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Re: Tattoos reduce endurance in athletes.
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2017, 10:45:50 AM »
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Re: Tattoos reduce endurance in athletes.
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2017, 10:57:04 AM »
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Re: Tattoos reduce endurance in athletes.
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2017, 12:12:09 PM »
http://www.healthline.com/health-news/do-tattoos-affect-sweat

They are full of shit. I am covered and have been for many years and I sweat like a fucking pig just trying to fart. Hell I am soaked just replying to this thread.  :'(

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Re: Tattoos reduce endurance in athletes.
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2017, 12:41:17 PM »
not all of them

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Re: Tattoos reduce endurance in athletes.
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2017, 01:46:07 PM »
Injecting ink under your skin can never be a healthy thing... not physically, not mentally...

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Re: Tattoos reduce endurance in athletes.
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2017, 01:56:50 PM »
Injecting ink under your skin can never be a healthy thing... not physically, not mentally...

Can you describe the causal link between tattoos and mental health? That is, how does getting tattoos cause mental harm?
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Re: Tattoos reduce endurance in athletes.
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2017, 01:59:01 PM »
Can you describe the causal link between tattoos and mental health? That is, how does getting tattoos cause mental harm?

http://apt.rcpsych.org/content/16/4/281

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Re: Tattoos reduce endurance in athletes.
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2017, 02:04:03 PM »
http://apt.rcpsych.org/content/16/4/281

But he stated it can NEVER be a healthy thing. That's a stark generalization.

Clearly, many people live their whole lives loving their tattoos.

I would argue against the idea that it's "never" a good thing.
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Re: Tattoos reduce endurance in athletes.
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2017, 02:08:00 PM »
Can you describe the causal link between tattoos and mental health? That is, how does getting tattoos cause mental harm?

Call it common sense. Ink has made to write or print, not to inject in a living organism. It's just as retarded as putting something in your mouth which is smoking.

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Re: Tattoos reduce endurance in athletes.
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2017, 02:08:04 PM »
They are full of shit. I am covered and have been for many years and I sweat like a fucking pig just trying to fart. Hell I am soaked just replying to this thread.  :'(

I think you proved the study's  point. Pigs do not have many sweat glands and can not regulate their temperature- much like a person with too many tattoos.

www.livescience.com/32118-do-pigs-sweat.html

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Re: Tattoos reduce endurance in athletes.
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2017, 02:12:45 PM »
Call it common sense. Ink has made to write or print, not to inject in a living organism. It's just as retarded as putting something in your mouth which is smoking.

But you said that it is NEVER a good idea to get tattoos as this would lead to mental harm.

Clearly, it does not always lead to mental harm. Many people are perfectly fine with their tattoos.

There is a higher correlation of the dangers of smoking when compared to tattoos. It's really a horrible analogy to use. It's not even remotely comparable.
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Re: Tattoos reduce endurance in athletes.
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2017, 02:17:25 PM »
But you said that it is NEVER a good idea to get tattoos as this would lead to mental harm.

Clearly, it does not always lead to mental harm. Many people are perfectly fine with their tattoos.

There is a higher correlation of the dangers of smoking when compared to tattoos. It's really a horrible analogy to use. It's not even remotely comparable.

He never made the statement "it is NEVER a good idea to get tattoos as this would lead to mental harm. "  You did. So in effect you are arguing with yourself in this thread.

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Re: Tattoos reduce endurance in athletes.
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2017, 02:20:56 PM »
He never made the statement "it is NEVER a good idea to get tattoos as this would lead to mental harm. "  You did. So in effect you are arguing with yourself in this thread.


Oh really. He said, "Injecting ink under your skin can never be a healthy thing... not physically, not mentally..."

Right there, he stated that getting a tattoo can never be a good thing mentally.

This implies that getting a tattoo would lead to mental harm.
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Re: Tattoos reduce endurance in athletes.
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2017, 02:24:58 PM »
But he stated it can NEVER be a healthy thing. That's a stark generalization.

Clearly, many people live their whole lives loving their tattoos.

I would argue against the idea that it's "never" a good thing.

You asked for a casual link , I provided one.

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Re: Tattoos reduce endurance in athletes.
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2017, 02:26:28 PM »
You asked for a casual link , I provided one.

Point taken.

And I am not sure if you provided a causal link or a correlation. I'd have to read the study.

