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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #50 on: July 01, 2017, 10:34:00 AM »
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This story reminded me of one. In my nightclub security career, I worked a few black parties. Some of my coworkers were also black. By the end of the night I found myself actually having to console some of these guys because they were so embarrassed by the behavior of their own people. I specifically remember one huge 300 pound guy sitting in a corner literally shaking his head in dismay at the behavior he had witnessed.

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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #51 on: July 02, 2017, 02:52:28 AM »
Worst club I ever worked in Australia was in St Kilda, Melbourne. Full of young Irish lads, fights everywhere. Bouncer who worked there before me was hospitalized.

out of interest - which venue? I'm going to take a guess it was the elephant and wheelbarrow based on the amount of irish blokes there. I did it as a second job for close to 20 years. As far as st kilda goes, I've worked at the palace (back in the early to mid 90 when they had 'twister' there and before it was moved to the front room of the venue, I've also worked at the prince of wales and the greyhound. I've worked a bunch of other places around melbourne too. I got out of the industry around 2012 and am actually (in my mid 40s) going to go back to it, just picking up a fri/sat night because an old friend who is still in the industry has asked me to come and work with him again.

General comments - definitely bartenders and 'good' DJs are the ones having the most luck with the women, but it definitely helps you if you're a bouncer. I'm in all seriousness ugly enough to be (in the words of gunnery sargeant Hartman) 'a modern art masterpiece' and it definitely was the reason for a few of the relationships I've had over that time. I don't think it's so much due to any status symbol. nobody perceives you as a badarse (or badass for you US guys) - if anything working in that industry that long is a cry for help :) . My guess as to why it helps with hooking up with women is that you end up getting into conversations with them because they'll come up to you if they are bored, and in a sense the fact you are working there makes them feel like you aren't going to be the creep that tries to slip something into their drink or assault them or whatever, so in a sense it sort of gets you past the initial job interview phase of any conversation with them.

On the drugs side of things, I'd respectfully have to agree to disagree with the strategy mentioned by El Diablo Blanco of taking money from big dealers, or having any involvement in the drug trade at all. It's likely such endeavours could get you hurt because the last thing you want to do is give criminals, especially more organised (which really just means they have larger numbers) ones leverage over you. Not to mention you'll be in greater trouble (at lease it's the case in Aus) if you get a drug conviction and were working as a bouncer at the time. and  additionally not to mention, if one of the crew I worked with was accepting money from them, and then someone else in the crew got hurt when one of the 'official' dealers fucked up (as they inevitably will) and was thrown out and then the ones getting them out are descended upon by a big crew of them not knowing who to look out for) well the person in the crew that was taking the bribes would be the one taken to task for the other person on the crew getting hurt and it wouldn't go well for them.

As for war stories, sure I've got a few, some of which included known criminals here and there (but Melbourne isn't a big palce so that's not really saying that much) and a few injuries - including permanent brain damage (incased anyone is wondering what drew me to getbig forums in the first place :)   ) that thankfully doesn't have any impact on me of any significant degree (mostly my memory and in particular the way I process/remember/recall some visual images and colours) If anyone is considering doing it, try and avoid places that are supplied staff from a private company unless they have those staff on at that venue permanently and aren't constantly putting new/different people in there. Otherwise they never get to know the crowd and there will tend to be more dramas there in general as they don't build any rapport with the patrons. Most people are creatures of habit and tend to stick with regular venues (over time they come and go but tend to stick around for some time at least) and knowing them means they are actually far less likely to screw up there . And on the same topic, also get areally good 'take' or read or assessment (call it what you will) on the quality of the crew that works there. The right group of blokes will likely save your life and working with the wrong bunch can potentially cost you your life.


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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #52 on: July 02, 2017, 03:15:05 AM »
Very solid post from nobody in particular.

I would add that the reason bartenders do better than bouncers with the women is that part of a bartender's job is to interact with the people whereas a bouncer pretty much just stands around and looks for trouble.

I would also add that if you ever get an offer to work a black party, as either a bartender or a bouncer, don't take it.

It's not worth it.

They're are nasty, cheap, and the probability of violence is way higher.

At a place where I bartended, they had a Korean singles night. Everyone was cool and I made a lot of money in tips. The next week they had a birthday party for some ghetto rat. It was one of the worst experiences of my life.

Sorry, it's the truth.

