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Mexico Will Pay for The Wall
« on: August 25, 2017, 09:11:54 AM »
Trumptard is now threatening to shut down OUR government unless WE pay for his stupid wall

Any Trumptards care to defend this?


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Re: Mexico Will Pay for The Wall
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2017, 09:49:57 AM »
Slow day at Antifa headquarters?

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Re: Mexico Will Pay for The Wall
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2017, 09:51:24 AM »
Slow day at Antifa headquarters?

you're always the first Trumptard to take the bait


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Re: Mexico Will Pay for The Wall
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2017, 02:33:54 PM »
the only pay possible to get Mexico to pay for this is a tax on remittances back from illegals or a tariff - but that will start a trade war and many companies build stuff in Mexico will rebel - in other words - not going to happen


I would like it to happen - but realistically it is not going to happen

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Re: Mexico Will Pay for The Wall
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2017, 04:34:28 PM »
Slow day at Antifa headquarters?
You're concerned about Antifa aren't you? Down right scared.

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Re: Mexico Will Pay for The Wall
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2017, 03:21:41 PM »
Threatening to shut down "OUR government" isn't much of a threat to the rest of us. It still runs at 80% according to Ryan's own mouth. Nothing happens to the rest of us, only those who are the problem. Scare tactics again.

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Re: Mexico Will Pay for The Wall
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2017, 03:44:03 PM »
Threatening to shut down "OUR government" isn't much of a threat to the rest of us. It still runs at 80% according to Ryan's own mouth. Nothing happens to the rest of us, only those who are the problem. Scare tactics again.

It has an effect on a lot of people and it's also fucking pathetic for a POTUS to say this much less one who's party controls all three branches of government

He's basically extorting the country he's supposed to be leading to foot the bill for something that he said over and over and over again that he would be getting Mexico to pay for.


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Re: Mexico Will Pay for The Wall
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2017, 04:12:51 PM »
It has an effect on a lot of people and it's also fucking pathetic for a POTUS to say this much less one who's party controls all three branches of government

He's basically extorting the country he's supposed to be leading to foot the bill for something that he said over and over and over again that he would be getting Mexico to pay for.



congress doesnt do shit, rinos dont do shit, democrats obstruct obstruct obstruct, AG ain't doing shit, fucking goverment is a sham, disgrace, trump should shut it down to get money for the fucking wall

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Re: Mexico Will Pay for The Wall
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2017, 04:34:40 PM »
congress doesnt do shit, rinos dont do shit, democrats obstruct obstruct obstruct, AG ain't doing shit, fucking goverment is a sham, disgrace, trump should shut it down to get money for the fucking wall

fuck that

Trump said Mexico will pay for it so he needs to get the money from them

should be a piece of cake for the self proclaimed worlds greatest negotiator

even the dumbest Trumptard should be able to understand that

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Re: Mexico Will Pay for The Wall
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2017, 06:12:54 PM »
fuck that

Trump said Mexico will pay for it so he needs to get the money from them

should be a piece of cake for the self proclaimed worlds greatest negotiator

even the dumbest Trumptard should be able to understand that

easy, take money from the people bringing drugs that have been confiscated coming through

oh wait, congress opposes that.  hmmm....

executive branch has basically zero power domestically

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Re: Mexico Will Pay for The Wall
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2017, 06:24:35 PM »
TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP...(DRINKING BEER) TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!
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Re: Mexico Will Pay for The Wall
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2017, 06:57:59 PM »
It has an effect on a lot of people



No it doesn't, liar. You can twist it and your definition of a lot but that would be the norm for you to squirm out of your original hyper ventilating meaning. No effect on the vast majority of Americans.

It's been done before and will be done again by presidents. Another emotional cryfest by Grasping. You never disagree/attack him for viable reasons that is your problem or if you have it is overwhelmed by pettiness.

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Re: Mexico Will Pay for The Wall
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2017, 07:40:42 PM »
No it doesn't, liar. You can twist it and your definition of a lot but that would be the norm for you to squirm out of your original hyper ventilating meaning. No effect on the vast majority of Americans.

It's been done before and will be done again by presidents. Another emotional cryfest by Grasping. You never disagree/attack him for viable reasons that is your problem or if you have it is overwhelmed by pettiness.


First of all there is no reason at all to shut down the government over funding for the wall since Trump repeatedly promised that Mexico would pay for it

Second, shutting down the government can costs hundreds of millions of dollars.  Even Rand Paul said shutting down the government costs more than keeping it open:  http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/aug/07/rand-paul/rand-paul-rightly-says-government-shutdown-was-mor/

Third, many people from all walks of life of effected by a shutdown.  

