When is it time to do TRT?

[Agnostic007]

age is one factor, but only in regards to a generality that after a certain age, test levels tend to drop. But as everyone is saying, without a blood test, you don't have adequate info to proceed. I went to a urologist that was recommended to me by a friend. He did the work up and I was around 400. The doc is open to working with me by how I feel, etc and has me on 11 pellets every 3.5 months which keeps me in the 900-1000 range. Been doing this for about 2 years. Insurance covers it 100% which is nice as it is a $2200 procedure. 

[Rascal full]

When you look it the mirror and see this, then the time for trt was 10 years ago

LMAO

[Kwon]

When you look it the mirror and see this, then the time for trt was 10 years ago

[Emmortal]

I'm 40 and my test levels are in the mid 500's, not the greatest but also not terrible considering I was on for almost 7 years straight and didn't do any PCT when I came off heh.  Don't feel like I need TRT any time soon.

[Mayday]

TRT at 40?... that's way too early.  I did not start feeling the effects of lower T until I was late 40's. 

Good for you. I was 36 with test levels of a 60yr old.

High stress from senior level job and other life situation stress factors killed it. Utterly ruined me emotionally first and then thr physical side happened which hits you mentally again.

If you dont feel right, go with your gut and check it out.

Rhetoric like 'thats to young' is why the suicide rate for young males is such an issue regardless of the cause. Low test conquers even the strongest willpower.  Why fight a losing battle and ruin your life because society thinks you are being 'weak'. 

[Griffith]

Good for you. I was 36 with test levels of a 60yr old.

High stress from senior level job and other life situation stress factors killed it. Utterly ruined me emotionally first and then thr physical side happened which hits you mentally again.

If you dont feel right, go with your gut and check it out.

Rhetoric like 'thats to young' is why the suicide rate for young males is such an issue regardless of the cause. Low test conquers even the strongest willpower.  Why fight a losing battle and ruin your life because society thinks you are being 'weak'. 

What physical and mental side effects did you have?

We're you still making gains in the gym at least or was that noticeably affected?

[Powerlift66]

TRT is good. Got mine checked at age 50, test was 253. 11 years on Statins just killed my test levels.
(Guess where testosterone is made in the body, in cholesterol, kill your lipid levels, down go your test levels).

200 mg per week has me up near the high end now (1100).
Life changing...

[oldgolds]

Here's a novel idea....How about living a natural, drug free life?
If you don't have the hormones to maintain muscle, find another hobby...

[tres_taco_combo]

Here's a novel idea....How about living a natural, drug free life?
If you don't have the hormones to maintain muscle, find another hobby...

i think the guys here are more about feeling like a man again, sex drive, energy and everything else more than building a 20 inch arm

[Henda]

i think the guys here are more about feeling like a man again, sex drive, energy and everything else more than building a 20 inch arm

Haha exactly, low t feels like fucking shit and ruins any enjoyment of life

[oldtimer1]

Just know this is life time thing. After being on test for years there is a good chance your own body won't make any test anymore. Another thing is the treatment for an enlarged prostate that happens in huge numbers after 55 is to stop testosterone production. How will you look at 60 with no TRT and taking a pill to cut off your own production?  There has been a study that says there is an increased risk of cardio vascular risk with TRT. Of course the studies sponsored by the TRT companies dispute that. One doctor I read said taking test increases the thickness or viscosity of blood leading to an increased risk of cardio vascular problems. A lot of older guys take a baby aspirin a day to thin their blood.

I know two guys that are on TRT from the same doctor I believe. Instead of gels they are injecting test. Judging by the difference in their physiques they are injecting a lot more that what would be used for "therapy."

[phreak]

Just know this is life time thing. After being on test for years there is a good chance your own body won't make any test anymore. Another thing is the treatment for an enlarged prostate that happens in huge numbers after 55 is to stop testosterone production. How will you look at 60 with no TRT and taking a pill to cut off your own production?  There has been a study that says there is an increased risk of cardio vascular risk with TRT. Of course the studies sponsored by the TRT companies dispute that. One doctor I read said taking test increases the thickness or viscosity of blood leading to an increased risk of cardio vascular problems. A lot of older guys take a baby aspirin a day to thin their blood.

I know two guys that are on TRT from the same doctor I believe. Instead of gels they are injecting test. Judging by the difference in their physiques they are injecting a lot more that what would be used for "therapy."

People take all sorts of medication for decades, why is this any different? Should people with depression live natural and stop taking zoloft? Should people with allergies man up and stop taking benadryl? Fuck that shit. It's all about quality of life, not living it as 'naturally' as possible according to someone else's standards.

[judochoke]

I take a 324 grain aspirin every day. My blood is not thick at all. 😎😎😎😎

[Powerlift66]

Here's a novel idea....How about living a natural, drug free life?
If you don't have the hormones to maintain muscle, find another hobby...

Here's a novel idea as well, fuck off. 

Just kidding...

[ChristopherA]

When you look it the mirror and see this, then the time for trt was 10 years ago

If i saw that in the mirror I would kill myself. Well maybe jus fake killing myself, develop a serious drinking problem and start sucking off dudes

[Griffith]

Here's a novel idea....How about living a natural, drug free life?
If you don't have the hormones to maintain muscle, find another hobby...

Nothing wrong with using drugs or prescription medication if it can relatively safely improve your quality of life.

[Earl1972]

Just know this is life time thing. After being on test for years there is a good chance your own body won't make any test anymore. Another thing is the treatment for an enlarged prostate that happens in huge numbers after 55 is to stop testosterone production. How will you look at 60 with no TRT and taking a pill to cut off your own production?  There has been a study that says there is an increased risk of cardio vascular risk with TRT. Of course the studies sponsored by the TRT companies dispute that. One doctor I read said taking test increases the thickness or viscosity of blood leading to an increased risk of cardio vascular problems. A lot of older guys take a baby aspirin a day to thin their blood.

I know two guys that are on TRT from the same doctor I believe. Instead of gels they are injecting test. Judging by the difference in their physiques they are injecting a lot more that what would be used for "therapy."

have you ever used steroids?

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[Mayday]

What physical and mental side effects did you have?

We're you still making gains in the gym at least or was that noticeably affected?

Depression. Emotional rollercoaster ride. Some days driving to work i wanted to ball my eyes out but couldnt understand why.

Physical was ED after a traumatic/stressful event which made me freak out and hits of depression scared me so much i saw a clinic and never looked back. The depression was the deciding factor. It still scares me today after years.

I hadnt trained in the gym for years but was an avid cyclist so i exercised a good amount.

When i got on trt i went back to the gym. So for me it was trt first and as a result i went back to the gym. Feel great. Look great.

I was already at the stage in life with wife, kids, career, nice things so it wasnt anything about muscles or the physical side. I just wanted to feel normal again and now that i do i can enjoy more things in life.

[Griffith]

Depression. Emotional rollercoaster ride. Some days driving to work i wanted to ball my eyes out but couldnt understand why.

Physical was ED after a traumatic/stressful event which made me freak out and hits of depression scared me so much i saw a clinic and never looked back. The depression was the deciding factor. It still scares me today after years.

I hadnt trained in the gym for years but was an avid cyclist so i exercised a good amount.

When i got on trt i went back to the gym. So for me it was trt first and as a result i went back to the gym. Feel great. Look great.

I was already at the stage in life with wife, kids, career, nice things so it wasnt anything about muscles or the physical side. I just wanted to feel normal again and now that i do i can enjoy more things in life.

Thanks for the detailed reply. Glad it's working out for you.