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Re: Jon Jones. How much superior skills vs superior size
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2017, 01:31:25 PM »
Cyborg, DJ, Joanna, Connor > Bones Jones in terms of P4P rankings

Cyborg and Joanna LOL. None of them have dominated like Jones for the length of time he has in the top organization . Cyborg fought bums for years, she has no competition. Joanna hasn't been around long enough and isn't as dominant as in her first bunch of UFC wins.

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Re: Jon Jones. How much superior skills vs superior size
« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2017, 02:00:27 PM »
Cyborg and Joanna LOL. None of them have dominated like Jones for the length of time he has in the top organization . Cyborg fought bums for years, she has no competition. Joanna hasn't been around long enough and isn't as dominant as in her first bunch of UFC wins.

It is at least an interesting conversation.

Cyborg has won 17 straight, many of them via first round knock outs. Her fights are basically forgone conclusions before the match even starts. Many times with 10 to 1 odds minimum in her favor.

Jones dominates and has a colorful record but certainly not even close to putting down opponents with the same ease Cyborg does.

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Re: Jon Jones. How much superior skills vs superior size
« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2017, 02:05:49 PM »
if someone like cyborg wins easily that says more about the competition than her skills.

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Re: Jon Jones. How much superior skills vs superior size
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2017, 02:12:53 PM »
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Re: Jon Jones. How much superior skills vs superior size
« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2017, 02:13:55 PM »
Jones would have trouble against Dos santos, Miocic, Overeem, Werdum.. Cain would destroy Jones.. Lesnar is easy fight.. just circulate, stay in distance and Lesnar will gas and then attack

UFC always like to promote(brainwash) Jones as the best figther ever.. Jones should go up in weight-class, so far the only one truly 2x division champ is Conor..

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Re: Jon Jones. How much superior skills vs superior size
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2017, 02:17:46 PM »
Lesnar doesn't deserve a fight with Jones. He's just a roided gorilla, without his strength he's a total can.

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Re: Jon Jones. How much superior skills vs superior size
« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2017, 02:20:15 PM »
Lesnar doesn't deserve a fight with Jones. He's just a roided gorilla, without his strength he's a total can.
UFC needs this fight to generate income or it'll be bankrupt within two years

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Re: Jon Jones. How much superior skills vs superior size
« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2017, 02:21:14 PM »
UFC needs this fight to generate income or it'll be bankrupt within two years


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Re: Jon Jones. How much superior skills vs superior size
« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2017, 05:42:59 PM »
 ;D

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Re: Jon Jones. How much superior skills vs superior size
« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2017, 05:44:31 PM »
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Re: Jon Jones. How much superior skills vs superior size
« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2017, 06:18:45 PM »
matt c is p4p champ
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Re: Jon Jones. How much superior skills vs superior size
« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2017, 08:37:23 AM »
Would Jon Jones be as successful being 5'8" , Sean Salmons chin,  having Daniel Cormiers legs, and Artem Lobovs arms and reach?
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Re: Jon Jones. How much superior skills vs superior size
« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2017, 11:05:23 AM »
Would Jon Jones be as successful being 5'8" , Sean Salmons chin,  having Daniel Cormiers legs, and Artem Lobovs arms and reach?
With all of those disabilities? Well no... Jones utilizes his physical attributes well, but has his issues too, why NOBODY attacks his skinny legs with kicks dumbfounds me, why they don't stamp on his toes in the clinch (after his big toe almost got cut wholly off in the Sonnen fight) is also retarded. He can be beaten, he has been hit hard but never received a hard flurry of punches, only one at a time.

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Re: Jon Jones. How much superior skills vs superior size
« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2017, 11:07:17 AM »
With all of those disabilities? Well no... Jones utilizes his physical attributes well, but has his issues too, why NOBODY attacks his skinny legs with kicks dumbfounds me, why they don't stamp on his toes in the clinch (after his big toe almost got cut wholly off in the Sonnen fight) is also retarded. He can be beaten, he has been hit hard but never received a hard flurry of punches, only one at a time.

