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Wanna know how royally FUCKED UP our media are?
« on: July 28, 2017, 06:33:17 PM »
This gets minimal attention:



Trump's transgender ban gets beaten into our subconscious even when we're asleep.

Makes you think.

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Re: Wanna know how royally FUCKED UP our media are?
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2017, 06:34:51 PM »
By the way, Madeleine's sanctions are a culmination of a succession of major diplomatic screw-ups that turned the Middle East into the cluster-fuck of shitdom it's become.

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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2017, 06:45:54 PM »
This gets minimal attention:



Trump's transgender ban gets beaten into our subconscious even when we're asleep.

Makes you think.

great point

the media really should be playing a 23 second clip from 22 years ago as much as anything that is current news

I have a hard time believing right wingers on this board give a rats ass about dead children in Iraq and I'm sure wouldn't lose a wink of sleep if we bombed Iran or North Korea and killed 5 million children

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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2017, 04:46:11 AM »
great point

the media really should be playing a 23 second clip from 22 years ago as much as anything that is current news

I have a hard time believing right wingers on this board give a rats ass about dead children in Iraq and I'm sure wouldn't lose a wink of sleep if we bombed Iran or North Korea and killed 5 million children


Forget about right vs. left... the issue at hand is the American media's obvious bias.

In the US, informing the public is a gone art. The media don't inform you and I of ANYTHING. The different TV channels are now there to sell you shit, dassit! They pick and choose what to inform you about and who to like, or not. It's goals are coercive.

Very, very dangerous.

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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2017, 05:45:25 AM »
Forget about right vs. left... the issue at hand is the American media's obvious bias.

In the US, informing the public is a gone art. The media don't inform you and I of ANYTHING. The different TV channels are now there to sell you shit, dassit! They pick and choose what to inform you about and who to like, or not. It's goals are coercive.

Very, very dangerous.

On a positive note, these companies are dinosaurs. Old school media outlets didn't adapt well to the Internet and their tv ratings continue to plummet. Hardly anybody watches CNN, MSNBC and even FOX is starting to flatten.

The same goes for Hollywood. They just don't have a monopoly on information and entertainment anymore. Anyone can make a movie. Anybody can report a news story.


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Re: Wanna know how royally FUCKED UP our media are?
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2017, 11:35:18 AM »
What we lack is debate. We need opposing ideals to be explained to the layman, we need experts on TV explaining to us what happened to American's purchasing power in the past 50 years, we need to know why the Social Security pool of money is being drained to unsustainable levels, we need to know why a crook of a human being was allowed to implement an insurance scheme that HE KNEW was going to increase premiums for ALL Americans, we need to know why we're overtaxed and under serviced, we need to know why the powers-that-be are so hell bent on gun control, we need to know why our public school systems SUCK so fucking much, we need to know why more money isn't being funneled into researched.

We need to know A LOT of things, and these things aren't even getting mentioned. Yet, the issues that are being brought up are pseudo-issues made up by someone in power just to deviate The People's attention from the REAL issues.

If this keeps going this way, things may get to very dangerous levels. For everyone.

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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2017, 12:40:44 PM »
Forget about right vs. left... the issue at hand is the American media's obvious bias.

In the US, informing the public is a gone art. The media don't inform you and I of ANYTHING. The different TV channels are now there to sell you shit, dassit! They pick and choose what to inform you about and who to like, or not. It's goals are coercive.

Very, very dangerous.

maybe this will make you feel better

https://psmag.com/news/the-iraq-sanctions-myth-56433

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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2017, 06:39:14 PM »
maybe this will make you feel better

https://psmag.com/news/the-iraq-sanctions-myth-56433

It was such a "myth" that UNICEF carried out on-the-ground surveys and agreed to the numbers (more or less). Moreover, the UN Security Council, excluding the US representatives, upon getting the alarming reports of what was REALLY going on, suggested to the American representatives that Resolution 687 be amended to allow for the importation of medical equipment and infant food due to the alarming high rates of infant deaths.

The REAL "myth" is that the democrats are peace-loving, tree-hugging hippies.

Surpriiiiiiiiiiiise!


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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2017, 06:54:12 PM »
Fixed.

"Media" can be both singular and plural depending on what we have in mind. If we are speaking generally about "social media" as a collective entity, (that is, all forms of social media together as a group), we would treat it as singular. If we are thinking of specific forms of social media each separately and individually, we would treat "social media" as plural.

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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2017, 07:23:17 PM »
Good thread.

Fixed.

"Media" can be both singular and plural depending on what we have in mind. If we are speaking generally about "social media" as a collective entity, (that is, all forms of social media together as a group), we would treat it as singular. If we are thinking of specific forms of social media each separately and individually, we would treat "social media" as plural.

Yeah, but when it comes to media, what do we call it when any apparent plurality shows singular purpose?

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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2017, 07:24:20 PM »
Good thread.

Yeah, but when it comes to media, what do we call it when any apparent plurality shows singular purpose?

-Got me.

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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2017, 07:28:45 PM »
-Got me.

It is a very serious situation, Prime.  And I know you're more than smart enough to realize it.

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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2017, 07:44:23 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2017, 07:45:38 PM »
It is a very serious situation, Prime.  And I know you're more than smart enough to realize it.


I try very hard not to take these things too seriously when there is little chance I could do anything to change them. BTW, I'm not that smart. If I were, I'd quit Getbig. This reminds me of this line in the movie Brokeback Mountain,


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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2017, 07:51:10 PM »
Good thread.

