GOP senate healthcare bill has 17% approval with US voters

[Howard]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-majority-disapprove-of-senate-health-care-bill/

I've seen polls range from 12% to 27%, and it's clear this is NOT popular with the avg voter.

I can't see how this bill helps cover more people or lowers costs for most workers?

[Coach is Back!]

It could be at fuckkng zero and still better than oshitcare that was intentionally and completely designed to fail to make wave for a single payer system. Who cares what it's at right now. At least they're going back over and over until they get it right unlike Obamacare when it was voted on while on recess, without a republican vote while coercing Roberts.

[Howard]

It could be at fuckkng zero and still better than oshitcare that was intentionally and completely designed to fail to make wave for a single payer system. Who cares what it's at right now. At least they're going back over and over until they get it right unlike Obamacare when it was voted on while on recess, without a republican vote while coercing Roberts.

Ok, we agree that the current "Obamacare" has some problems.
Question: How exactly does this new GOP health care plan help
avg working guys (like us?)

[Howard]

Question for anyone.
How does this new senate healthcare bill provide more/better coverage for less cost?

[Coach is Back!]

Question for anyone.
How does this new senate healthcare bill provide more/better coverage for less cost?

Because of competition Howard.

[LurkerNoMore]

It could be at fuckkng zero and still better than oshitcare that was intentionally and completely designed to fail to make wave for a single payer system. Who cares what it's at right now. At least they're going back over and over until they get it right unlike Obamacare when it was voted on while on recess, without a republican vote while coercing Roberts.

 

[Howard]

Because of competition Howard.

Yes, that's a real issue, but I don't know what's in the current bill in that regard.
Why do you think the CBO score indicates the last 2 proposed bills were worse then Obamacare?

[Coach is Back!]

http://www.redstate.com/diary/brian_d/2010/02/28/lying-and-cheating-to-pass-obamacare/

[Coach is Back!]

Yes, that's a real issue, but I don't know what's in the current bill in that regard.
Why do you think the CBO score indicates the last 2 proposed bills were worse then Obamacare?

The CBO is known to be extremely inaccurate when it comes to healthcare. The current one states that premiums would be reduced by 30% but 22mil uninsured by I think 2026.

[Howard]

The CBO is known to be extremely inaccurate when it comes to healthcare. The current one states that premiums would be reduced by 30% but 22mil uninsured by I think 2026.

Hmmmmm? Interesting info there.
I suspect the hard truth is, not everyone gets covered if you want lower rates.
I can live with that, but it's a tough sell for congress.

Hey I just posted a thread where I explain how VP Pence could
best work with Trump to get a new healthcare bill passed.
Check it out and let me know what you think.

[LurkerNoMore]

http://www.redstate.com/diary/brian_d/2010/02/28/lying-and-cheating-to-pass-obamacare/

What part of this disputes what I posted?

[AbrahamG]

What part of this disputes what I posted?

Is this a trick question?  Because the answer is nothing disputes what you posted. 

[LurkerNoMore]

Is this a trick question?  Because the answer is nothing disputes what you posted. 

Exactly.  But I like to humor myself at times and get a glimpse of the La La Land Coach dwells in where simple questions appear to be quantum physics to him.

[Coach is Back!]

Exactly.  But I like to humor myself at times and get a glimpse of the La La Land Coach dwells in where simple questions appear to be quantum physics to him.

I see. So based on your tweet from a comedian (or anyone from the left comedian or otherwise) you actually think it was on the up and up? Hahahahahaha.

Nothing and I mean NOTHING the left does is anywhere close to legit. lmao

[Soul Crusher]

I see. So based on your tweet from a comedian (or anyone from the left comedian or otherwise) you actually think it was on the up and up? Hahahahahaha.

Nothing and I mean NOTHING the left does is anywhere close to legit. lmao

I hate the GOP bill too - its sucks ass.   Just repeal ObamaCare  and allow insurance across state lines. 

[Howard]

I hate the GOP bill too - its sucks ass.   Just repeal ObamaCare  and allow insurance across state lines. 

If only it was that simple, it's not 

The reality is , "repeal only" would result in total chaos and free fall for the health insurance  markets.
Without a firm, binding law from the federal GOV, nobody would want to underwrite most policies.
THEN, we'd have a free fall in heath care similar to what occurred with mortgages in 2007.
Not good

[Coach is Back!]

I hate the GOP bill too - its sucks ass.   Just repeal ObamaCare  and allow insurance across state lines. 

I don't care how often they have to go back to get it right. Just get it right. Forget the criticisms from the left and everyone else, go back over and over again until it's right.

[Howard]

I don't care how often they have to go back to get it right. Just get it right. Forget the criticisms from the left and everyone else, go back over and over again until it's right.

Bingo!

[LurkerNoMore]

I see. So based on your tweet from a comedian (or anyone from the left comedian or otherwise) you actually think it was on the up and up? Hahahahahaha.

Nothing and I mean NOTHING the left does is anywhere close to legit. lmao

Yet this dispels none of the facts contained in that post.  Surely if it were that ridiculous, you could post evidence otherwise.  Since you haven't and can't, we will let that stand on it's own.

[Soul Crusher]

I don't care how often they have to go back to get it right. Just get it right. Forget the criticisms from the left and everyone else, go back over and over again until it's right.

Yup

[Yamcha]

[Howard]

When nobody can pilot the plane, EVERYONE on board crashes.

[Conker]

healthcare in the US is an issue exactly the same as gun crime. you can all see how the rest of the developed world does it better, but you'd prefer to close your eyes and pretend you can't see. 

[mazrim]

healthcare in the US is an issue exactly the same as gun crime. you can all see how the rest of the developed world does it better, but you'd prefer to close your eyes and pretend you can't see. 

Jealousy is strong with this one. You would love for us to sink down to your level so that your words might actually have some meaning.

Until then, your head has been bashed in so many times on the gun issue that you posting once again on that is simply a constant reminder of your dense nature.

Socialized medicine/single payer is terrible. You are still in the gutter if your country supports that.

[Conker]

Jealousy is strong with this one. You would love for us to sink down to your level so that your words might actually have some meaning.

Until then, your head has been bashed in so many times on the gun issue that you posting once again on that is simply a constant reminder of your dense nature.

Socialized medicine/single payer is terrible. You are still in the gutter if your country supports that.

lol please tell me you're trolling !

you have a murder rate around 5 x higher than the rest of the developed world...the gun thing is not even debatable.

even though you spend nearly double the gdp on healthcare than most of europe, your healthcare system is still ranked below the vast majority of developed countries and you also have a lower life expectancy than most of the developed world!

who wouldn't be jealous of a country where you're 5 x times more likely to be murdered(most likely by gun) , live a shorter life and have a shtty healthcare system that is extortionately expensive!  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization_ranking_of_health_systems_in_2000
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.TOTL.ZS