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Re: Trump just banned Transgenders from the military
« Reply #75 on: July 27, 2017, 07:03:33 AM »
What does what he said have anything to do with the method with which Trump used to divulge this policy change?

I too, read that the decision was made on financial reasons.  That isn't a ramble.  It certainly makes sense.

Additionally, I assumed that it was active only for entries, not for currently serving, too.  Is that not the case?


They are United States Soldiers....and there actually is no financial case...more bullshit.  In any event, if you respect the troops, you handle it the right way.  Putting this on Twitter is insulting to those serving our country...including you


And no they are all going to be discharged if it goes the way Trump wants it
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Re: Trump just banned Transgenders from the military
« Reply #76 on: July 27, 2017, 07:25:40 AM »
Couldn't he have just said the gov won't fund gender reassignment but they are still okay to serve in the military?

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Re: Trump just banned Transgenders from the military
« Reply #77 on: July 27, 2017, 08:28:12 AM »
Sorry, I have yet to read all of the above, but before I forget .... Here's a simple solution.

I receive medical coverage via the Veteran's Administration. That covers toenails to headaches and everything in between ..... but NOT DENTAL unless my teeth got knocked out by a hand grenade or cracked on a John Wayne biscuit,  or some other military related catastrophe (most of which I have not experienced cause I can run pretty fast.)

So it would be a simple matter to just NEGATE and REFUSE any form of  VA medical coverage for anything and everything related to Transgender-ship unless your balls get cut off or blown off while on a reconnaissance  patrol or from some disease while on liberty in Tiajuana.

Has this been mentioned earlier?

BTW ... I'm pretty damn dumb regarding this transgender stuff and in particular  .... its situation witinh the military.

I though that Bruce Jenner was the originator.

Please excuse my stupidity.

(DIABLO.... I just read your comment above after submitting this and I do agree with you entirely, but sometimes the simple solution is seldom thought of.)

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Re: Trump just banned Transgenders from the military
« Reply #78 on: July 27, 2017, 08:29:43 AM »
Peshmerga fighter

Those are kurdish women. They wear exaggerated clown makeup  so isis knows it's a woman that's killed them   because they are whores.

Fixed!

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Re: Trump just banned Transgenders from the military
« Reply #79 on: July 27, 2017, 08:32:36 AM »
ISIS days are numbered,now that Kurdish women are after them.  ::)

I fear for their health.

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Re: Trump just banned Transgenders from the military
« Reply #80 on: July 27, 2017, 08:49:03 AM »

So it would be a simple matter to just NEGATE and REFUSE any form of  VA medical coverage for anything and everything related to Transgender-ship

Even that would be better than what he did. He did it to be mean..plain and simple.
This isn't an issue over money

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Re: Trump just banned Transgenders from the military
« Reply #81 on: July 27, 2017, 10:05:57 AM »
Sad day when an american can't serve his country and get his bawls and cwouk cut off on the taxpayer while doing it, honestly,what has the country come too. Its outrageous, any idea the cost of gender reassignment surgery in the USA. I dont think trump has much against the transgender community , I just think he doesn't want the armed service used as a health fund for every potential manwoman womanman outhere. I would imagine like most things under Obama the increase in costs and the amount of people considering this type of procedure and using the armed service has skyrocketed.


The idea that someone would sign up for military service for gender reassignment surgery is ridiculous.  A private starts out making 1531 a month.  Gender surgery cost between 7k-24k from a private doctor but remember the military expense even if they were hacking off balls and sausages would be just for materials which would consist of a scalpel, a paper bag, and some bandages....maybe a steak dinner from the mess hall, an SOS, and a few cups of victory juice.  However, consider that the military spends 84 million on Viagra and much more on supporting a soldier's family and kids and that's a bargain.


Conclusion....Medical cost is bullshit however its going to really cost a lot of money from the legal actions, discharge and retirement pay, and the hiring and retraining of personnel to take their place.


