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Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« on: July 13, 2017, 07:20:59 AM »
What is this exercise that I see everyone doing at the gym? Legs are bent, butt sticking out, kettleball is then swung between legs and over head in a repetitious manor. What is this working? Isn't the momentum of the swing negating any muscle tension? IDK, I'm seeing people in both my gyms doing it.
There was like 7 people in a line facing the mirror doing it. Looked like one of those metal guys that swing back and fourth on your office desk. Very weird.



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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2017, 07:23:45 AM »
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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2017, 07:25:15 AM »
Those crossfit hipsters call it 'training your working capacity', without too much thinking on which muscles are involved

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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2017, 07:34:08 AM »
What is this exercise that I see everyone doing at the gym? Legs are bent, butt sticking out, kettleball is then swung between legs and over head in a repetitious manor. What is this working? Isn't the momentum of the swing negating any muscle tension? IDK, I'm seeing people in both my gyms doing it.
There was like 7 people in a line facing the mirror doing it. Looked like one of those metal guys that swing back and fourth on your office desk. Very weird.



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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2017, 07:43:16 AM »
Those crossfit hipsters call it 'training your working capacity', without too much thinking on which muscles are involved

SOF athletes use this too, not just crossfag bearded latte drinking pink socks hipsters.

Part of a stamina plan following the strength portion of the workout was:

100 one arm KB swings per arm
100 one leg box squat per leg
100 close push ups.

It's a different style of training, but after 5 weeks, I've found it very effective.   Definitely thought was put in to what muscles were used/taxed, as it's part of an overall plan.

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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2017, 08:00:27 AM »
SOF athletes use this too, not just crossfag bearded latte drinking pink socks hipsters.

Part of a stamina plan following the strength portion of the workout was:

100 one arm KB swings per arm
100 one leg box squat per leg
100 close push ups.

It's a different style of training, but after 5 weeks, I've found it very effective.   Definitely thought was put in to what muscles were used/taxed, as it's part of an overall plan.

When it comes to building stamina, I would not def not argue about the effectiveness of such a protocol. My main concern is that most these schedules are performed with a time limit. As a result you often see piss poor execution. I recently heard an anecdote from a chiropractor, who was financially pleased with his crossfit clients.

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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2017, 08:22:19 AM »
What are these exercises called? I really cringe when I think of the shoulders getting slammed like that. I mean the constant swinging. Lot of wear and tear on the shoulder joint.

Chaos you're a kettle ball dude, what is this exercise?




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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2017, 08:31:33 AM »
What is this exercise that I see everyone doing at the gym? Legs are bent, butt sticking out, kettleball is then swung between legs and over head in a repetitious manor. What is this working? Isn't the momentum of the swing negating any muscle tension? IDK, I'm seeing people in both my gyms doing it.
There was like 7 people in a line facing the mirror doing it. Looked like one of those metal guys that swing back and fourth on your office desk. Very weird.



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you mean a kettlebell swing? it's a hip hinge movement.

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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2017, 08:32:20 AM »
What are these exercises called? I really cringe when I think of the shoulders getting slammed like that. I mean the constant swinging. Lot of wear and tear on the shoulder joint.

Chaos you're a kettle ball dude, what is this exercise?




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shoulder joint? your shoulder are in a fixed position, your arms are locked. it's all hips\glutes

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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2017, 08:58:19 AM »
What are these exercises called? I really cringe when I think of the shoulders getting slammed like that. I mean the constant swinging. Lot of wear and tear on the shoulder joint.

Chaos you're a kettle ball dude, what is this exercise?




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Isn't it time this shitty gimmick was put out of its misery?

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« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2017, 10:03:18 AM »
When it comes to building stamina, I would not def not argue about the effectiveness of such a protocol. My main concern is that most these schedules are performed with a time limit. As a result you often see piss poor execution. I recently heard an anecdote from a chiropractor, who was financially pleased with his crossfit clients.

I agree - especially with technique olympic type lifts....I think this is dangerous.....heck I think crossfit is dangerous and stupid.

But all this stuff gets lumped into "crossfit", when it should not.....I was just making a distinction.
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« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2017, 10:35:44 AM »
The power from a kettle bell swing is generated in gluteus/hips. Ppl are making it ineffective for the hips involving overhead shoulder movement when they raise there arms past 90. This is dangerous for your back when lowering the weight due to increased downward momentum and going back into a true hip hinge swing , but these idiots are bending the knees and also doing some crappy pseudo hinge-squat. So they don't use enough weight and aren't using enough of their hips for stimulation. It's like using the same weight and doing a bicep curl then right into a shldr press, neither muscle is getting enough stimulation

So the whole thing is garbage and shouldn't be considered a kb swing.

