Is liberalism driven by low self esteem or sheer stupidity and autism?

[BBSSchlemiel]

I've been thinking about this here and there: why would people want to tear down a healthy society that they themselves are living in? My suspicion is that some, not all, are driven by a gut feeling that they suck and can't compete or are seriously envious of the middle class people they're constantly targeting.

I also think many are autistic and thereby have little common sense.

Many liberals are also psychopaths, I believe.

What do you think?

[Top Poodle]

why would people want to tear down a healthy society that they themselves are living in? My suspicion is that some, not all, are driven by a gut feeling that they suck and can't compete

that's exactly it

in a meritocracy only the strong succeed.  people who know that they tend to win in most situations therefore vote for such systems.  when an individual is strong, intelligent, and has life experiences to show that time and time again he comes out on top in competitions, he wants the free market, unhindered and pure.

on the contrary, the people who know they're weak, and can't succeed when in direct competition with others need to muddy the waters to get ahead.  or even to have a chance.  so they're drawn to big government, socialism, to obstructing the success of the individual and demanding repatriation of wealth to the entire group.

it's almost like if you watch a football match between a great team and a crappy one.  the great team wants to play pure football.  the crappy one knows they stand no chance, so they obstruct, obscure, stifle, cheat as much as possible, and ruin the game so that they might win on a fluke or technicality.

[robcguns]

I think liberals are plain retarded and just can't think like a normal human.

[Dave D]

that's exactly it

in a meritocracy only the strong succeed.  people who know that they tend to win in most situations therefore vote for such systems.  when an individual is strong, intelligent, and has life experiences to show that time and time again he comes out on top in competitions, he wants the free market, unhindered and pure.

on the contrary, the people who know they're weak, and can't succeed when in direct competition with others need to muddy the waters to get ahead.  or even to have a chance.  so they're drawn to big government, socialism, to obstructing the success of the individual and demanding repatriation of wealth to the entire group.

it's almost like if you watch a football match between a great team and a crappy one.  the great team wants to play pure football.  the crappy one knows they stand no chance, so they obstruct, obscure, stifle, cheat as much as possible, and ruin the game so that they might win on a fluke or technicality.

What football are you referring to in this match bro?

[Top Poodle]

there's also many more losers than winners in the world (obviously... the few strong rise, the masses get left behind), so support for socialism and liberalism is an inherit feature of any population just because of the natural distribution of ability.  

as you get to each progressively higher level of skill, there are less and less people there.

few winners, many losers, and the losers band together to stifle and obstruct individual success

[Top Poodle]

What football are you referring to in this match bro?

soccer.

[BBSSchlemiel]

that's exactly it

in a meritocracy only the strong succeed.  people who know that they tend to win in most situations therefore vote for such systems.  when an individual is strong, intelligent, and has life experiences to show that time and time again he comes out on top in competitions, he wants the free market, unhindered and pure.

on the contrary, the people who know they're weak, and can't succeed when in direct competition with others need to muddy the waters to get ahead.  or even to have a chance.  so they're drawn to big government, socialism, to obstructing the success of the individual and demanding repatriation of wealth to the entire group.

it's almost like if you watch a football match between a great team and a crappy one.  the great team wants to play pure football.  the crappy one knows they stand no chance, so they obstruct, obscure, stifle, cheat as much as possible, and ruin the game so that they might win on a fluke or technicality.

Good post!

I also think it can partly stem from many of them having all sorts of perversions, hangups, neuroses, and vices. It's kind of like the transgender phenomenon. I don't think they have "pride" no matter how much they boast of it. So instead of dealing with one's own issue in a constructive way, they just decide to bother the fuck or even harrass or attack normal people, especially normal whites.

Do you think that holds any weight too?

[Thin Lizzy]

Liberals seem to have a very distorted view of the world. They see it as a kind and gentle place that's always being exploited by man. The truth is the exact opposite. Nature is very cruel and unforgiving, The ocean doesn't give a shit if you drown. Floods, hurricanes  and tornadoes don't give a shit if they destroy your house.

The only reason most of us have a reasonably comfortable life because of the productive efforts of man.

[Top Poodle]

Good post!

I also think it can partly stem from many of them having all sorts of perversions, hangups, neuroses, and vices. It's kind of like the transgender phenomenon. I don't think they have "pride" no matter how much they boast of it. So instead of dealing with one's own issue in a constructive way, they just decide to bother the fuck or even harrass or attack normal people, especially normal whites.