Conclusion....  
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Re: Trump just banned Transgenders from the military
« Reply #82 on: July 27, 2017, 10:24:18 AM »
Anyone who is physically and psychologically well adjusted should be able to serve their country.

I could never join the military because of pre-existing medical conditions.
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Re: Trump just banned Transgenders from the military
« Reply #83 on: July 27, 2017, 10:27:52 AM »
Anyone who is physically and psychologically well adjusted should be able to serve their country.
Holy shit!
Another NORMAL Getbigger???
Wow..there's hope for this thread/site after all!

Love it!

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Re: Trump just banned Transgenders from the military
« Reply #84 on: July 27, 2017, 04:54:59 PM »
7k gender confused compared to the almost 1.5mil members in the entire military and they want us to cater to them.....nah.

You're so fucking ignorant it's amazing.  They're not asking for special treatment, just to serve their country moron.

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Re: Trump just banned Transgenders from the military
« Reply #85 on: July 27, 2017, 05:16:44 PM »
I heard we can't afford to have women or blacks in the military either. Kick them out too Trump!
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Re: Trump just banned Transgenders from the military
« Reply #86 on: July 27, 2017, 07:05:56 PM »
Quote from: Dos Equis on Today at 01:43:12
I have a female friend who is a stud.  Does marathons and triathlons.  Great athlete.  She was rejected by the Army because of eczema, which is totally controlled by medication.  Went all the way up the chain with appeals and they still deemed her medically unfit to serve.   


Qoute from Howard.
Good point and very relevant.

The last couple  posts have motivated me to sound off on how I really feel about this issue.

As a US Marine, you were required to conform to very strict, rigid standards of uniform dress and bearing.
I was on the Marine power lifting team and some of us had to get ht/wt waivers.
For example, I was one of the lifters who had to get a body composition test .
Keep in mind, I'm 5'10" and competed in 198 lbs class , making me only a few lbs over the marine standard.
I got the waiver and understood why they required it.

It's a pretty simple concept at work here.
If you want to be a marine, you conform to THEIR standards of dress, appearance , hair style, etc.
When you're a US Marine, you act the part , look the part and will go to war If called .
As a member of the US military, you volunteer to be under the UCMJ* and waive your basic rights.
* Uniform Code of Military Justice.

I never served in combat, but went thru the training.
Most of it was tough , stressful and mentally exhausting.
They never asked me , if I wanted to do it. They simply ordered me to.
You know that going in and without a draft everyone is a volunteer.

If you want to be a drag queen or change your gender, that's NOT part of the USMC.
Those who want to do their own thing, fine and dandy.
BUT do so on your nickel ,as a private citizen.

The military recruits men and women of all races, creeds and faiths.
In my experience, it was the fairest organization I was ever involved with.
I don't think sticking with one gender is too much to ask to wear the uniform.



Good post Howard.

Some will say your not Normal for that Post.
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Probably the queer shit stabbing liberals.

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Re: Trump just banned Transgenders from the military
« Reply #87 on: July 27, 2017, 07:14:18 PM »




For all you 'Normal' shit stabbing queers

Just shows that even Nature gets it wrong sometimes
In your cases.

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Re: Trump just banned Transgenders from the military
« Reply #88 on: July 27, 2017, 07:31:13 PM »
That's actually a very good post you made there. I agree the military is there to win wars.
But it's still wrong to exclude somebody because of their sexual "gender".
If there's nothing hindering them from fighting as effectively then there's no reason for this.

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Re: Trump just banned Transgenders from the military
« Reply #89 on: July 27, 2017, 07:55:40 PM »
Freaks, f ags, cucks, dipshits, imbeciles, and SJWs everywhere.

Bloody 'ell.

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Re: Trump just banned Transgenders from the military
« Reply #90 on: July 27, 2017, 08:10:26 PM »
The top brass may talk Trump out of this one. Remains to be seen how this will unfold.