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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #53 on: July 02, 2017, 04:00:03 AM »
out of interest - which venue? I'm going to take a guess it was the elephant and wheelbarrow based on the amount of irish blokes there. I did it as a second job for close to 20 years. As far as st kilda goes, I've worked at the palace (back in the early to mid 90 when they had 'twister' there and before it was moved to the front room of the venue, I've also worked at the prince of wales and the greyhound. I've worked a bunch of other places around melbourne too. I got out of the industry around 2012 and am actually (in my mid 40s) going to go back to it, just picking up a fri/sat night because an old friend who is still in the industry has asked me to come and work with him again.

General comments - definitely bartenders and 'good' DJs are the ones having the most luck with the women, but it definitely helps you if you're a bouncer. I'm in all seriousness ugly enough to be (in the words of gunnery sargeant Hartman) 'a modern art masterpiece' and it definitely was the reason for a few of the relationships I've had over that time. I don't think it's so much due to any status symbol. nobody perceives you as a badarse (or badass for you US guys) - if anything working in that industry that long is a cry for help :) . My guess as to why it helps with hooking up with women is that you end up getting into conversations with them because they'll come up to you if they are bored, and in a sense the fact you are working there makes them feel like you aren't going to be the creep that tries to slip something into their drink or assault them or whatever, so in a sense it sort of gets you past the initial job interview phase of any conversation with them.

On the drugs side of things, I'd respectfully have to agree to disagree with the strategy mentioned by El Diablo Blanco of taking money from big dealers, or having any involvement in the drug trade at all. It's likely such endeavours could get you hurt because the last thing you want to do is give criminals, especially more organised (which really just means they have larger numbers) ones leverage over you. Not to mention you'll be in greater trouble (at lease it's the case in Aus) if you get a drug conviction and were working as a bouncer at the time. and  additionally not to mention, if one of the crew I worked with was accepting money from them, and then someone else in the crew got hurt when one of the 'official' dealers fucked up (as they inevitably will) and was thrown out and then the ones getting them out are descended upon by a big crew of them not knowing who to look out for) well the person in the crew that was taking the bribes would be the one taken to task for the other person on the crew getting hurt and it wouldn't go well for them.

As for war stories, sure I've got a few, some of which included known criminals here and there (but Melbourne isn't a big palce so that's not really saying that much) and a few injuries - including permanent brain damage (incased anyone is wondering what drew me to getbig forums in the first place :)   ) that thankfully doesn't have any impact on me of any significant degree (mostly my memory and in particular the way I process/remember/recall some visual images and colours) If anyone is considering doing it, try and avoid places that are supplied staff from a private company unless they have those staff on at that venue permanently and aren't constantly putting new/different people in there. Otherwise they never get to know the crowd and there will tend to be more dramas there in general as they don't build any rapport with the patrons. Most people are creatures of habit and tend to stick with regular venues (over time they come and go but tend to stick around for some time at least) and knowing them means they are actually far less likely to screw up there . And on the same topic, also get areally good 'take' or read or assessment (call it what you will) on the quality of the crew that works there. The right group of blokes will likely save your life and working with the wrong bunch can potentially cost you your life.



About the drug thing. Every club I worked had guys we knew to leave alone. Usually there were a group of 2-4 per night. 1 or 2 guys would hold the money and 1-3 guys would hold the drugs. So if they got busted, they were never caught with drugs and money at the same time. It was never mentioned "officially" why, in case they got busted and we had to testify, but you figured it out anyways. Besides most the places I was were techno clubs where most people were on club drugs and not drinking... And if SD Vice showed up we knew to let certain people know so they could leave.

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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #54 on: July 02, 2017, 04:45:43 AM »
A place I worked at had a weed dealer who was always hanging out. One of his customers was the comedian Dave Chapelle. The dealer was always bitching to me about how Dave always owed him money.

When Chapelle got that multi million dollar Comedy Central deal, the first thing I wondered was whether he would finally pay his weed bill.

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« Reply #55 on: July 02, 2017, 11:15:07 AM »
About the drug thing. Every club I worked had guys we knew to leave alone. Usually there were a group of 2-4 per night. 1 or 2 guys would hold the money and 1-3 guys would hold the drugs. So if they got busted, they were never caught with drugs and money at the same time. It was never mentioned "officially" why, in case they got busted and we had to testify, but you figured it out anyways. Besides most the places I was were techno clubs where most people were on club drugs and not drinking... And if SD Vice showed up we knew to let certain people know so they could leave.

works from 5 am until 11pm personal training and still find time to work the doors...

we , he did say he cant sleep...