Do you think that holds any weight too?

absolutely.  they have no pride -- all they have is shame.  as they should, the behaviors they engage in are NATURALLY SHAMEFUL.

shame is a way for the human, a complex social creature, to know that what he is doing is wrong.

they are trying to override the feelings of shame and disgust, almost to turn the table on us, the people who actually think the degeneracy is wrong, and try to shame US for thinking that way (the normal, regular way).

nature = man fucks woman, woman fucks man.  nothing else.

but they build up this artificial construct of "pride" as a way to try lessening the shame.  yet of course, they can't -- the shame comes from deep, deep down.  they're putting on veneer on an old, crumbling floor and claiming it's perfect and new.

no.  it's rotten underneath.  and all the freaks who fall into this sort of ideological thinking suffer from immense cognitive dissonance, even if they're unaware of it, and that just furthers their neuroticism  toward the world.  it's a vicious cycle.  

and it comes from weak minds.  minds that have been corrupted and twisted through the horrible education system in the west.  ie, the fourth grade REQUIRED READING LIST in california now includes "Jacob's new dress."  Common core math now asks questions such as "how do you make 10 from 8 and 5?"  A smart kid answers "you cannot make ten from eight and five," teacher says WRONG, YOU CAN, and goes through some convoluted explanation that makes literally no logical sense:




so the hard sciences and hard subjects are eroding and crumbling into decay, soft bullshit like gender studies takes prominence, and kids are raised outside of the influence of the family (mothers go to work, ffs who thought of that, mothers need to STAY AT HOME AND RAISE CHILDREN, that is their #1 calling.  not nannies raising kids, not daycares raising kids, MOTHERS), and the societal rot runs deep, america is morally and culturally bankrupt, we'll have a bit of a renaissance with gen z (the kids who are 13, 14, 15 today), but the ones who are children, being born to these libtard freaks who are in the 20s and 30s today, are going to be even more badly damaged than their parents

[Top Poodle]

Liberals seem to have a very distorted view of the world. They see it as a kind and gentle place that's always being exploited by man. The truth is the exact opposite. Nature is very cruel and unforgiving, The ocean doesn't give a shit if you drown. Floods, hurricanes  and tornadoes don't give a shit if they destroy your house.

The only reason most of us have a reasonably comfortable life because of the productive efforts of man -- the efforts they are trying to collectively destroy,

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[BBSSchlemiel]

absolutely.  they have no pride -- all they have is shame.  as they should, the behaviors they engage in are NATURALLY SHAMEFUL.

shame is a way for the human, a complex social creature, to know that what he is doing is wrong.

they are trying to override the feelings of shame and disgust, almost to turn the table on us, the people who actually think the degeneracy is wrong, and try to shame US for thinking that way (the normal, regular way).

nature = man fucks woman, woman fucks man.  nothing else.

but they build up this artificial construct of "pride" as a way to try lessening the shame.  yet of course, they can't -- the shame comes from deep, deep down.  they're putting on veneer on an old, crumbling floor and claiming it's perfect and new.

no.  it's rotten underneath.  and all the freaks who fall into this sort of ideological thinking suffer from immense cognitive dissonance, even if they're unaware of it, and that just furthers their neuroticism  toward the world.  it's a vicious cycle.  

and it comes from weak minds.  minds that have been corrupted and twisted through the horrible education system in the west.  ie, the fourth grade REQUIRED READING LIST in california now includes "Jacob's new dress."  Common core math now asks questions such as "how do you make 10 from 8 and 5?"  A smart kid answers "you cannot make ten from eight and five," teacher says WRONG, YOU CAN, and goes through some convoluted explanation that makes literally no logical sense:




so the hard sciences and hard subjects are eroding and crumbling into decay, soft bullshit like gender studies takes prominence, and kids are raised outside of the influence of the family (mothers go to work, ffs who thought of that, mothers need to STAY AT HOME AND RAISE CHILDREN, that is their #1 calling.  not nannies raising kids, not daycares raising kids, MOTHERS), and the societal rot runs deep, america is morally and culturally bankrupt, we'll have a bit of a renaissance with gen z (the kids who are 13, 14, 15 today), but the ones who are children, being born to these libtard freaks who are in the 20s and 30s today, are going to be even more badly damaged than their parents

This makes me very concerned in raising my own kid! I mean seriously!

[Never1AShow]

Many are having their bills paid for by others, either welfare state or parents of means.  So many of the weak pussy protest crowd are upper middle class or higher spoiled kids who never worked a day in their life.

[Tapeworm]

[Top Poodle]

This makes me very concerned in raising my own kid! I mean seriously!

i left the best university in the world two years in because it was fucking garbage, liberal trash (though i didn't know that *that* was the reason at the time), ten years ago

(well actually i got in ten years ago and left in 2010/2011, after two years of study, one year off, one month back and then gone for good since a few ventures took off and I was making excellent $$)

i pulled my younger brother out of university his first year

i pulled my younger younger brother, born in '97, out of HIGH SCHOOL in grade eleven.


when it's time for me to have kids, i would never in a million years raise them in the west.  probably in russia, because i'm a huge fan of what putin's done.  ofc i'd have to learn russian for that....

otherwise in the FSU countries, or the visegrad block, or something in eastern europe where traditional values still hold true.

but russia is the big power, i think, that rejects all this fucking garbage killing the west

[BBSSchlemiel]

Many are having their bills paid for by others, either welfare state or parents of means.  So many of the weak pussy protest crowd are upper middle class or higher spoiled kids who never worked a day in their life.

