HRT availability?

[Slik]

A buddy of mine about my age (50s) has been on hrt for a while. He says the bad thing about it is he often cannot get an erection now. Logic dictates that higher test would do the opposite. Can anyone enlighten me?

[Rambone]

A buddy of mine about my age (50s) has been on hrt for a while. He says the bad thing about it is he often cannot get an erection now. Logic dictates that higher test would do the opposite. Can anyone enlighten me?

Could be a bunch of different things. High blood pressure, medications, estrogen too low, estrogen too high, etc.

[Slik]

Could be a bunch of different things. High blood pressure, medications, estrogen too low, estrogen too high, etc.

is it common among men who get hrt? It would be awesome if it made u feel like a younger man again but there always seems to be a price to pay with things like this.

[Grape Ape]

All you pussies who run these half ass 'cycles' or better yet SARMs - never look good - so why take the shit
Post cycle bitchass

_aj_ is on low dose and probably could be stage ready in two weeks, if not two days.

[Rimstinger]

A buddy of mine about my age (50s) has been on hrt for a while. He says the bad thing about it is he often cannot get an erection now. Logic dictates that higher test would do the opposite. Can anyone enlighten me?

If he's wife is close to his age it's normal he wouldn't get an erection.

I wouldn't get turned on by a 50 year old woman if I was on 1g of test+proviron.

[Grape Ape]

If he's wife is close to his age it's normal he wouldn't get an erection.

I wouldn't get turned on by a 50 year old woman if I was on 1g of test+proviron.

Your first statement is just flat out wrong, but like due to your age (think you said once you were in your 20s, if not, my bad) so it's understandable.

Here's Sophia Vergara at age 45.....at 50, probably won't be much different.

[Marty Champions]

lots of lame fuks on roids

your test is too low because u sit all day.  why should ur body make high test sitting around all day??

[The Keto Kid]

A buddy of mine about my age (50s) has been on hrt for a while. He says the bad thing about it is he often cannot get an erection now. Logic dictates that higher test would do the opposite. Can anyone enlighten me?

Penis function has a lot to do with blood flow, people who are overweight, have high blood pressure, high cholesterol will have erectile issues. Weird but interesting observation, but if you ever watch Japanese porn theres tons of older dudes in there still able to get it up and bust nuts, Im talking 70-80 year old men in these movies. Again it all goes back to diet, Asian in general are rarely overweight, not known for having high blood pressure, or heart disease. There diet is very low in processed foods and saturated fat. Theres definitely correlation there. The two countries that have the highest rate of penis pill use are USA and Australia, and coincidently are the highest consumers of processed foods and saturated fats.

[Thong Maniac]

I'm mid thirties and been on and off hrt. On it now, I found 200mg a week with a vegan diet (fish sparingly) has really been a gift in terms of body comp, heart health, and overall just feeling and looking good

[Grape Ape]

I'm mid thirties and been on and off hrt. On it now, I found 200mg a week with a vegan diet (fish sparingly) has really been a gift in terms of body comp, heart health, and overall just feeling and looking good

Do you have a medical condition making you go on this at such a young age?

[Thong Maniac]

Do you have a medical condition making you go on this at such a young age?

No, my levels were steadily declining in mid to late twenties. 315 was low point. Came off trt and normalized with 550 but looked shitty (still look shitty to getbig standards) so I went back on about a year of being natty again

[Slik]

Good info. I myself am torn between not fooling with Mother Nature and replacing something that is already in you naturally that had just fallen to lower levels. The question then is as we age is it a curse that test falls off and a bad thing or is there a good healthy reason that it is supposed to fall off as we age?

[Grape Ape]

No, my levels were steadily declining in mid to late twenties. 315 was low point. Came off trt and normalized with 550 but looked shitty (still look shitty to getbig standards) so I went back on about a year of being natty again

Test levels were at 550 and you went back on?

[Rimstinger]

Your first statement is just flat out wrong, but like due to your age (think you said once you were in your 20s, if not, my bad) so it's understandable.

Here's Sophia Vergara at age 45.....at 50, probably won't be much different.

I was talking in general, don't give a one off miracle example of a Latino woman famed for her looks.

Most women look unfuckable at 50 esp caucasians, they age like milk, they go from smooth and gentle to sour and lumpy overnight no inbetween.

[Shizzo]

Good info. I myself am torn between not fooling with Mother Nature and replacing something that is already in you naturally that had just fallen to lower levels. The question then is as we age is it a curse that test falls off and a bad thing or is there a good healthy reason that it is supposed to fall off as we age?

As long as you feel energized and strong enough to workout on a consistent basis, then I don't see the need for you to go on at this moment.

Of course, everyone should get T levels checked at some point, especially if you are feeling unusually sluggish at a younger age. But there is a reason why it is perfectly legal to get HRT prescribed if your T levels are below normal for your age bracket.

Otherwise, you have to find other avenues if you want to supplement with AAS as an healthy adult.

[Rambone]

As long as you feel energized and strong enough to workout on a consistent basis, then I don't see the need for you to go on at this moment.

Of course, everyone should get T levels checked at some point, especially if you are feeling unusually sluggish at a younger age. But there is a reason why it is perfectly legal to get HRT prescribed if your T levels are below normal for your age bracket.

