HRT availability?

[Master Blaster]

Folks I   know nothing about HRT. Can you get this though work? I have a pretty decent plan through my work, I'm paying more for better coverage but that is because of family concerns.

Would a doctor let you cycle? Seems prudent to taper off for a healthy heart from time to time.

Any input would be appreciated.

[Master Blaster]

LOL, I sound so dumb 

[JAGO]

Go over to RX Muscle and search the videos. Dave uses and recommends a service called ( I think ) Titan Medical.

J

[_aj_]

Real HRT is a low enough dose that you stay on forever. Coming off once in a while for a few weeks is recommended to reset your "receptors". I am not sure I buy that. Keep in mind that you'll likely permanently impair your own testosterone production after a while. That's why folks that are already in test decline find it a "why the fuck not" option.

Most family docs have no fucking clue about hormones, so ask around to find a doc that specializes in endo or HRT.

[BBSSchlemiel]

LOL, I sound so dumb 

You do. There's no cycling with HRT in the saw way there's no cycling with thyroid or insulin for hypothyroidal people and diabetics.

[Rambone]

Real TRT docs and clinics don't have juiced up bodybuilders promoting their business. A high dose for them is around 140mg/week, not the cookie cutter 200mg which is too high. They also do frequent check-ups with extensive bloodwork. Florida is full of clinics that are closer to overpriced steroid dealers than doctors. If you have good insurance, it seems like you'll potentially get coverage through an actual doctor but like AJ said, 99% don't know anything about hormones. The ideal situation would be full coverage plus a script where you can just get your vials at Walgreens and do whatever the hell you want with it. As for as being on it for life, that is yes and no. Guys have been able to successfully come off of it after years of use, but your hormones will go back to the same crappy levels they were before you started.

[BBSSchlemiel]

Guys have been able to successfully come off of it after years of use, but your hormones will go back to the same crappy levels they were before you started.

Definitely sounds like success.

[rangerwil]

You're gonna go broke dealing with Titan.
Same can be said for that clinic Piana is using to get his IGF-1.
But in his case--getting legit IGF might be worth it.
Still....crazy expensive.

[judochoke]

tried going thru Kaiser hmo, they said forget about it. not happening. switched insurances and my doctor said no problem, hooked me up with a endo doctor. he has me on 75 mgs a week of testosterone, see him every three months for blood tests. my insurance
doesn't not cover the test, so I pay about 120 for a bottle that lasts 3 months. been on for two years now.

TESTOSTERONE IS LIFE CHANGING!!!!!!!!!! (at least it is for me at 60, I had very low levels, 171 when I started.) so, find the right doctor.

[Taffin]

Definitely sounds like success.

Love this comment. 

[Taffin]

[oldtimer1]

Always consider too that if you get an enlarged prostate as you age and it's very common the first thing they consider  to stop the enlargement is to cut off testosterone. They give you pills to cut off your natural production of testosterone. Then how will you your physique look?

Another potential problem is that if you are on test for years if you go off your LH to testosterone ratio could be permanently off. Meaning you could end up with even lower testosterone than what you began on when you  started test.

Lastly long term testosterone replacement can increase the risk of a heart attack. Of course all the studies by the testosterone manufactures dispute this.  What they think is happening is that testosterone changes the viscosity of the blood making it thicker. The reason many heart patients take a baby aspirin is to thin the blood and lower inflammation.

[The Keto Kid]

tried going thru Kaiser hmo, they said forget about it. not happening. switched insurances and my doctor said no problem, hooked me up with a endo doctor. he has me on 75 mgs a week of testosterone, see him every three months for blood tests. my insurance
doesn't not cover the test, so I pay about 120 for a bottle that lasts 3 months. been on for two years now.

TESTOSTERONE IS LIFE CHANGING!!!!!!!!!! (at least it is for me at 60, I had very low levels, 171 when I started.) so, find the right doctor.

75 mg a week, what are your levels at now? I get 200ml a week, at $200 a month.