Yeah, but when it comes to media, what do we call it when any apparent plurality shows singular purpose?

Which is what it is. We're effectively watching the same TV channel with the only difference being the channel #.

Might as well as change their names to CNN 1, CNN 2, CNN 3, et cetera. Kinda like HBO.

The message is the same. The lack of neutrality is very noticeable. It's the same guy pumping the same message.

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« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2017, 08:53:28 PM »
Which is what it is. We're effectively watching the same TV channel with the only difference being the channel #.

Might as well as change their names to CNN 1, CNN 2, CNN 3, et cetera. Kinda like HBO.

The message is the same. The lack of neutrality is very noticeable. It's the same guy pumping the same message.

Have you considered there may be only one message to broadcast? Opinions are not messages. What bothers me about news broadcasts is that they are often more opinion than message and should be qualified as such.

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« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2017, 09:17:40 PM »
Enjoy even online media..


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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2017, 05:39:54 AM »
Have you considered there may be only one message to broadcast? Opinions are not messages. What bothers me about news broadcasts is that they are often more opinion than message and should be qualified as such.

Dude, it's everything, from the opinions to the news selection to the way the people in those shows roll their eyes to every Trump word to every subliminal tidbit.

It's definitely more than an opinion, it's character assassination.

Main problem is that this is the POTUS we're talking about, not Joey "The Situation".

As much as they would love to, they don't get to vote the POTUS off the island.

Sons of fucking bitches.

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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2017, 10:22:28 AM »
Forget about right vs. left... the issue at hand is the American media's obvious bias.

In the US, informing the public is a gone art. The media don't inform you and I of ANYTHING. The different TV channels are now there to sell you shit, dassit! They pick and choose what to inform you about and who to like, or not. It's goals are coercive.

Very, very dangerous.

Your theory about the media does not take into account that their major motivation is to make money, not to coerce you. The media tells us what the majority of their audience  wants to hear. If you don't agree with the media's reporting style, it is like because you aren't part of their focus audience.

When I briefly lived in Canada many years ago, their media coverage/perspective was vastly different than ours. The same could probably be said about the media in most other countries.

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« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2017, 10:23:49 AM »
Another leftist rag, Strawman?

did it happen or not?

on a side note - would you be in favor of bombing Iran or North Korea

yes or no?

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« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2017, 10:32:24 AM »
did it happen or not?

on a side note - would you be in favor of bombing Iran or North Korea

yes or no?

I don't read 99.9% of the links you post. That being said, with N. Korea yesterday might have been the last straw and Un should be taken out. Iran isn't far behind.

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« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2017, 10:32:47 AM »
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« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2017, 11:31:27 AM »
Your theory about the media does not take into account that their major motivation is to make money, not to coerce you.

If YOUR theory were to be correct, i.e. that media outlets are in business to make money, then they would be happy to sacrifice message for ratings, which is what makes them money (ratings).  

   

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The media tells us what the majority of their audience wants to hear.

Really???? Sit back. Take a breather. Think about what you just said.

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If you don't agree with the media's reporting style, it is like because you aren't part of their focus audience.

Look, I'm not into left vs. right ranting, I've said that before. What I have an issue with is the media's priorities. In my book, if you didn't have an issue with a senile old hag (Albright) playing an active part in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of little kids in Iraq (and the blowback that followed,) you CERTAINLY shouldn't have an issue with Melania walking 2 feet behind the POTUS showing obvious signs of being upset. Tough SHIT. It pisses me off just having to point out these kind of inconsistencies because this is the mind-blowing reality that we have been made accustomed to. If Melania isn't happy, you know what? Let her grab her shit and leave. There'll be 10,000 other hoes out there jumping on the Donald's dick while she's putting her shit in the suitcase.

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When I briefly lived in Canada many years ago, their media coverage/perspective was vastly different than ours. The same could probably be said about the media in most other countries.

What you were able to see in Canadian outlets was information, not message, information. Two different things.

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« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2017, 11:52:15 AM »
Anyone pointed out that this man has the entire nuclear arsenal one click away from being activated?

Do you really want the media constantly and publicly stating "look at the piece of shit you married"?

I don't know about you but I'd rather hope that Slovakian beauty is really taking care of him...

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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2017, 03:20:10 PM »
If YOUR theory were to be correct, i.e. that media outlets are in business to make money, then they would be happy to sacrifice message for ratings, which is what makes them money (ratings).  

   

Really???? Sit back. Take a breather. Think about what you just said.

Look, I'm not into left vs. right ranting, I've said that before. What I have an issue with is the media's priorities. In my book, if you didn't have an issue with a senile old hag (Albright) playing an active part in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of little kids in Iraq (and the blowback that followed,) you CERTAINLY shouldn't have an issue with Melania walking 2 feet behind the POTUS showing obvious signs of being upset. Tough SHIT. It pisses me off just having to point out these kind of inconsistencies because this is the mind-blowing reality that we have been made accustomed to. If Melania isn't happy, you know what? Let her grab her shit and leave. There'll be 10,000 other hoes out there jumping on the Donald's dick while she's putting her shit in the suitcase.

What you were able to see in Canadian outlets was information, not message, information. Two different things.

Cable news is on 24/7 There is so much repetition that 10 minutes covers the daily news. I'm not interested in Trump's marital issues either. My guess would be that lots of other people are.


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