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Re: Man Of Steel gets new Ink
« Reply #50 on: July 16, 2017, 07:48:51 PM »
I can't hate something that I do not believe in. I am not an atheist either.

Willful suppression of the reality of God that you know is real and masquerading that as casual disbelief is hatred of God....it's also woefully transparent.

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Re: Man Of Steel gets new Ink
« Reply #51 on: July 16, 2017, 07:51:43 PM »
It's Yin and Yang. I find ignorance in people who talk in absolutes. MOS talks like he is God's bodyguard at club Heaven.

Translation: I answer your questions quickly and easily and that's annoying to you because your quips that normally work to confuse and belittle the unprepared believer don't work at all.  I have gotten these same comments many times before.

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« Reply #52 on: July 16, 2017, 07:56:25 PM »
Translation: I answer your questions quickly and easily and that's annoying to you because your quips that normally work to confuse and belittle the unprepared believer don't work at all.
You are not enlightened, MOS. You are no better then I am as a human being.

Your problem is your arrogance. Not directly, but subtlety in the way that you talk down to non believers. You don't even realize that you do it.

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Re: Man Of Steel gets new Ink
« Reply #53 on: July 16, 2017, 08:03:56 PM »
You are not enlightened, MOS. You are no better then I am as a human being.

Your problem is your arrogance. Not directly, but subtlety in the way that you talk down to non believers. You don't even realize that you do it.

You're right.  As a human being I am neither enlightened nor better than you.  But in Christ I am better off.

I understand that I'm a nightmare for the coffee house atheist and generic God hater....because I answer questions and you recoil and call that arrogance.  Yet never regard your initiation of attack in the same way.....childish double standard but God haters aren't typically known for consistency.

If you're afraid of the answer don't call me out with questions and ill intentioned comments.  No I fully get why a God hater would be annoyed and resort to claims of arrogance by a confident believer.

You'll  now reply with "there was no attack....I'm seeking dialogue and truth".  ::)

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« Reply #54 on: July 16, 2017, 08:08:42 PM »
You're right.  As a human being I am neither enlightened nor better than you.  But in Christ I am better off.

I understand that I'm a nightmare for the coffee house atheist....because I answer questions and you recoil and call that arrogance.  Yet never regard your initiation of attack in the same way.....childish double standard but God haters aren't typically known for consistency.

If you're afraid of the answer don't call me out with questions and ill intentioned comments.  No I fully get why a God hater would be annoyed and resort to claims of arrogance by a confident believer.
I am not an atheist. I do not believe in organized religion, or any God made from a book. A smart man would admit that he has no idea of what truly awaits us. It could be nothing, or it could be everything. You do not have the answer to that, MOS. You think you do, and that is what makes you arrogant.

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Re: Man Of Steel gets new Ink
« Reply #55 on: July 16, 2017, 08:17:24 PM »
I am not an atheist. I do not believe in organized religion, or any God made from a book. A smart man would admit that he has no idea of what truly awaits us. It could be nothing, or it could be everything. You do not have the answer to that, MOS. You think you do, and that is what makes you arrogant.

Ready.  Here's the answer.  I know exactly what is going to happen after death.  Why?  I have had supernatural experience with the God of the bible.  I have experienced and know God.  When you experience the source of scripture you know with confidence the validity of scripture.  Why did I have special revelation from God?  Because I surrendered to his will and came to him on his terms as outlined in scripture.

You've never done that and therefore your position is grounded in willful ignorance....that position HATES confident belief.

I've just given you the exact map to understanding humanity's greatest mystery.....and you'll go right back to denial and suppression and never once entertain what I've said for years.  You'll call me an ignorant fool and never in this life grasp the irony.

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« Reply #56 on: July 16, 2017, 08:20:48 PM »
isn't the fucken nail supposed to by in the palm of his hand?

No, the wrist, if in hand then it wouldn't help to hold a body up. Also, a certain part of the feet were used, but they did it with one big nail to hold weight.  Basically, the Romans seemed to have perfected things of this sort back in the day.


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« Reply #57 on: July 16, 2017, 08:23:14 PM »
No, the wrist, if in hand then it wouldn't help to hold a body up. Also, a certain part of the feet were used, but they did it with one big nail to hold weight.  Basically, the Romans seemed to have perfected things of this sort back in the day.



Exactly.  Wrist was also considered as part of the hand.

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« Reply #58 on: July 17, 2017, 01:01:07 AM »
Ready.  Here's the answer.  I know exactly what is going to happen after death.  Why?  I have had supernatural experience with the God of the bible.  I have experienced and know God.  When you experience the source of scripture you know with confidence the validity of scripture.  Why did I have special revelation from God?  Because I surrendered to his will and came to him on his terms as outlined in scripture.

You've never done that and therefore your position is grounded in willful ignorance....that position HATES confident belief.

I've just given you the exact map to understanding humanity's greatest mystery.....and you'll go right back to denial and suppression and never once entertain what I've said for years.  You'll call me an ignorant fool and never in this life grasp the irony.

did you see him in your vision, if so what did he look like?