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« Reply #56 on: July 02, 2017, 11:31:55 AM »
The idiot manager booked another black party. I didn't want to work it, but he essentially begged me and I ended up being a good soldier. The waitresses there were all white coeds and wannabe actresses. I warned them it was going to be a nightmare and that they would be treated like shit and make no money. They were shocked that I could say something so politically incorrect, but by the end of the night they all told me how right I was.

I remember the manager had ordered a very wide variety of liquor: vodka, whiskey, gin, tequila etc. I told him it was a mistake and that all he needed to order was Hennessey.

About an hour into the party we were out of Hennessey and the manager had to go to another club and borrow some. At one point, I poured a bottle of cheap Brandy into an empty Hennessey bottle and served it to them. They didn't know the difference.



It's been a while since I worked in the industry but the stories are starting to come back.

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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #57 on: July 02, 2017, 12:34:14 PM »
works from 5 am until 11pm personal training and still find time to work the doors...

we , he did say he cant sleep...

You dumbfuck. You take everything I've done in my life and twist it around like a woman does and say I claim to do it all at the same time.

Maybe you're just fucking autistic. From your picture you actually do look up tistic with that big ass fucking forehead on that tiny little skull of yours with those tiny little eyes that are way too close together and cross-eyed you actually do look autistic or you have Asperger's Syndrome... maybe that's what you actually fucking believe that when I say I work the door and then I say I was personal training and working at a gym and running the gym from 5 a.m. till midnight and when I went to rehab and I ran a fundraising office for non-profit charities that your dumbass actually believes that I was doing all these things at the very same time. Is that it? You dumb mother fucker. I kind of think that is it I kind of think you really are that fucking dumb because I don't think you're dumb enough to believe people will believe your bullshit by claiming that I'm claiming I did all this shit at the same time you stupid mother fucker. I'm fucking amazed that the government in England allows adults with autism to have children... I know your kids are fucking autistic but I never actually considered the possibility that you had autism. Everything makes sense now

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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #58 on: July 02, 2017, 12:45:39 PM »
Black clubs almost invariably have a woman on the security staff. Why? So they have someone to frisk the women coming in.

Awhile ago,  I went to see a band at a NYC club called Terminal Five. As we got close to the entrance. I noticed that the security staff was frisking people. I wasn't surprised but my girlfriend at the time was shocked. She had never gone through anything like that at a concert. I explained to her that the club hosted a lot of black shows and they didn't want to appear racist by not frisking people at a predominately white show, even though it was obviously unnecessary.

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« Reply #59 on: July 02, 2017, 02:22:16 PM »
You dumbfuck. You take everything I've done in my life and twist it around like a woman does and say I claim to do it all at the same time.

Maybe you're just fucking autistic. From your picture you actually do look up tistic with that big ass fucking forehead on that tiny little skull of yours with those tiny little eyes that are way too close together and cross-eyed you actually do look autistic or you have Asperger's Syndrome... maybe that's what you actually fucking believe that when I say I work the door and then I say I was personal training and working at a gym and running the gym from 5 a.m. till midnight and when I went to rehab and I ran a fundraising office for non-profit charities that your dumbass actually believes that I was doing all these things at the very same time. Is that it? You dumb mother fucker. I kind of think that is it I kind of think you really are that fucking dumb because I don't think you're dumb enough to believe people will believe your bullshit by claiming that I'm claiming I did all this shit at the same time you stupid mother fucker. I'm fucking amazed that the government in England allows adults with autism to have children... I know your kids are fucking autistic but I never actually considered the possibility that you had autism. Everything makes sense now

sorry I forgot to mention all your charity work with young vulnerable kids.

Its standard to have ex stick up artists helping kids out.   ::)

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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #60 on: July 02, 2017, 02:30:48 PM »
You dumbfuck. You take everything I've done in my life and twist it around like a woman does and say I claim to do it all at the same time.