Vital services that ensure seniors and young children have access to healthy food and meals may not have sufficient Federal funds to serve all beneficiaries in an extended lapse.

Call centers, hotlines and regional offices that help veterans understand their benefits will close to the public.
And, veterans’ compensation, pension, education and other benefits could be cut off in the case of an extended shutdown.

Every one of America’s national parks and monuments, from Yosemite to the Smithsonian to the Statue of Liberty, will be immediately closed.

New applications for small business loans and loan guarantees will be immediately halted.

Research into life-threatening diseases and other areas will stop and new patients won’t be accepted into clinical trials at the National Institutes of Health.

Work to protect consumers, ranging from child product safety to financial security to the safety of hazardous waste facilities, will cease.

The EPA will halt non-essential inspections of chemical facilities and drinking water systems.
Permits and reviews for planned energy and transportations projects will stop, preventing companies from working on these projects.

Loans to rural communities will be halted.

Hundreds of thousands of Federal employees including many charged with protecting us from terrorist threats, defending our borders, inspecting our food, and keeping our skies safe will work without pay until the shutdown ends.

Hundreds of thousands of additional Federal workers will be immediately and indefinitely furloughed without pay.

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2013/10/01/whats-affected-government-shutdown


So why harm all these people and incur huge expense just to charge US for a stupid wall that Trump said over and over and over again that Mexico was going to pay for?

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Re: Mexico Will Pay for The Wall
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2017, 08:07:01 PM »
good, shut down the government, keep it shut down forever, the less governance we have the better.

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Re: Mexico Will Pay for The Wall
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2017, 08:59:39 PM »
good, shut down the government, keep it shut down forever, the less governance we have the better.

thanks for giving us the true moron perspective


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Re: Mexico Will Pay for The Wall
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2017, 10:07:33 PM »
thanks for giving us the true moron perspective

more central government is good for you?

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that says everything about your level of ability in the world.

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Re: Mexico Will Pay for The Wall
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2017, 10:16:46 PM »
more central government is good for you?

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that says everything about your level of ability in the world.

Central government maintains a reliable debt and equity market and that is "good" for me and everyone else too.  Even people like you who are too stupid to understand.

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Re: Mexico Will Pay for The Wall
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2017, 10:17:25 PM »
Central government maintains a reliable credit, debt and equity market and that is "good" for me and everyone else too.  Even people like you who are too stupid to understand.

you'll manage without

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Re: Mexico Will Pay for The Wall
« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2017, 10:21:40 PM »
you'll manage without

I won't and neither will you

Again, too stupid to understand

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Re: Mexico Will Pay for The Wall
« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2017, 10:26:04 PM »
I won't and neither will you

Again, too stupid to understand

Funny how I don't see that in your list of "catastrophic" events that would occur following a government shutdown.

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Re: Mexico Will Pay for The Wall
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2017, 08:06:36 AM »
Funny how I don't see that in your list of "catastrophic" events that would occur following a government shutdown.

that?

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Re: Mexico Will Pay for The Wall
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2017, 09:24:31 AM »
Hey at least if it gets shut down he can take credit for reducing the deficit like obama did even though he lambasted the reps for shutting down the govt.

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Re: Mexico Will Pay for The Wall
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2017, 09:32:53 AM »
Hey at least if it gets shut down he can take credit for reducing the deficit like obama did even though he lambasted the reps for shutting down the govt.

scroll up

shutting down the government costs more money than leaving it open

back to the main point

there is no justification to shut down the government to extort US tax dollars to pay for something that Trump said repeatedly that Mexico would pay for


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Re: Mexico Will Pay for The Wall
« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2017, 10:39:30 AM »
scroll up

shutting down the government costs more money than leaving it open

back to the main point

there is no justification to shut down the government to extort US tax dollars to pay for something that Trump said repeatedly that Mexico would pay for


Don't tell me tell obama he was the one saying he reduced the deficit when it was mainly due to the sequester.

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Re: Mexico Will Pay for The Wall
« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2017, 12:42:59 PM »
Don't tell me tell obama he was the one saying he reduced the deficit when it was mainly due to the sequester.

not sure what your point is in relation to Trump threatening to shut down the government to extort money to pay for a wall he insisted that Mexico would pay for.

Neither shutting down the government or paying for a wall is going to reduce the deficit

maybe you should start your own thread if you have a new topic you want to discuss