Would look hilarious with Artem Lobovs arms on his frame though.
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Re: Jon Jones. How much superior skills vs superior size
« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2017, 11:15:40 AM »
Would look hilarious with Artem Lobovs arms on his frame though.
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Re: Jon Jones. How much superior skills vs superior size
« Reply #41 on: August 04, 2017, 05:05:49 PM »
Jones would have trouble against Dos santos, Miocic, Overeem, Werdum.. Cain would destroy Jones.. Lesnar is easy fight.. just circulate, stay in distance and Lesnar will gas and then attack

UFC always like to promote(brainwash) Jones as the best figther ever.. Jones should go up in weight-class, so far the only one truly 2x division champ is Conor..

He would have ZERO trouble with JDS.  Out of Stipe, Overeem, Werdum and Cain, I believe based on size and styles that Overeem gives him the most trouble.  I've said it for years,
and I'll say it again.  Not only are Jones and DC the two best light heavyweights on the planet, they are also the two best heavyweights on the planet.

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Re: Jon Jones. How much superior skills vs superior size
« Reply #42 on: August 04, 2017, 05:11:32 PM »
Jones has superior skills and superior size.  I hope he keeps his head on straight this time.

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Re: Jon Jones. How much superior skills vs superior size
« Reply #43 on: August 04, 2017, 05:23:49 PM »
He would have ZERO trouble with JDS.  Out of Stipe, Overeem, Werdum and Cain, I believe based on size and styles that Overeem gives him the most trouble.  I've said it for years,
and I'll say it again.  Not only are Jones and DC the two best light heavyweights on the planet, they are also the two best heavyweights on the planet.

You know nothing. Gus put Jones in the hospital.

Imagine what a 250-260lb fighter would do to him.

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Re: Jon Jones. How much superior skills vs superior size
« Reply #44 on: August 04, 2017, 07:13:37 PM »
You know nothing. Gus put Jones in the hospital.

Imagine what a 250-260lb fighter would do to him.

We can agree that you are limited mentally.  Jones would take any heavyweight challenge more seriously than
he did Gus.  Mark my words, if he and Gus fight again, like Floyd would say.  Easy, goddamn work!

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Re: Jon Jones. How much superior skills vs superior size
« Reply #45 on: August 04, 2017, 07:30:11 PM »
We can agree that you are limited mentally.  Jones would take any heavyweight challenge more seriously than
he did Gus.  Mark my words, if he and Gus fight again, like Floyd would say.  Easy, goddamn work!

Your words mean nothing. Gus hurt Jones. That cannot be changed. It is a historical fact .

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Re: Jon Jones. How much superior skills vs superior size
« Reply #46 on: August 05, 2017, 12:47:43 AM »
Your words mean nothing. Gus hurt Jones. That cannot be changed. It is a historical fact .

Just like Jesus, right?  LMFAO!


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Re: Jon Jones. How much superior skills vs superior size
« Reply #47 on: August 05, 2017, 02:32:31 AM »
he's a heavyweight frame that happens to have sticks for legs so he is able to make a lighter weightclass.

that's why he wins against the smaller guys superior range and taking advantage of it in a clever way.

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Re: Jon Jones. How much superior skills vs superior size
« Reply #48 on: August 05, 2017, 03:04:45 AM »
Jones would take any heavyweight challenge more seriously than
he did Gus.  Mark my words, if he and Gus fight again, like Floyd would say.  Easy, goddamn work!

No!! Mark my words.. Jones would've challenge the HW division long time ago if it was that easy.. There's a reason he goes through a hard weight cut every time, his camp knows that Miocic, Cain, Overeem, JDS, Werdum, etc.. would give him serious trouble.

It's funny you say that Jones would win easy against JDS, that only shows how little you actually know the fighting game, in their camps trainers, managers, sparring partners can see to some extend how Jones would do in HW division.. and they know.. trust me!!

Just like GSP and Silva, they knew that going up in weight class and challenge for the title would be a huge risk..

Conor knew that the LW division wasn't a big risk.. therefore they challenge with much confidence!!

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Re: Jon Jones. How much superior skills vs superior size
« Reply #49 on: August 05, 2017, 03:50:51 AM »
Just like Jesus, right?  LMFAO!



I see that you quickly changed the subject! Your argument was weak, so you changed the subject ;D