Conor McGregor - Should work on his gas tank

[shiftedShapes]

This doesn't make sense to me he is a guy that's explosive and strong with probably a lot of fast twitch muscle.  He probably is physiologically incapable of developing elite endurance and even if he could it would probably come at the expense of strength.  Doesn't anyone understand this?  He doesn't even seem to understand it.  I think he's getting a lot of smoke blown up his ass, by his advisers which is great for his confidence but terrible for his game plan.  Yes he put on a respectable show, maybe better than if he was focused on a quick KO and gassed even earlier, but he gave up whatever small chance he had to win by fighting to go the distance.

Asking him to fight for 12 rounds is like asking Usain Bolt to start working on his 10k.  A sport like boxing with the padded gloves further stacks the odds against him because not only does it take away his kicking, knees, elbows etc, it diminishes the effect of his one remaining tool knockout counter punching.  Nevermind the fact that those judges were never going to give him a fair shot.

What a BS sport.  The reason people liked Tyson is because he tried to win with explosive power instead of the ability exert medium effort for an hour and take a lot of punches.  Who aspires to have those skills?

[oldtimer1]

Conor should have worked on his non existent jab. He kept using his right to measure for the big left shot but you're not going to get away with that with a boxer of Mayweather's magnitude.

MMA is clearly more anaerobic while boxing is more aerobic. Also Mayweather conserved his gas tank while Conor was using everything up.  It's like when you learn Jui Jitsu you fight like a lunatic with no clear goal wasting energy.  Then as you advance you only exert when you have a clear goal of where you are going.

[Desolate]

The guy punches like a girl.

He should just walk away after duping the world for something like 70 to 100 million dollars.

Take a hint. You already have two cauliflower ears going.

I doubt the grey matter can take many more shots.

Float away, you fairy.

[Matt]

I think he's getting a lot of smoke blown up his ass

My friend said he was at the house of a dental hygienist in her bedroom and that she asked to blow Coke up his ass.  Then he blew Coke up her ass.

[Coach is Back!]

This doesn't make sense to me he is a guy that's explosive and strong with probably a lot of fast twitch muscle.  He probably is physiologically incapable of developing elite endurance and even if he could it would probably come at the expense of strenght.  Doesn't anyone understand this?  He doesn't even seem to understand it.  I think he's getting a lot of smoke blown up his ass, by his advisers which is great for his confidence but terrible for his game plan.  Yes he put on a respectable show, maybe better than if he was focused on a quick KO and gassed even earier, but he gave up whatever small chance he had to win by fighting to go the distance.

Asking him to fight for 12 rounds is like asking Usain Bolt to start working on his 10k.  A sport like boxing with the padded gloves further stacks the odds against him because not only does it take away his kicking, knees, elbows etc, it diminishes the effect of his one remaining tool knockout counter punching.  Nevermind the fact that those judges were never going to give him a fair shot.

What a BS sport.  The reason people liked Tyson is because he tried to win with explosive power instead of the ability exert medium effort for an hour and take a lot of punches.  Who aspires to have those skills?

His handlers blew it. MMA is anaerobic, Boxing is aerobic. They didn't take into consideration the energy systems (or flat out didn't know or understand). I had him going down in the seventh. His hands started dropping in the sixth to early seventh he looked to be trained for five...for MMA. Boxing is another world when it comes to training and conditioning.

[Rami]

Since his drop in performance comes so suddenly and he get weak legs like he says, I think it has more to do with blood sugar levels than anything else. The carb loading is important since he cuts so much weight. Probably using insulin during carb loading to maximize it, like most athletes. It cant be tested for. There is no way you can push that much weight back into the muscles over night without insulin. He probably cuts too much and has to carb load too much. I bet he felt fine in the gym for 12 rounds when he didn't cut.

[Coach is Back!]

Since his drop in performance comes so suddenly and he get weak legs like he says, I think it has more to do with blood sugar levels than anything else. The carb loading is important since he cuts so much weight. Probably using insulin during carb loading to maximize it, like most athletes. It cant be tested for. There is no way you can push that much weight back into the muscles over night without insulin. He probably cuts too much and has to carb load too much. I bet he felt fine in the gym for 12 rounds when he didn't cut.

He weighed in at 153 and was 170 the day of the fight. Glycerol is commonly used but in his case he conditioned wrong. If anything he gained too much. Insulin? Are you serious? The carbs conversion to sugar would send him through the roof. No, his trainers were idiots plain and simple.

[dj181]

The guy punches like a girl.

THIS

his punching techique is almost as bad as marius pudz

He weighed in at 153 and was 170 the day of the fight. Glycerol is commonly used but in his case he conditioned wrong. If anything he gained too much. Insulin? Are you serious? The carbs conversion to sugar would send him through the roof. No, his trainers were idiots plain and simple.

you can gain back a shit load for bench press comps and perform fine coz all you do is lay your assistance down on a bench and press the weight

boxing is a whole different story

how much weight do you think one could cut and gain back and still perform at optimal levels?

[Coach is Back!]

THIS

his punching techique is almost as bad as marius pudz
you can gain back a shit load for bench press comps and perform fine coz all you do is lay your assistance down on a bench and press the weight

boxing is a whole different story

how much weight do you think one could cut and gain back and still perform at optimal levels?

You can't compare a bp comp to boxing or MMA.. I would hope you knew this. But in answer to your question and I've said this before, if a fighter knows he has a fight 8-10-12 or longer weeks prior why in the hell are you starting the cut 2/3/4 weeks out regardless of what your walking weight is? I never take fighters with last minute fights that have to do hard cuts. If McGregor did a hard cut right before then the dumb fuck deserves to lose given the time he had.

