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300lb bodybuilding survival rates?
« on: August 22, 2017, 01:43:30 PM »
Nasser, Matarazzo, Kovaks, Dallas, maybe Piano, all gone. Damn Dillett has those brew genetics and is proving to be the exception.

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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2017, 01:56:30 PM »
Wasn't Cutler 300 as well?  It's not healthy of course.  Especially when you step on stage at 240-260.

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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2017, 02:13:20 PM »
Mat Duvall got up pretty high. CT Fletcher took a beating from being that big. Don Youngblood came close to #300. Tom Prince, Curtis Leffler.

I could add a whole bunch more if we added in Powerlifters, OLers, Strongmen, etc.....

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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2017, 02:14:04 PM »
Mat Duvall got up pretty high. CT Fletcher took a beating from being that big. Don Youngblood came close to #300. Tom Prince, Curtis Leffler.

I could add a whole bunch more if we added in Powerlifters, OLers, Strongmen, etc.....

Didnt CT have a near death experience like heart attack?

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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2017, 02:19:55 PM »
Didnt CT have a near death experience like heart attack?

Yeah, I think he's had a few.

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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2017, 02:24:38 PM »
Yeah, I think he's had a few.

Eating mcdonalds everyday for calories. I knew a guy who ate mcdonalds daily, he was about 6'5 scandi, but T shaped fat. had to have a bypass in his early 30s.

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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2017, 04:54:13 PM »
Eating mcdonalds everyday for calories. I knew a guy who ate mcdonalds daily, he was about 6'5 scandi, but T shaped fat. had to have a bypass in his early 30s.
Juan Morel Moron?

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Re: 300lb guy survival rates?
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2017, 05:21:41 PM »
Juan Morel Moron?

Didn't he already serve time for baby killing?

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Re: 300lb guy survival rates?
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2017, 05:22:17 PM »
Ramy is another guy who blew up very fast and u5s huge.

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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2017, 09:19:56 PM »
Nasser, Matarazzo, Kovaks, Dallas, maybe Piano, all gone. Damn Dillet has those brew genetics and is proving to be the exception. Golias also rolling the dice with dime piece trannies, must have a death wish.

Dillet lost ALL his size many years ago. He doesn't even look to be 200 pounds today, let alone 300. Matarazzo only got up to 275 pounds in the offseason.

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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2017, 09:37:38 PM »
The extra weight is too much to handle in the long run, but Dallas would have been on other stimulants too to die so young.

The smart ones like Dorian dropped weight after retiring and probably weren't on so many rec drugs/fat burners etc.

We've seen pics of Big Ramy offseason looking like he hasn't trained or juiced in 2 months and people laugh, he's being very smart at least he takes a break. I know it's not the same but you don't see sprinters being able to run their best times all year round because the body is obviously at another level of stress when they can, but some bodybuilders stay so much bigger all year round.

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Re: 300lb bodybuilding survival rates?
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2017, 01:39:37 AM »
either they cant stand not being big because of their egos

or they need to be somewhat close to contest size because of guest posing etc

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Re: 300lb bodybuilding survival rates?
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2017, 01:53:35 AM »
NFL players are routinely well over 300 pounds and chunky and have no issues. It's the over use of drugs.

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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2017, 02:16:23 AM »
On Sunday, September 11, 2011, at about 2:30pm, Atwood was walking through the pool area of the condominium complex where he lived in Dallas, TX when he had a heart attack. Two residents who were at the pool saw him fall in and immediately pulled him out. They were able to revive him and call paramedics, but Atwood died at nearby Baylor Regional Medical Center Hospital in Plano, TX, at age 37 years. The coroner's report showed that Atwood died of a massive heart attack. The report also states Atwood unknowingly suffered a minor heart attack about a month previous.


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Re: 300lb bodybuilding survival rates?
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2017, 02:33:10 AM »
lets compare to wrestlers

kamala, dead at 67. weight 375 pounds
haystacks calhoun, dead at 55, weight 600 pounds
viscera, dead at 42, 487 pounds - heart attack
don leo jonathan, dead at 86, weight 285-350 pounds - natural causes i would assume
crusher jerry blackwell, dead at 42, weight 474 pounds (however, after complications from car accident)
bubba ray dudley, alive and well!, weight 280
one man gang! still around at 57 and 450 pounds
giant baba, dead at 61, 283 pounds - cancer
abudallah the butcher! still around at 76, weight 360 pounds
king kong bundy! still around at 59, weight 458 pounds
umaga dead at 36, 350 pounds - heart attack due to drug overdose?
sid still around at 56, 317 pounds
rikishi, still around at 51, 400+ pounds
diesel, still around at 58, 300+ pounds
bruiser brody, dead at 42, 283 pounds - death by stabbing
earthquake dead at 42, 460 pounds - cancer
big boss man, dead at 41, 300 pounds - heart attack
mark henry, still around! 46, 360 pounds
gorilla monsoon, dead at 62, 400 pounds - diabetes/heart failure
stan hansen, still around at 67, 300+ pounds
big cat ernie ladd, dead at 68, 315 pounds - cancer
yokozuna dead at 34, 641 pounds - Pulmonary edema
bam bam bigelow, dead at 45 overdose - weight 390
vader, still around at 62, 452 pounds
kane  still around at 50, 300+ pounds
big show still around at 45, 383 pounds
andre the giant, dead at 46, heart failure 520 pounds
undertaker, still around at 52, 308 pounds