But Real swings with decent weight where you aren't raising arms overhead or bending knees past 15degrees are great for conditioning

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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2017, 10:40:02 AM »
shoulder joint? your shoulder are in a fixed position, your arms are locked. it's all hips\glutes

Their legs are bent and spread. Arms are kept straight and they swing from underneath to over head. The women in the gym are sticking their asses out like its suppose to be a butt exercise. I've never seen this exercise before but lately I'm seeing all these variations and weird things being done.
I have had two shoulder operations and a torn bicep fix. For the life of me I can't see what this is doing that a better exercise can't.



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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2017, 10:51:11 AM »
Their legs are bent and spread. Arms are kept straight and they swing from underneath to over head. The women in the gym are sticking their asses out like its suppose to be a butt exercise. I've never seen this exercise before but lately I'm seeing all these variations and weird things being done.
I have had two shoulder operations and a torn bicep fix. For the life of me I can't see what this is doing that a better exercise can't.



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you mean a kettlebell snatch?

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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2017, 12:11:31 PM »
Swing exercises have been around forever, whether it be kettlebell, dumbbell, or the old swingbell -

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I personally liked the short range version used by throwers and the Highland Games fellas -

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The kettle versions always struck me as more of a endurance / aerobic thing.

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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2017, 01:04:21 PM »
I agree - especially with technique olympic type lifts....I think this is dangerous.....heck I think crossfit is dangerous and stupid.

But all this stuff gets lumped into "crossfit", when it should not.....I was just making a distinction.

That's a good point. When you want to built stamina it's prob better to perform simple movements like push ups, jumping jacks, rope work, sledge pulling/pushing, ect.

My gym has recently bought a Torque Fitness Tank, which is nice for some HITT work.


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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2017, 02:01:27 PM »
Looks pretty stupid when I see trainers having frail elders do it or anyone really.Looks like it's shoulder damaging to me.

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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2017, 02:22:45 PM »
That's a good point. When you want to built stamina it's prob better to perform simple movements like push ups, jumping jacks, rope work, sledge pulling/pushing, ect.

My gym has recently bought a Torque Fitness Tank, which is nice for some HITT work.



I've used that thing, it's an absolute beast.  It's has magnets that resist the harder you push.

All that stuff you listed is in the stamina plan I'm doing.   Nobody cares, but check out soflete.com if you are interested - these guys know their shit.
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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2017, 03:51:29 PM »
That's a good point. When you want to built stamina it's prob better to perform simple movements like push ups, jumping jacks, rope work, sledge pulling/pushing, ect.

My gym has recently bought a Torque Fitness Tank, which is nice for some HITT work.



why not just get a side job on saturdays pushing a wheelbarrow or lawnmower lol?
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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2017, 04:12:31 PM »
why not just get a side job on saturdays pushing a wheelbarrow or lawnmower lol?

I've 'played' with it a couple of times, but I prefer low intensity outdoor cardio like walking/hiking & cycling much more. About 100 meters from my gym there's a huge park, so I often take a nice walk after my workout. 

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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2017, 04:24:52 PM »
Swing exercises have been around forever, whether it be kettlebell, dumbbell, or the old swingbell -

.

I personally liked the short range version used by throwers and the Highland Games fellas -

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The kettle versions always struck me as more of a endurance / aerobic thing.

This is it. Now what is this working? The core? WTF...my shoulders and back scream watching this crap.





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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2017, 06:56:58 PM »
If you are going to use speed (power) you better be in a good position as in Olympic lifting. Swinging a bell between your legs just seems to be an injury waiting to happen.

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« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2017, 08:10:33 PM »
If you are going to use speed (power) you better be in a good position as in Olympic lifting. Swinging a bell between your legs just seems to be an injury waiting to happen.

I disagree.....it's a hip hinge combined with a front raise.

Doesn't feel dangerous at all.
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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2017, 03:48:15 AM »
I've 'played' with it a couple of times, but I prefer low intensity outdoor cardio like walking/hiking & cycling much more. About 100 meters from my gym there's a huge park, so I often take a nice walk after my workout. 

low intensity cardio is for old ladies and pussies,  strive to get ULTRA FIT chief

and grape, that circuit you posted looks great, metabolic conditioning at its best

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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2017, 04:00:37 AM »
If you are going to use speed (power) you better be in a good position as in Olympic lifting. Swinging a bell between your legs just seems to be an injury waiting to happen.
if your mechanics suck, if your posture is shit, if u have no core strength, if u have no clue how to hinge properly, then yes dangerous-this also applies to Olympic lifting
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