Heck, the link between cancer and smoking is more of a correlation than a causation, since we can't break people into an experimental and control group. But I think the correlation is pretty damn high that they may have established some sense of causation. But the link between tattooing and mental health has nowhere near that level of correlation to infer a causal link.

Thus, I doubt you provided evidence for a causal link.
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Re: Tattoos reduce endurance in athletes.
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2017, 02:29:07 PM »
But you said that it is NEVER a good idea to get tattoos as this would lead to mental harm.

Clearly, it does not always lead to mental harm. Many people are perfectly fine with their tattoos.

There is a higher correlation of the dangers of smoking when compared to tattoos. It's really a horrible analogy to use. It's not even remotely comparable.

Maybe I formulated my statement wrong. I consider it as mental illness when someone even considers to get ink right under the skin with a distracting image as a result. Granted we all make impulsive decisions, but getting a tattoo is something which is almost irreversible.

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Re: Tattoos reduce endurance in athletes.
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2017, 02:30:35 PM »
Maybe I formulated my statement wrong. I consider it as mental illness when someone even considers to get ink right under the skin with a distracting image as a result. Granted we all make impulsive decisions, but getting a tattoo is something which is almost irreversible.

Which mental illness would you say the person has?
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Re: Tattoos reduce endurance in athletes.
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2017, 02:39:36 PM »
Which mental illness would you say the person has?

Of course there's no official DSM-IV code and every person with a tattoo is different, but in general I would say a mix of being impulsive, lack of respect for your own body/being estranged from nature and sensitive to getting attention.

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Re: Tattoos reduce endurance in athletes.
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2017, 02:40:34 PM »
If I was mentally healthy I wouldn't have been on this board for 14 years.

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Re: Tattoos reduce endurance in athletes.
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2017, 02:45:06 PM »
Of course there's no official DSM-IV code and every person with a tattoo is different, but I in general would say a mix of being impulsive, lack of respect for your own body/being estranged from nature and sensitive to getting attention.

DSM-IV-TR is no longer in use. It's the DSM-V.

If you're going to say that X population had a mental illness, at least try to keep up with the literature.  ;D

How is it impulsive when people sometimes wait 10 years to get a tattoo? I wouldn't consider that impulsive.

If getting tattoos is disrespectful toward ones body, then so is doing steroids or drinking. Although we would have to determine what you mean by "lack of respect."

I believe people who compete in bodybuilding like yourself do it for attention. I guess you're not that much different than those who get tattoos.
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Re: Tattoos reduce endurance in athletes.
« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2017, 02:57:25 PM »
DSM-IV-TR is no longer in use. It's the DSM-V.

If you're going to say that X population had a mental illness, at least try to keep up with the literature.  ;D

How is it impulsive when people sometimes wait 10 years to get a tattoo? I wouldn't consider that impulsive.

If getting tattoos is disrespectful toward ones body, then so is doing steroids or drinking. Although we would have to determine what you mean by "lack of respect."

I believe people who compete in bodybuilding like yourself do it for attention. I guess you're not that much different than those who get tattoos.

Touche about the DSM-V ;)
I said 'in general'. I see plenty of kids(!) around the age of 16 with their first tattoo, and often that's already a large one, such as a sleeve or a 'Mona Lisa' on their back :-X
I wrote "Granted we all make impulsive decisions", but maybe "Granted we all make dumb decisions" would be more precise. As for competing, I can honestly say that I've never been an attention-whore; it's rather the challenge itself.


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Re: Tattoos reduce endurance in athletes.
« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2017, 12:50:51 AM »
Can you describe the causal link between tattoos and mental health? That is, how does getting tattoos cause mental harm?

its the wrong way around, poor mental health causes tattoos...

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Re: Tattoos reduce endurance in athletes.
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2017, 12:54:57 AM »
Touche about the DSM-V ;)
I said 'in general'. I see plenty of kids(!) around the age of 16 with their first tattoo, and often that's already a large one, such as a sleeve or a 'Mona Lisa' on their back :-X
I wrote "Granted we all make impulsive decisions", but maybe "Granted we all make dumb decisions" would be more precise. As for competing, I can honestly say that I've never been an attention-whore; it's rather the challenge itself.



i'd rather they get that tattoo at 16 than spontaneously decide they're the opposite sex and chop off their penis and balls to replace with an ax wound...

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Re: Tattoos reduce endurance in athletes.
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2017, 01:32:06 AM »
Even without the ink, the procedure itself, multiple skin perfurations of the skin, causes scar tissue. Scar tissue doesnt perform as well as virgin unharmed tissue.