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« Reply #59 on: July 17, 2017, 02:07:25 AM »
Jesus wouldn't have had long hair like a woman....that's an Italian renaissance interpretation...cool visual though.....never seen ink like that.


Yes, that image of Jesus is possibly modeled on Cesare Borgia whose father was a Pope at the time of Da Vinci and Machiavelli.

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« Reply #60 on: July 17, 2017, 04:37:31 AM »
Jesus wouldn't have had long hair like a woman....that's an Italian renaissance interpretation...cool visual though.....never seen ink like that.

He probably did. Him being homeless and all. He probably didn't get a regular barber visit. Of course we can't know for certain either way. What's more, it doesn't matter if he did have long hair. For a man to have  long hair was only considered a shame because in 55 A.D., in the land of Corinth, the pervert, sexual offender males had long hair. It would be like me writing a letter to someone today saying "Do you not know that it is a shame to wear and orange jumpsuit?" (referring to becoming a convict), and then other people in a different context, thousands of years from now thinking that wearing an orange jumpsuit is somehow sinful.

No, if long hair on a man were a problem you wouldn't have seen it on Jesus, Moses, John the Baptist, Samson, and all the other thousands of Nazarite men.

Judge not, lest you be judged. I damn sure wouldn't want to be judged over a haircut.

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« Reply #61 on: July 17, 2017, 04:42:52 AM »
Why?  I have had supernatural experience with the God of the bible.  I have experienced and know God.  When you experience the source of scripture you know with confidence the validity of scripture.  Why did I have special revelation from God?  Because I surrendered to his will and came to him on his terms as outlined in scripture.


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« Reply #62 on: July 17, 2017, 05:34:39 AM »
For anyone that claims Jesus wouldn't have been white, or wouldn't have had that hair, what do you base these assertions on?

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« Reply #63 on: July 17, 2017, 08:37:34 AM »
did you see him in your vision, if so what did he look like?

Wasn't a vision...more powerful than that.   Changed me instantly to my core.  Tangible presence of God.

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« Reply #64 on: July 17, 2017, 08:47:10 AM »
For anyone that claims Jesus wouldn't have been white, or wouldn't have had that hair, what do you base these assertions on?

scripture and history

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« Reply #65 on: July 17, 2017, 08:57:52 AM »
For anyone that claims Jesus wouldn't have been white, or wouldn't have had that hair, what do you base these assertions on?
What do you define as white? Jesus was born in the middle east, over 2,000 years ago. The hair length question is actually fascinating.

I have seen pics/paintings of Jesus with all lengths of hair. But you also have to include the beard in the discussion. Why is Jesus usually depicted as light-skinned, with long, straight hair, and a beard? Just another reason to speculate.

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« Reply #66 on: July 17, 2017, 09:51:02 AM »
Wasn't a vision...more powerful than that.   Changed me instantly to my core.  Tangible presence of God.

An illustration of what Jesus Christ did for MOS:


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« Reply #67 on: July 17, 2017, 10:56:07 AM »
An illustration of what Jesus Christ did for MOS:



My brother in Christ loco absolutely nailed it!!

I will NEVER view this scene the same again!  He's exactly right.....was at war with myself and in Christ I put that old, bad man to death!  Praise God!!

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« Reply #68 on: July 17, 2017, 10:59:38 AM »
I too just had a vision. They are called eyes.

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« Reply #69 on: July 17, 2017, 11:01:47 AM »
I too just had a vision. They are called eyes.

I can see the lean towards "MOS had a vision" is slowly building steam.....not what I said.  Someone else said that.

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« Reply #70 on: July 17, 2017, 11:20:38 AM »
What do you define as white? Jesus was born in the middle east, over 2,000 years ago. The hair length question is actually fascinating.

I have seen pics/paintings of Jesus with all lengths of hair. But you also have to include the beard in the discussion. Why is Jesus usually depicted as light-skinned, with long, straight hair, and a beard? Just another reason to speculate.

I don't understand the significance of him supposedly being born in the middle east?

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« Reply #72 on: July 17, 2017, 01:10:56 PM »
I can tell many of you are bored right now.

what did you think about Spider-man: Homecoming?

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« Reply #73 on: July 17, 2017, 01:31:53 PM »
what did you think about Spider-man: Homecoming?

Loved it....Tom Holland is an excellent Spidey and Michael Keaton was awesome as Vulture....dark, dark!

Although, I still love Raimi's SM2 with Toby Macquire a bit more.

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« Reply #74 on: July 17, 2017, 01:56:13 PM »
Loved it....Tom Holland is an excellent Spidey and Michael Keaton was awesome as Vulture....dark, dark!

Although, I still love Raimi's SM2 with Toby Macquire a bit more.

I loved it too. Michael Keaton was AMAZING! I gotta say though,that I don't feel super compelled to see it a third time (I went a second time with some of my kids) It really is more of an origin story in tone, and I'm a bit burnt out on those.