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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #50 on: July 15, 2017, 08:15:38 AM »
POWER CLEAN 》》》》》》》》》》queen bait swing

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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #51 on: July 15, 2017, 08:27:15 AM »
POWER CLEAN 》》》》》》》》》》queen bait swing

both should be utilized, they're not substitutes for each other
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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #52 on: July 15, 2017, 08:28:42 AM »
POWER CLEAN 》》》》》》》》》》queen bait swing

At 200 reps,they're using the exercise for conditioning. So it's an apples to oranges comparison. However, if we're talking about power, it's not even close. Power cleans and sumo deadlifts destroy kettle bell swings.

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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #53 on: July 15, 2017, 08:33:58 AM »
Not sure what you're challenging.

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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #54 on: July 15, 2017, 08:41:46 AM »
At 200 reps,they're using the exercise for conditioning. So it's an apples to oranges comparison. However, if we're talking about power, it's not even close. Power cleans and sumo deadlifts destroy kettle bell swings.

yep yep

I've sen some boxing training gods of dudes doing deads with the hex bar with rubber bands round this waists,  that looks pretty cool

but in my case I don't want to gain anymore muscle weight, in fact I'd like to lose a bit and develop a tremendous weight to peer ratio

that would be damn cool   8)

also I'd still like to snatch out the strick curl world record

I can do it in a he rawpowerlifting fed but I noticed the ipf has a same day weigh in so I wouldn't be able to drop 20 pounds in that fucking case  >:(

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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #55 on: July 15, 2017, 08:44:52 AM »
At 200 reps,they're using the exercise for conditioning. So it's an apples to oranges comparison. However, if we're talking about power, it's not even close. Power cleans and sumo deadlifts destroy kettle bell swings.

Of course.

Did use power cleans for conditioning last night though...thought it was odd, as that's more of a dumbass crossfitty thing.
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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #56 on: July 15, 2017, 08:55:14 AM »
Of course.

Did use power cleans for conditioning last night though...thought it was odd, as that's more of a dumbass crossfitty thing.

I'm just a big advocate of the sumo deadlift. It's a great all-around strength and power movement. particularly for hitting the spinal erectors, a muscle group I've come to appreciate more in my advanced age. When you're young, you don't think about them much because they're not  "show muscles." However, from a structural integrity standpoint, you can make a case that there's no group more important.

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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #57 on: July 15, 2017, 09:02:16 AM »
I'm just a big advocate of the sumo deadlift. It's a great all-around strength and power movement. particularly for hitting the spinal erectors, a muscle group I've come to appreciate more in my advanced age. When you're young, you don't think about them much because they're not  "show muscles." However, from a structural integrity standpoint, you can make a case that there's no group more important.


I agree.  I'm learning that muscle group translates to almost everything.

I've done sumos in the past, but lately do all deadlifting using a hex bar......I just feel it's a safer option at this point.
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Re: Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?
« Reply #58 on: July 15, 2017, 02:41:08 PM »
You're not taking the interior adult completely out of the movement but you're also not using the front delt to raise the Kettlebell. You're using your hips and glutes and hamstrings and all that shit to to generate force and momentum to get that kettlebell in one nice smooth movement. The moment you start using her interior delts or even medial delts and traps to get that in kettlebell up there the movement becomes kind of herky-jerky and is easy to spot.

The kettlebell swing is not meant to be a replacement for a squat or deadlift. If I wanted to replicate Ascot with the Kettlebell I would just do a goblet squat holding the Kettlebell with both hands Palms facing up with the Kettlebell at the top of your chest squatting down and right back up. Holding the Kettlebell this way forces or at least it helps reinforce your body position to be proper in the squad if the Kettlebell isn't held in the proper position at the top of the chest the squad would end up looking like a whip orb" ? " (question mark) snapping into an " ! "@ the top of the movement... For these I would usually do 20 seconds of kettlebell or goblet-squat only, Falling by 20 seconds of kettlebell squat press at which the top of the movement you press the Kettlebell overhead while being mindful of keeping your elbows in front of your body during the Press portion of the movement as well as on the way back down. While we're on the subject of kettlebells I would usually follow that up with something like a kettlebell upright row for 20 seconds again, followed by a kettlebell sumo squat with legs wide and feed straight foeward while holding the Kettlebell down by yer nuts. You upper body remains upright and neutral while you squat down the mindful to keep your knees pushed out and feed straight. If you get low enough you may have to cuddle Bell on the floor at which point you come back up from the squad and move directly into an upright row in one smooth fluid motion and not breaking it down into segments and all herky-jerky. and then from there I would probably move into a single arm cross body kettlebell hip hinge again probably 20 seconds per leg on the first one followed write up with a 15-second pearl egg series

Lol@ pearl egg series.. Haha no clue what that was supposed to mean. Voice text typos lol