Fair point. But I've also heard liberal Views espoused by upper class folks on occasion, though in alll cases they were from a doughy limp wrist.

Then there are those who are not liberal who are all for immigration so long as such immigrants are "hard working", thereby making it difficult for their own damn children go get a job.

[Top Poodle]

Fair point. But I've also heard liberal Views espoused by upper class folks on occasion, though in alll cases they were from a doughy limp wrist.

Then there are those who are not liberal who are all for immigration so long as such immigrants are "hard working", thereby making it difficult for their own damn children go get a job.

we all don't really mind immigration so long as it's LEGAL and the country has safeguards in place against foreign conquest of their land by other nations due to ASSIMILATION and INTEGRATION laws.

for example, canada has none of that, so the west coast is being colonized by china all legal and nice



(japan does a great job ensuring assimilation, fyi)

[Parker]

Good post!

 So instead of dealing with one's own issue in a constructive way...

Do you think that holds any weight too?

Jordan Petersen had talked about this last year on Joe Rogan's podcast.
Here he is this year, "Sort Yourself Out"

[Top Poodle]

peterson is good for the blue pill crowd, but for some reason i don't really like him -- he's too soft for me.

like he says good things, but i keep waiting for something PROFOUND and i've never found it

on the flipside, i found it in Inessa S's translations of putin speaking (directly, first-hand source, no media filter)

check out the Inessa S youtube channel for anybody curious.  i had no idea putin was that smart before a month ago, when i stumbled on that channel randomly

putin talks about the downfall of the west, corruption of values, etc etc etc, all the stuff we hate

[Never1AShow]

Many of the liberals are kids whose parents float them through college and well past, and were indoctrinated during higher education to the "enlightened" sensibilities of being a pussy.

Concerning the immigration, it's tied to welfare, education, health care, crime, everything.  Many would not care at all if they were here illegally, if they were not also taking all of these public services to the tune of 100 billion plus a year.

[Top Poodle]

Many of the liberals are kids whose parents float them through college and well past, and were indoctrinated during higher education to the "enlightened" sensibilities of being a pussy.

Concerning the immigration, it's tied to welfare, education, health care, crime, everything.  Many would not care at all if they were here illegally, if they were not also taking all of these public services to the tune of 100 billion plus a year.

i'd care, i dont want my country falling into the hands of a different fucking race

[BBSSchlemiel]

Many of the liberals are kids whose parents float them through college and well past, and were indoctrinated during higher education to the "enlightened" sensibilities of being a pussy.

Concerning the immigration, it's tied to welfare, education, health care, crime, everything.  Many would not care at all if they were here illegally, if they were not also taking all of these public services to the tune of 100 billion plus a year.

Legal immigration is not good either as it stifles the wages and entry into jobs for those already here! Not to mention continuing to change our entire culture!

[Thin Lizzy]

Another issue is a cognitive dissonance and a lack of understanding of economic laws. For example, the whole free college thing.

Do you really think that the people who support this have given a moment of thought to whether the professors will be working for free or the administrative staff, or the maintenance staff etc.?

[Parker]

peterson is good for the blue pill crowd, but for some reason i don't really like him -- he's too soft for me.

like he says good things, but i keep waiting for something PROFOUND and i've never found it

on the flipside, i found it in Inessa S's translations of putin speaking (directly, first-hand source, no media filter)

check out the Inessa S youtube channel for anybody curious.  i had no idea putin was that smart before a month ago, when i stumbled on that channel randomly

putin talks about the downfall of the west, corruption of values, etc etc etc, all the stuff we hate

To me he is straightforward, simple. My expectations for him is that of a profound sage, but someone who points out what we pass by everyday, yet ignore.

Putin makes a good point, but he is trying to re-unify the old Soviet Union. He also has to deal with the massive corruption of his own country and keep the oligarchy happy, yet keep them contained. I mean their military is in dire need of upgrading, tanks falling apart, aircraft carriers in abysmal condition, and jets needing upgrading or replacing. If only he had our defense budget.

[Tapeworm]

Another issue is a cognitive dissonance and a lack of understanding of economic laws. For example, the whole free college thing.

Do you really think that the people who support this have given a moment of thought to whether the professors will be working for free or the administrative staff, or the maintenance staff etc.?

What percentage of the military budget would fund state schools?  Idk but I'm guessing it would be a small slice of the pie and money better spent.

It would yield a better educational result than the current business model which is perfectly willing to churn out retards as long as they'll accept the uni mortgage.

[Parker]

Another issue is a cognitive dissonance and a lack of understanding of economic laws. For example, the whole free college thing.

Do you really think that the people who support this have given a moment of thought to whether the professors will be working for free or the administrative staff, or the maintenance staff etc.?

thomas Sowell covers this. And so has Milton Friedman