Some pointers and random thoughts

[Simple Simon]

No need to use tren to get massive and lean. I personally don't use it, you can grow fine without it.

http://i.imgur.com/NNjZYy3.jpg

seems that the drugs you are using only work from the waist up, and all they do is bloat you with water

[dj181]

solid points brosef

how many days per week do you train

also, what's yyour max barbell curl

[Simple Simon]

solid points brosef

how many days per week do you train

also, what's yyour max barbell curl

grand 20 buck 71

[bigmc]

Flint looking like a beast in this thread

[Shizzo]

Flint looking like a beast in this thread

Agreed. Gossamer.

[Rascal full]

Do you train legs?

[FREAKgeek]

I personally eat whatever the hell I want and stay lean.

I stopped after that.

[Simple Simon]

I stopped after that.

I didnt read any of it, hes just a manic depressive on a high.

Next week he will be asking how to get a girlfriend.

[bigmc]

I didnt read any of it, hes just a manic depressive on a high.

Next week he will be asking how to get a girlfriend.

you dont think he has made dramatic improvements in his physique

[NelsonMuntz]

I didnt read any of it, hes just a manic depressive on a high.

Next week he will be asking how to get a girlfriend.

Its also pretty eye rolling to be taking advice from a 24 year old who has never trained seriously without the sauce and will weigh a skinny fat 150-160 lbs one day when he has to come off for some reason  ie health, wealth, legal, personal life, marriage, kids etc and all that eating what he wants and staying lean will be funny then

[FREAKgeek]

I agree with some of your points but less so with others. For instance, I think eating clean should be encouraged for the overall health benefits it provides even if it may not make much difference to your physique.

X100

Yesterday I ate donuts, cake, and had a few beers. Way out of character for me and felt like total ass. Calorie is a calorie my ass.

[Simple Simon]

X100

Yesterday I ate donuts, cake, and had a few beers. Way out of character for me and felt like total ass. Calorie is a calorie my ass.

If you look like shit year round then it doesnt matter what you eat...

[bigmc]

Its also pretty eye rolling to be taking advice from a 24 year old who has never trained seriously without the sauce and will weigh a skinny fat 150-160 lbs one day when he has to come off for some reason  ie health, wealth, legal, personal life, marriage, kids etc and all that eating what he wants and staying lean will be funny then

you could make that point about any body builder

its all genetics and drugs fact

[flinstones1]

Jeff is a hater

http://i.imgur.com/IqIWB1S.png

[Simple Simon]

Jeff is a hater

http://i.imgur.com/IqIWB1S.png

you never called me jeff before....

Legs like Douglas Bader and a noggin like Kovacs

[NelsonMuntz]

you never called me jeff before....

Legs like Douglas Bader and a noggin like Kovacs

[flinstones1]

solid points brosef

how many days per week do you train

also, what's yyour max barbell curl

I would train 5 days a week. ...never tried a max curl so I couldn't tell you ...strength correlates with size but it has to be done in the proper rep range so you have enough time under tension to grow. A common misconception in the bodybuilding world is that training heavy developes density when in reality fast twitch fibers  actually have a softer/doughy appearance. It's the high rep work that developed true hard muscle, heavy low rep  powerlifting work is just required so you  can get to a point where your high rep work can be done using massive weights.

[flinstones1]

The most growth occurs when a muscle is put in a pre stretched position. This is where the process of Sarcomerogenesis occurs, which is the formation of new sarcomeres within a muscle ...which can lead to increased growth. Deficit deadlifts , dumbell benches, heavy overhead extensions etc. I'm not a fan of short range movements for growth.

If you don't believe me start doing snatch grip deadlifts off a 4 inch platform for two weeks, you will probably gain weight. Things like hammer strength benches are shit because they don't allow a muscle to have enough TUT throughout the movement. Not saying they can't cause some growth but start thinking of lifting from a more scientific perspective and you can eliminate the uselsss sxcercises that cut into recovery. Too many guys fuck themselves out of growth with too much volume.

[Dave D]

The most growth occurs when a muscle is put in a pre stretched position. This is where the process of Sarcomerogenesis occurs, which is the formation of new sarcomeres within a muscle ...which can lead to increased growth. Deficit deadlifts , dumbell benches, heavy overhead extensions etc. I'm not a fan of short range movements for growth.

If you don't believe me start doing snatch grip deadlifts off a 4 inch platform for two weeks, you will probably gain weight.

What is a pre stretched position? I've never heard this terminology

[Rascal full]

Do you train legs? (second attempt)

[flinstones1]

What is a pre stretched position? I've never heard this terminology

Do a snatch grip  deadlift while standing on a 45lb plate. Your glutes and hamstrings are now in a presteetched position

[Simple Simon]

The most growth occurs when a muscle is put in a pre stretched position. This is where the process of Sarcomerogenesis occurs, which is the formation of new sarcomeres within a muscle ...which can lead to increased growth. Deficit deadlifts , dumbell benches, heavy overhead extensions etc. I'm not a fan of short range movements for growth.

If you don't believe me start doing snatch grip deadlifts off a 4 inch platform for two weeks, you will probably gain weight. Things like hammer strength benches are shit because they don't allow a muscle to have enough TUT throughout the movement.

So, it looks like this same pic is being used by enjoylife88 on promuscle. He has been a member since 2013 and asks the same beta questions as Flintstone, about relationships and women.  He posts pics of himself.that vary in physique, facial features, and skin tone just as he does on this board.  At this point, I think we can all agree that it is suspect that he has ever posted an authentic pic. 

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/peptides-growth-factors/121610-new-car-growth-hormone-im-22-a.html

[flinstones1]

Do you train legs? (second attempt)

Yes. Quads are about 25 cold. Obviously terrible For a guy with 19 inch arms but it's not like people laugh at me when I wear shorts either. I do need to bring them up tho, never really put in the effort I should of.

[Simple Simon]

Yes. Quads are about 25 cold. Obviously terrible For a guy with 19 inch arms but it's not like people laugh at me when I wear shorts either. I do need to bring them up tho, never really put in the effort I should of.

pics of said legs please

[Dave D]

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/peptides-growth-factors/121610-new-car-growth-hormone-im-22-a.html

Just another gimmick, definitely not the guy is the pictures . He could own all of us with one coffee mug pic.