[rangerwil]

200 dollars a month for 200/mg a week of test/week. WOW!
Is that from a clinic--like one of those Mens health/life extension places?
Those places are a goldmine---if you own the company.
Maybe you guys should consider UGL.
You could get a 10cc vial of Test for about 50 bucks.

[Van_Bilderass]

But in his case--getting legit IGF might be worth it.

Do you know what the brand of IGF-1 is called? I bet it's smuggled in chinese UG... yes many of these clinics use chinese uncontrolled hormones.

[Irongrip400]

I am on 100mg a week. It cost me $10 for a months worth of test cyp which is two bottles.

[rangerwil]

Do you know what the brand of IGF-1 is called? I bet it's smuggled in chinese UG... yes many of these clinics use chinese uncontrolled hormones.

In the video the doctor didn't say which brand he uses...I dont think so anyway.
The IGF talk start at the 7:00 mark.

[_aj_]

Always consider too that if you get an enlarged prostate as you age and it's very common the first thing they consider  to stop the enlargement is to cut off testosterone. They give you pills to cut off your natural production of testosterone. Then how will you your physique look?

Another potential problem is that if you are on test for years if you go off your LH to testosterone ratio could be permanently off. Meaning you could end up with even lower testosterone than what you began on when you  started test.

Lastly long term testosterone replacement can increase the risk of a heart attack. Of course all the studies by the testosterone manufactures dispute this.  What they think is happening is that testosterone changes the viscosity of the blood making it thicker. The reason many heart patients take a baby aspirin is to thin the blood and lower inflammation.

Your "facts" about prostate and heart disease relation to TRT have both been debunked. How did you get so bitter towards anything steroid related?

[_aj_]

75 mg a week, what are your levels at now? I get 200ml a week, at $200 a month.

Typo of peace. 200ml/week @ 200mg/ml is 40g/week. Bostin levels!

[Voice of Doom]

it will be hard to get scripts and pharmacy's to fill orders after the zombie apocalypse.  You'll be fighting for your life and your family's life in a weak state.

[Slik]

Your "facts" about prostate and heart disease relation to TRT have both been debunked. How did you get so bitter towards anything steroid related?

I don't know the specifics about the drug aspects of the sport. I guess because I've never been very interested in that part of it even though bodybuilding to been a part of my life for over 40 years .  I just assume that higher testosterone levels made you more prone to prostate enlargement. Are you saying this is not the case?

[rangerwil]

Another potential problem is that if you are on test for years if you go off your LH to testosterone ratio could be permanently off. Meaning you could end up with even lower testosterone than what you began on when you  started test.

Once u are at the stage where TRT is NEEDED, why in the world would you come off?

[_aj_]

I don't know the specifics about the drug aspects of the sport. I guess because I've never been very interested in that part of it even though bodybuilding to been a part of my life for over 40 years .  I just assume that higher testosterone levels made you more prone to prostate enlargement. Are you saying this is not the case?

Plenty of studies now show that high E leads to prostate enlargement. So we don't know.

[_aj_]

Once u are at the stage where TRT is NEEDED, why in the world would you come off?

Keep in mind that this poster has an irrational hatred for gear and "juicers", likely because he was cuckolded by a bodybuilder. His opinions on this subject are seriously clouded.

[Spike]

Everyone always talks about 'messing up ur own test production'

But by ur time ur 40 or whatever age -- how much test are you really producing if your grabbing HRT to 'feel' better or to fck ur wife ?


Up and down hormone levels is not part of homeostasis - why that's is normal is shit reasoning - when your hormone levels dip is when you get problems , either stay on or stay off

All you pussies who run these half ass 'cycles' or better yet SARMs - never look good - so why take the shit ? So you can bench more ? So you can impress me homos at ur gym cause girls could care less unless ur wallet is swole too or you have a job / kid ur ex girl pays for so u leave her alone

Ur either on or your off


Take a real dose that u can maintain = HRT otherwise it's just a way he insurance companies can justify blood panels , and whatever else they can drum up insurance premiums  for an otherwise  healthy male to have to goto the Dr every 3 months at $$$ / visit
Post cycle bitchass