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Re: Trump just banned Transgenders from the military
« Reply #91 on: July 27, 2017, 08:22:14 PM »

The idea that someone would sign up for military service for gender reassignment surgery is ridiculous.  A private starts out making 1531 a month.  Gender surgery cost between 7k-24k from a private doctor but remember the military expense even if they were hacking off balls and sausages would be just for materials which would consist of a scalpel, a paper bag, and some bandages....maybe a steak dinner from the mess hall, an SOS, and a few cups of victory juice.  However, consider that the military spends 84 million on Viagra and much more on supporting a soldier's family and kids and that's a bargain.


Conclusion....Medical cost is bullshit however its going to really cost a lot of money from the legal actions, discharge and retirement pay, and the hiring and retraining of personnel to take their place.


Conclusion....  



Conclusion as usual you join conversations with absolutely no idea what your talking about, forgive me now while I go back to quietly and politely just ignoring everything you post.

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Re: Trump just banned Transgenders from the military
« Reply #92 on: July 27, 2017, 11:51:07 PM »
That's actually a very good post you made there. I agree the military is there to win wars.
But it's still wrong to exclude somebody because of their sexual "gender".
If there's nothing hindering them from fighting as effectively then there's no reason for this.



Sexual 'Gender'  ::)
Mental illness you mean.

Plus IF they are going to Mutalate themselves let them do it before joining
And be able to show at least 3/4 years of "Normality" if that is Possible.

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Re: Trump just banned Transgenders from the military
« Reply #93 on: July 28, 2017, 02:55:16 AM »

They are United States Soldiers....and there actually is no financial case...more bullshit.  In any event, if you respect the troops, you handle it the right way.  Putting this on Twitter is insulting to those serving our country...including you


And no they are all going to be discharged if it goes the way Trump wants it

You're not understanding me.

What you're saying isn't particularly controversial

...But you chose to pick shizzo's post which had a basically nothing to do with the method of which it was divulged, saying it was rambling (which it was not).

Let's wait until shizzo says something stupid to criticise him.  What he said wasn't related to what you're saying .. really at all.  He was just talking about the motives behind the situation.  He said nothing about the method.

And I remain highly sceptical that it will be retroactive to currently serving (regardless of what trump wants)

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Re: Trump just banned Transgenders from the military
« Reply #94 on: July 28, 2017, 06:22:57 AM »
Anyone who is physically and psychologically well adjusted should be able to serve.

 Agreed, which is why trannies shouldn't serve: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria

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Re: Trump just banned Transgenders from the military
« Reply #95 on: July 28, 2017, 07:09:56 AM »
Anyone who is physically and psychologically well adjusted should be able to serve their country.

I could never join the military because of pre-existing medical conditions.

A man who thinks or feels like he's a woman and vice versa are not well adjusted.

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Re: Trump just banned Transgenders from the military
« Reply #96 on: July 28, 2017, 07:26:41 AM »
Anyone who is physically and psychologically well adjusted should be able to serve their country.

I could never join the military because of pre-existing medical conditions.

why would anyone psychologically well adjusted join the military?

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Re: Trump just banned Transgenders from the military
« Reply #97 on: July 28, 2017, 09:56:05 AM »
Lady Gags backs Trump up on this one.

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Re: Trump just banned Transgenders from the military
« Reply #98 on: July 28, 2017, 10:02:05 AM »
Lady Gags backs Trump up on this one.
par for the course, isn't it something insane like 22 veterans commit suicide every day? or like 60 die everyday waiting for va benefits?

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Re: Trump just banned Transgenders from the military
« Reply #99 on: July 28, 2017, 10:15:30 AM »
It's ironic that the public reacts so strongly to a potential transgender ban from the military, yet there was virtually no reaction at all when Obama signed the NDAA into law, which allows indefinite detention of Americans without charges, showing cause, or due process.

Yeah, but which one has been covered.

The problem is that the viewers or readers or whatever will actually assign importance based on that.  That's the crazy part IMO.  They'll think the one is much more important (if they've even heard of the other in the first place) based on the undeniable fact that the one is on their radar, constantly.

That's the "magic" of MSM.