Otherwise, you have to find other avenues if you want to supplement with AAS as an healthy adult.

This. I feel like a lack of know how plus PCP incompetence has quite a few people walking around with hormone issues whether it is testosterone related or thyroid related. Even the ranges they give you on the bloodwork aren't the greatest. I was hypothyroidal but according to my PCP and bloodwork, I was within the wide range for TSH. Plus the majority of PCPs check for total testosterone, instead of free testosterone. They also neglect tons of other factors like SHBG, E2, LH, etc. If you're tired with no libido, they'll test for total testosterone, say you're within the range, and prescribe adderall and viagara. It's a joke.

[lilhawk1]

Always consider too that if you get an enlarged prostate as you age and it's very common the first thing they consider  to stop the enlargement is to cut off testosterone. They give you pills to cut off your natural production of testosterone. Then how will you your physique look?

Another potential problem is that if you are on test for years if you go off your LH to testosterone ratio could be permanently off. Meaning you could end up with even lower testosterone than what you began on when you  started test.

Lastly long term testosterone replacement can increase the risk of a heart attack. Of course all the studies by the testosterone manufactures dispute this.  What they think is happening is that testosterone changes the viscosity of the blood making it thicker. The reason many heart patients take a baby aspirin is to thin the blood and lower inflammation.

Seriously, you need to stop with your bullshit.  You don't have a clue what you're talking about. 

[honest]

use smaller doses more frequently subcutaneously to give you stable levels

[tres_taco_combo]

my buddy plans on running this for trt

100mg test cypionate or ethanate injected per week with two or more injections per week.
250iu hCG SC EOD [every other day]
1.0mg Arimidex/anastrozole per week in divided doses

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

A buddy of mine about my age (50s) has been on hrt for a while. He says the bad thing about it is he often cannot get an erection now. Logic dictates that higher test would do the opposite. Can anyone enlighten me?

enlarged prostate is most likely

[rangerwil]

my buddy plans on running this for trt

100mg test cypionate or ethanate injected per week with two or more injections per week.

Why bother busting up 100mgs into multiple doses?
It's only 100mg.
Maybe if he's super prone to PIP then 50mg every 4 days...maybe.
There is a benefit to not taking your TRT dose in one shot...but this is only 100.
IMO --maybe if it were 150 or better I would bother.

I've slammed 300 in one pin 3 times a week for a long time.
Many many times.
It's not uncommon.

[efanhowz]

I work at a trt clinic
For $200 a month patients get:
Once or twice a week injections, no appointment just walk in, no wait
Test/estrogen/prostate/hgb blood work monthly in the first 6 months
Blood work once every 6 months once maintenance dose is achieved
We aim for test levels around 600-800
This also includes arimidex to keep Estro between 20-40
Optional Hcg is $10 per 250 iu shot, most twice a week
Most doses are 100-150mg week with .25-.5mg of arimidex per week
Side effects are minimal bc we monitor so frequent

For men unfamiliar with steroids it's a no brainer, it's even worth it to cover just the cost of blood work alone. And it's a walk in clinic, you never wait, and the PA's will write concierge scripts for cialis, bp meds, other meds and any bloodwork you want

Most pcp's have no idea about trt and do not monitor and manage levels to the extent that we do they'll hand you a script for test, needles, and have you do blood work every 6 months which is irresponsible.

[rangerwil]

I work at a trt clinic
For $200 a month patients get:
Once or twice a week injections, no appointment just walk in, no wait
Test/estrogen/prostate/hgb blood work monthly in the first 6 months
Blood work once every 6 months once maintenance dose is achieved
We aim for test levels around 600-800
This also includes arimidex to keep Estro between 20-40
Optional Hcg is $10 per 250 iu shot, most twice a week
Most doses are 100-150mg week with .25-.5mg of arimidex per week
Side effects are minimal bc we monitor so frequent

For men unfamiliar with steroids it's a no brainer, it's even worth it to cover just the cost of blood work alone. And it's a walk in clinic, you never wait, and the PA's will write concierge scripts for cialis, bp meds, other meds and any bloodwork you want

Most pcp's have no idea about trt and do not monitor and manage levels to the extent that we do they'll hand you a script for test, needles, and have you do blood work every 6 months which is irresponsible.

200$ a month for THAT is well worth it.
Especially if you're not looking to get involved in the UGL world or have any interest on doing more harsh anabolics/androgenics.
I would imagine the casual TRT patient can't pin himself--so right there it's almost a life savior.
There is absolutely no need for a man between 30-65 to not be on TRT once you start feeling like shit.

[Tennisballz]

Poor diet, lack of sleep, lack of quality exercise and stress.  Things most guys have consistently for their entire adult lives.  Test levels will naturally dip gradually as you age, but the notion  that they plummet after 40 is bs.  Its the shitty western lifestyle that does it.

[Grape Ape]

Poor diet, lack of sleep, lack of quality exercise and stress.  Things most guys have consistently for their entire adult lives.  Test levels will naturally dip gradually as you age, but the notion  that they plummet after 40 is bs.  Its the shitty western lifestyle that does it.

Great post.  Spot on.

General laziness contributes to all the factors above.