[dj181]

You can't compare a bp comp to boxing or MMA.. I would hope you knew this. But in answer to your question and I've said this before, if a fighter knows he has a fight 8-10-12 or longer weeks prior why in the hell are you starting the cut 2/3/4 weeks out regardless of what your walking weight is? I never take fighters with last minute fights that have to do hard cuts. If McGregor did a hard cut right before then the dumb fuck deserves to lose given the time he had.

yeah i know boxing is much different than a bench comp

but i'm talking about the final cut 8-12 hours before weigh in where you empty your bowels and lose as much water as possible

best i did was 9 pounds in 8-12 hours

Doug Heath did 21 fucking pounds in 8-12 hours

JM Blakely did 17 pounds in 8-12

some of these mmgay turds claim they lose 30 fucking pounds in 12 hours

so how much can a boxer lose in the final 12?

[shiftedShapes]

His handlers blew it. MMA is anaerobic, Boxing is aerobic. They didn't take into consideration the energy systems (or flat out didn't know or understand). I had him going down in the seventh. His hands started dropping in the sixth to early seventh he looked to be trained for five...for MMA. Boxing is another world when it comes to training and conditioning.

Coach, is it even possible to take a guy that has mediocre cardio and turn him into a cardio beast if he is primarily a fast twitch strength or explosive athlete?  If it can be done at all does said athlete lose their pop in the process?

[shiftedShapes]

Conor should have worked on his non existent jab. He kept using his right to measure for the big left shot but you're not going to get away with that with a boxer of Mayweather's magnitude.

MMA is clearly more anaerobic while boxing is more aerobic. Also Mayweather conserved his gas tank while Conor was using everything up.  It's like when you learn Jui Jitsu you fight like a lunatic with no clear goal wasting energy.  Then as you advance you only exert when you have a clear goal of where you are going.

I would bet that bear knuckles no rules fighting would be even more anaerobic.  The more that is done to mitigate the offensive power of an explosion, the longer fights will go on average and the more cardio comes into play.

[dj181]

Coach, is it even possible to take a guy that has mediocre cardio and turn him into a cardio beast if he is primarily a fast twitch strength or explosive athlete?  If it can be done at all does said athlete lose their pop in the process?

I got fit as fuck training with my boxing coach and still kept my punching power intact

[che]

I got fit as fuck training with my boxing coach and still kept my punching power intact

Are you an amateur or a Pro ?

[robcguns]

The guy punches like a girl.

He should just walk away after duping the world for something like 70 to 100 million dollars.

Take a hint. You already have two cauliflower ears going.

I doubt the grey matter can take many more shots.

Float away, you fairy.

This

[FREAKgeek]

This doesn't make sense to me he is a guy that's explosive and strong with probably a lot of fast twitch muscle.  He probably is physiologically incapable of developing elite endurance and even if he could it would probably come at the expense of strenght.  Doesn't anyone understand this?  He doesn't even seem to understand it.  I think he's getting a lot of smoke blown up his ass, by his advisers which is great for his confidence but terrible for his game plan.  Yes he put on a respectable show, maybe better than if he was focused on a quick KO and gassed even earier, but he gave up whatever small chance he had to win by fighting to go the distance.

Asking him to fight for 12 rounds is like asking Usain Bolt to start working on his 10k.  A sport like boxing with the padded gloves further stacks the odds against him because not only does it take away his kicking, knees, elbows etc, it diminishes the effect of his one remaining tool knockout counter punching.  Nevermind the fact that those judges were never going to give him a fair shot.

What a BS sport.  The reason people liked Tyson is because he tried to win with explosive power instead of the ability exert medium effort for an hour and take a lot of punches.  Who aspires to have those skills?

I don't think Conner has bad cardio, he just doesn't have the boxing experience. His brain probably thinks it's an mma duration. Improved cardio can just be from improved efficiency.

MMA is cardio intensive. Just look at the old school fights and see how gassed most fighters were. Oleg vs Tank comes to mind, they were both flat on their backs gasping for air lol.

Lance Armstrong had insane cardio for the tour de France, but when he ran for a marathon he was good but nothing special. Lack of sport specific efficiency .

[Taffin]

My friend said he was at the house of a dental hygienist in her bedroom and that she asked to blow Coke up his ass.  Then he blew Coke up her ass.

 

Now that's what I call a f**king party!!!

[Taffin]

While we're on the subject, I heard that's another one of the ways Rich Piana used to take his pre-workout... 

[dj181]

Are you an amateur or a Pro ?

neither, but I might try some amateur bouts once I find a new coach although it's a bit to late to start a career at 42

wish to fuck I would have started earlier as I just wasted my time doing "bodybuilding" and taking gear 

[Royalty]

The guy punches like a girl.

He should just walk away after duping the world for something like 70 to 100 million dollars.

Take a hint. You already have two cauliflower ears going.

I doubt the grey matter can take many more shots.

Float away, you fairy.

He KO'd Jose Aldo in 13 seconds. He has power.

[Darren Avey]

ALdo has a chin made out of polystyrene/

[Royalty]

ALdo has a chin made out of polystyrene/

I think Aldo has chin. But Aldo walking into the punch.

[cephissus]

I agree completely, shifted.  But it's easy to get confused when you're young and have people like coach who make a living telling you some magical training technique will suddenly make you a marathon man.

[cephissus]

Are you an amateur or a Pro ?

Welcome back!  Why is che now crossed out

[cephissus]

Coach, is it even possible to take a guy that has mediocre cardio and turn him into a cardio beast if he is primarily a fast twitch strength or explosive athlete?  If it can be done at all does said athlete lose their pop in the process?

I'm sure coach will go on at length about the science that makes it oh so possible, but we all know no amount or type of training is going to turn yoel Romero into Demetrius Johnson.  The world is full of top professionals who had access to all the best trainers and never made the transition.