown paper bag.

Believe it or not but back in the days when Wes was still in diapers, the some bodybuilding events would start around 2 AM after all the lifting trophies are handed out and accounted for.

That was just one of the major reasons why the AAU lost control to the NPC.

[Shizzo]

HOWARD / WES, There is no need to tell ya that all these divisions and all these age group contenders are helping the bottom line of the NPC and the IFBB.

Why would the officials ever decide to make an event smaller and cause the bottom line to drop considerably?

But it would be wise if the contest promoters did their best to let the paying public/fans know the approximate time that each event will be starting, so that you could arrive on time without a cot and a blanket.
Burt even then ... I would suggest you bring a couple of meals in a brown paper bag.

Believe it or not but back in the days when Wes was still in diapers, the some bodybuilding events would start around 2 AM after all the lifting trophies are handed out and accounted for.

That was just one of the major reasons why the AAU lost control to the NPC.

Speaking of death.....Hey stunt, do you have a clue on what went wrong with the new Mummy movie?

[The Scott]

Speaking of death.....Hey stunt, do you have a clue on what went wrong with the new Mummy movie?

I do. It was stooooooopid.

[judochoke]

heres whats happening. the promoter is printing money. 100 to enter, 100 for the spray tan, 100 to buy the npc card. guys entering two or three divisions, at 100 bucks a piece. lots of money is being made

[oldtimer1]

They would have empty seats if they didn't have all these sub contests. They are counting on friends and family of each contestant to fill the seats. Nobody has an interest in bodybuilding contests except the big ones.

[The Scott]

They would have empty seats if they didn't have all these sub contests. They are counting on friends and family of each contestant to fill the seats. Nobody has an interest in bodybuilding contests except the big ones.

Yup.  And those are the real schmoe and tell shows.

[stuntmovie]

SCOTT, To the best of my knowledge, Cruise has his own crew and I know none of them. so I can't give you any reliable, behind the scenes info.

And I have not see it, nor do I intend to do so.

But here is my own person opinion of why it's not doing well and I felt that it would not do well the moment I saw the prevues a few weeks before it was released.

It's story that has been filmed too many times which was most likely first written by Tut himself.

I suggested that they  hold the world premier on the side of the pyramid
similar to a drive in with the audience sitting on the family camel, but that suggestion got no further than 1st base.

But it would have gotten more publicity than at present.

[Shizzo]

SCOTT, To the best of my knowledge, Cruise has his own crew and I know none of them. so I can't give you any reliable, behind the scenes info.

And I have not see it, nor do I intend to do so.

But here is my own person opinion of why it's not doing well and I felt that it would not do well the moment I saw the prevues a few weeks before it was released.

It's story that has been filmed too many times which was most likely first written by Tut himself.

I suggested that they  hold the world premier on the side of the pyramid
similar to a drive in with the audience sitting on the family camel, but that suggestion got no further than 1st base.

But it would have gotten more publicity than at present.

Sounds like a solid AA speech.

[stuntmovie]

HOWARD, OldTImer said someplace above, " Nobody has an interest in bodybuilding contests except the big ones."

And I have no way to prove that he is wrong because I no longer drive to LA to see any of the less than "big ones", so I gotta rely on you to tell is if OldTimer is correct or not. ( I only attend the USA and the minor events at the Olympia with little interest in the Olympia contest itself.)

What percentage of the seats for each event in which you recently attended had fans sitting in them?

And I gotta assume that each event saw a turn over so that percentage would change in accordance with the interest attributed to each contest.

My guess is that the seats were sold 2 or 3 or possibly even 4 times due to the fact that most fans leave the auditorium after the event that they are invested in  is over and other fans then occupy those vacant seats.

Am I incorrect in saying that OldTimer is incorrect (politely stated of course) by saying that "Nobody has an interest in bodybuilding contests except the big ones." ?

I personally believe that these smaller events are drawing in more spectators than at any other time throughout the history of competitive bodybuilding.

Or am I too darn dumb to believe otherwise?

It's up to you to decide how dumb I am !!

Thanks and Semper Fi (but don't let that sway your answer!)

[Yanin]

Last npc show I went to the figure chick won, figure, bikini and overall lol. That's right she crossed over and won 2 separate classes

[phreak]

Powerlifting is even worse. By far the absolute worst offender there is NASA, a purportedly natural organisation. Their meet results are absurd... Split per gender, 7-8 age classes, 11 weight classes, equipped/unequipped/retro/powersports/bench-only/push-only/..., natty/lifelong natty (there seems to be a difference...), ...

People routinely win 3 first-place trophies with just 1 lift. These people (lifters and promoters) should be shot.

http://nasa-sports.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Natural-Nationals-February-11th-12th-2017.pdf

[Yanin]

I've seen the "natty category" lol I think if you've used within 5 years it catogorizes you as user. Lol

[Psychopath]

Typical Howard thread....so gay