Thoughts on Starting Strength

[The Genetic Freak]

A guy at my gym is doing SS and he's carrying on like he's seen the light and everyone else is wrong. I don't get it. Eat like a pig, get fat, neglect lats, calfs and arms, and then what?  I told him thanks but I'll stick with Arnold's Encyclopedia.

[Nether Animal]

[Nether Animal]

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[Thin Lizzy]

I agree with Rippletoe about the benefits of barbell training as opposed to any other type of resistance  program. However he acts like weightlifting is the be-all end-all of athletics when it's really just an ancillary activity. Benching, squatting, or dead lifting another few pounds isn't going to make you a better football player and it might increase  your probability of getting injured as you're so beat up from the weights.

[polychronopolous]

[Coach is Back!]

Rippetoe is a idiot when it comes to squatting

[Thin Lizzy]

A guy at my gym is doing SS and he's carrying on like he's seen the light and everyone else is wrong. I don't get it. Eat like a pig, get fat, neglect lats, calfs and arms, and then what?  I told him thanks but I'll stick with Arnold's Encyclopedia.

Another thing you have to remember is that the bread-and-butter for strength and conditioning coaches is football particularly the line positions. So, they're not really worried about low body fat percentages.

Rippetoe is a idiot when it comes to squatting

Why? I'm not really familiar with his in-depth thoughts on the subject.

[_bruce_]

Rippetoe is a idiot when it comes to squatting

And why?

[dj181]

can he make a jab-jab-cross combo on an end to end bag 

[BBSSchlemiel]

There are far better programs for beginners.

But actually all a beginner needs is five to seven exercises done for two to three sets done thrice per week. And if designed properly, will be designed with far more structural balance in mind, with subsequently and likely a better looking body in three months!

[polychronopolous]

can he make a jab-jab-cross combo on an end to end bag 

With guns like these who needs end bags?

[dj181]

With guns like these who needs end bags?

 

[Powerlift66]

And why?

Is it the way he teaches form to newbs? (Basically bend FWD like a good morning)?

[DanM]

Any beginner could do far worse than picking up starting strength, hating on rippetoe seems to be the trendy thing in strength and conditioning these days and the guy is far from perfect but does give some decent advice.

[BB]

Program solid, just swap out  the Rippetoe squat for a mid-bar or high bar version.

Round file the diet advice. The whole GOMAD thing started with guys that didn't care how they looked, they only cared about strength. Rippetoe himself even waffles a bit on it.

The father of the heavy milk based diet J C Hise -

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If you want to do a 5 x 5 program, try Starr first, I've always found his stuff more thoughtful.

[polychronopolous]

Brett McKay from Art of Manliness updates his progress since working with Rippetoe.

Put on 40 pounds of body weight. Press, squat and deadlift all greatly increased.

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[dj181]

Brett McKay from Art of Manliness updates his progress since working with Rippetoe.

Put on 40 pounds of body weight. Press, squat and deadlift all greatly increased.

@ :33

fella seems like a cool dude and pretty handsome to boot (no homo)

in my experience strength gains had little to do with size gains

for example my best lean size was a buck 70 @ 6-7% and I was weaker than I am now 

now I'm near 25 pounds lighter @ 5% but I can curl and bench more weight than I could then

when I was a buck 70 I was on gear but I trained with "light weights" using constant tension and doing sets and reps

what's strange about now is that I've gone from 15% to 5% and I put on 2 lean pounds while losing about 20 pounds of body fat while eating one fucking meal a day most days consisting of coffee and either a mcdouble or a quarter pounder

and I've been off of gear since November

looks like I won't be able to make flyweight as I'm over 30 pounds away from it and I have less than 8 pounds of body fat and from all the shit I've read on the subject they say men must have at least 5.5 pounds of body fat to function properly

[Dr Dutch]

Squat, deadlift, clean & press, all like crazy.
Rest, eat, rest, eat........
repeat twice a week for 1,5 yrs,

BE BIG !!!!!

[Nether Animal]

[Nether Animal]

GOMAD of peace

[Nether Animal]

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[Nether Animal]

[NaturalWonder83]

I always thought his squats form looked odd

[Coach is Back!]

I always thought his squats form looked odd

If it looks like shit, smells like shit....it's shit.

[Tennisballz]

I don't know why anyone would do anything that crazy for natural muscle building.  You can't build a ton of muscle as a natural and 80-90% comes in the first couple years.  I honestly don't even believe that you need more than a few hundred calorie surplus to gain the majority of your natural muscle potential.