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Re: 300lb bodybuilding survival rates?
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2017, 02:52:41 AM »
Emmanuel Yarborough, dead of HA at 51, 600lbs, 6'8", https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Yarbrough#Death

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Re: 300lb bodybuilding survival rates?
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2017, 02:55:23 AM »
In 2007, he was hospitalized for a week due to heart failure, and after seeing an obesity specialist and changing his diet he reduced his weight from over 800 to around 670 pounds.

thats kinda a no brainer

but if we're looking at wrestlers and maybe nfl guys if people can get some stats on that, it seems weight isnt that big a factor so we might wanna look elsewhere for explanations

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« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2017, 02:57:33 AM »
NFL players are routinely well over 300 pounds and chunky and have no issues. It's the over use of drugs.

Average height for a lineman is 6' 5", if they weigh in the range Dallas weighed. They're also under good medical treatment and coaching through the college and professional portions of their career too.

You can be #300+, and live decently, but the majority that do live like turtles. Very slow, mellow existences.

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Re: 300lb bodybuilding survival rates?
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2017, 03:16:56 AM »
Don't they have a concussion rule in the NFL? I know they brought one into the NRL because of all the NFL players suing them for head knocks where they shouldn't have been allowed to keep playing on.

Maybe there should be one for bodybuilding like...if you fucking pass out on stage you can't compete for 2 years.

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Re: 300lb bodybuilding survival rates?
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2017, 03:42:28 AM »
NFL players are routinely well over 300 pounds and chunky and have no issues. It's the over use of drugs.

The average lifespan of an NFL player is like 55 .. 30 years less than a typical American

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Re: 300lb bodybuilding survival rates?
« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2017, 03:45:01 AM »
Don't they have a concussion rule in the NFL? I know they brought one into the NRL because of all the NFL players suing them for head knocks where they shouldn't have been allowed to keep playing on.

Maybe there should be one for bodybuilding like...if you fucking pass out on stage you can't compete for 2 years.

For the NFL, it's up to spotters, an independent neurologist, and team doctors. If a concussion is suspected, the player is pulled, and not allowed back till testing is done. If it comes back as a concussion, then they are supposed to be sat till they return to pre concussion neurological functioning levels.

It's not perfect, but it's there. It will get better for the players with each chunk of money the NFL loses to lawsuits.

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Re: 300lb bodybuilding survival rates?
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2017, 03:56:48 AM »
NFL players are routinely well over 300 pounds and chunky and have no issues. It's the over use of drugs.


But most over 6'2" on average


None of them average out at 5'7" like pro bb'ing

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Re: 300lb bodybuilding survival rates?
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2017, 04:18:29 AM »
The average lifespan of an NFL player is like 55 .. 30 years less than a typical American

you sure?

MYTH: “WHILE U.S. LIFE EXPECTANCY IS 77.6 YEARS, RECENT STUDIES SUGGEST THE AVERAGE  FOR NFL PLAYERS IS 55.” — SOURCE: ST. PETERSBURG TIMES

Fact: “A government study found a lower death rate among former NFL players than among men in the general population. Former players also had a lower rate of cancer-related deaths. And the rate of deaths from heart disease was lower, too.”
Source: New York Times

Fact: “We found the players in our study had a much lower rate of death overall compared to men in the general population. This means that, on average, NFL players (77.5-year life expectancy) are actually living longer than men in the general population (74.7 years).”
Source: National Institute for Occupational Health and Safety Study (NIOSH)

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Re: 300lb bodybuilding survival rates?
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2017, 05:26:37 AM »
Also depends on the amounts of GH they were doing. Dallas was on huge amounts. As was Mattarazo.

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« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2017, 06:12:43 AM »
you sure?

MYTH: “WHILE U.S. LIFE EXPECTANCY IS 77.6 YEARS, RECENT STUDIES SUGGEST THE AVERAGE  FOR NFL PLAYERS IS 55.” — SOURCE: ST. PETERSBURG TIMES

Fact: “A government study found a lower death rate among former NFL players than among men in the general population. Former players also had a lower rate of cancer-related deaths. And the rate of deaths from heart disease was lower, too.”
Source: New York Times

Fact: “We found the players in our study had a much lower rate of death overall compared to men in the general population. This means that, on average, NFL players (77.5-year life expectancy) are actually living longer than men in the general population (74.7 years).”
Source: National Institute for Occupational Health and Safety Study (NIOSH)
NFL players got quite a bit bigger in the 1990's so I think we will see the lifespan drop dramatically in the coming years as those guys start getting up towards 60.  Also it's worth noting that the smaller NFL players like receivers and defensive backs, quarterbacks etc probably do live longer than average guy.