Maybe you're just fucking autistic. From your picture you actually do look up tistic with that big ass fucking forehead on that tiny little skull of yours with those tiny little eyes that are way too close together and cross-eyed you actually do look autistic or you have Asperger's Syndrome... maybe that's what you actually fucking believe that when I say I work the door and then I say I was personal training and working at a gym and running the gym from 5 a.m. till midnight and when I went to rehab and I ran a fundraising office for non-profit charities that your dumbass actually believes that I was doing all these things at the very same time. Is that it? You dumb mother fucker. I kind of think that is it I kind of think you really are that fucking dumb because I don't think you're dumb enough to believe people will believe your bullshit by claiming that I'm claiming I did all this shit at the same time you stupid mother fucker. I'm fucking amazed that the government in England allows adults with autism to have children... I know your kids are fucking autistic but I never actually considered the possibility that you had autism. Everything makes sense now

Another meltdown :o

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« Reply #61 on: July 02, 2017, 02:35:58 PM »
Another meltdown :o

thats exactly why it cant really be him, no ones dumb enough to keep up that shit naturally.

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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #62 on: July 02, 2017, 03:14:34 PM »
As small as I am,I worked the door off and on in a strip joint for years.

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« Reply #63 on: July 02, 2017, 03:17:51 PM »
As small as I am,I worked the door off and on in a strip joint for years.

what as a dildo?

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« Reply #64 on: July 02, 2017, 03:34:59 PM »
Another meltdown :o

Meltdown? Just pointing out the stupidity of that cross-eyed clown.

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« Reply #65 on: July 02, 2017, 03:36:11 PM »
Meltdown? Just pointing out the stupidity of that cross-eyed clown.

why are you pointing it out if you dont care?

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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #66 on: July 02, 2017, 03:43:18 PM »
what as a dildo?

Hahahahaha that's fucking great

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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #67 on: July 02, 2017, 03:44:21 PM »
why are you pointing it out if you dont care?

What do you contribute here? Besides being a nuisance to everybody whose only goal is to derail every thread you post in.

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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #68 on: July 02, 2017, 03:46:15 PM »
Lots of posting about posting in this thread.

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Re: Any of you bouncers or done bouncing?
« Reply #69 on: July 02, 2017, 03:48:34 PM »
Lots of posting about posting in this thread.

Wes could've at least had the decency to give us a story about banging a stripper.

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« Reply #70 on: July 02, 2017, 03:57:58 PM »
You dumbfuck. You take everything I've done in my life and twist it around like a woman does and say I claim to do it all at the same time.

Maybe you're just fucking autistic. From your picture you actually do look up tistic with that big ass fucking forehead on that tiny little skull of yours with those tiny little eyes that are way too close together and cross-eyed you actually do look autistic or you have Asperger's Syndrome... maybe that's what you actually fucking believe that when I say I work the door and then I say I was personal training and working at a gym and running the gym from 5 a.m. till midnight and when I went to rehab and I ran a fundraising office for non-profit charities that your dumbass actually believes that I was doing all these things at the very same time. Is that it? You dumb mother fucker. I kind of think that is it I kind of think you really are that fucking dumb because I don't think you're dumb enough to believe people will believe your bullshit by claiming that I'm claiming I did all this shit at the same time you stupid mother fucker. I'm fucking amazed that the government in England allows adults with autism to have children... I know your kids are fucking autistic but I never actually considered the possibility that you had autism. Everything makes sense now

Why you insulting the man's kids?

Seems he's at least raising his, as any real dad would. How about you, though? Any idea where yours are or who's raising 'em?

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« Reply #71 on: July 02, 2017, 04:20:57 PM »
Why you insulting the man's kids?

Seems he's at least raising his, as any real dad would. How about you, though? Any idea where yours are or who's raising 'em?

He's raising his kids while he's locked in his closet with his computer 100% of the time he's home and when he's not home he's bringing in a poverty level £19k a yr. Lol. .. And I know exactly where my kids are, were,& will be.

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« Reply #72 on: July 02, 2017, 04:29:45 PM »
He's raising his kids while he's locked in his closet with his computer 100% of the time he's home and when he's not home he's bringing in a poverty level £19k a yr. Lol. .. And I know exactly where my kids are, were,& will be.

His probably still live with him, though. You know, that silly, old-fashioned child-rearing gig. Seems he's stepped up.

No credit for that?

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« Reply #73 on: July 02, 2017, 04:39:36 PM »
His probably still live with him, though. You know, that silly, old-fashioned child-rearing gig. Seems he's stepped up.

No credit for that?

Look at him and how he behaves. You think a 53yd old man like that is a father figure? Could you imagine your own father behaving like that? Lol embarrassing

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« Reply #74 on: July 02, 2017, 04:59:09 PM »
Look at him and how he behaves. You think a 53yd old man like that is a father figure? Could you imagine your own father behaving like that? Lol embarrassing

Depends. Do you act like this in real life?