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Re: 2017 Olympia - Mr. Olympia Results
« Reply #50 on: September 17, 2017, 07:20:44 AM »
I did not think he won the prejudging in 2015 and I was there in Vegas. Same thing this year but I always think people should be marked down for being bloated. Rhoden did not deserve his placing either. It's crap how you get gifted based on name and legacy.


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« Reply #51 on: September 17, 2017, 07:37:30 AM »

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Re: 2017 Olympia - Mr. Olympia Results
« Reply #52 on: September 17, 2017, 07:43:20 AM »


clean sweep for Phil again....
That only proves it was fixed.

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Re: 2017 Olympia - Mr. Olympia Results
« Reply #54 on: September 17, 2017, 07:55:27 AM »
You are simply wrong my friend. Arnold should be proud to share the record with the Champ. He isn't called The Gifted for nothing.
Onwards to the eighth title!
What a f*****g disgrace to the sport and insult to Arnold. The message from IFBB is clear: If Phil looks like total shit and still wins with "perfect score" they'll always give it to him no metter how he looks as long as he just turn up and compete. Brave yourself for 10 Olympias to "the Gifted" guys. The scenario is to make him The Greatest.They put Ramy in 2-nd just to create more interest and hype for next year. Never gonna give it to him,he'll be Kai N 2.These are the worst years in IFBB history.

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Re: 2017 Olympia - Mr. Olympia Results
« Reply #55 on: September 17, 2017, 08:07:41 AM »
What a f*****g disgrace to the sport and insult to Arnold. The message from IFBB is clear: If Phil looks like total shit and still wins with "perfect score" they'll always give it to him no metter how he looks as long as he just turn up and compete. Brave yourself for 10 Olympias to "the Gifted" guys. The scenario is to make him The Greatest.They put Ramy in 2-nd just to create more interest and hype for next year. Never gonna give it to him,he'll be Kai N 2.These are the worst years in IFBB history.

This is turning into female bodybuilding 2.0. Next thing you'll know Phil will have 10 wins and nobody will care.

When I was there in 2015 people booed the decision and a large group of people got up and walked out.

What is phil Doing as Mr Olympia by arguing with fans on social media and having his fiancée troll social media platforms to also argue with others. Both are extremely immature and insecure and make poor ambassadors for bodybuilding.

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Re: 2017 Mr.Olympia - Results
« Reply #56 on: September 17, 2017, 08:21:30 AM »
Yep, that and dorians 6 as well

2005 and prior were the best years for pro bbing and amateurs, npc now just hand out pro cards like candy

Flex, Nasser, lee, Kevin, Shawn, Cormier, some others too, were all in the wrong era, come today and all would be MR O



Dorian Yates had the same issues, about which people here are blubbering regarding Phil Heath. Dorian was "bloofy" (see 1994); Dorian had a bloated stomach (1994, 1996, 1997); Dorian had a torn bicep (1994).

Yet, let some here tell it, he's the greatest thing since creatine.

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Re: 2017 Olympia - Mr. Olympia Results
« Reply #57 on: September 17, 2017, 08:39:26 AM »


clean sweep for Phil again....

victor martinez ???

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Re: 2017 Olympia - Mr. Olympia Results
« Reply #58 on: September 17, 2017, 08:55:08 AM »
Dorian Yates had the same issues, about which people here are blubbering regarding Phil Heath. Dorian was "bloofy" (see 1994); Dorian had a bloated stomach (1994, 1996, 1997); Dorian had a torn bicep (1994).

Yet, let some here tell it, he's the greatest thing since creatine.

Compared to competition, Yates had superior structure and was the biggest man on stage - that's what Cheath will never have.

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Re: 2017 Olympia - Mr. Olympia Results
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Re: 2017 Olympia - Mr. Olympia Results
« Reply #60 on: September 17, 2017, 09:29:12 AM »


clean sweep for Phil again....

Phil Heath: unanimous 1st
Dexter Jackson: unanimous 4th
Josh Lenartowicz: unanimous 9th
Cedric McMillan: unanimous 10th???  ...that's interesting.

Look how close it was between Bonac (3rd) and Ramy (2nd)--only 2 points apart in the final tally.
A mere 2 points also separated Rhoden (5th) and Winklaar (6th).

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Re: 2017 Olympia - Mr. Olympia Results
« Reply #61 on: September 17, 2017, 09:37:14 AM »
Phil Heath: unanimous 1st
Dexter Jackson: unanimous 4th
Josh Lenartowicz: unanimous 9th
Cedric McMillan: unanimous 10th???  ...that's interesting.

Look how close it was between Bonac (3rd) and Ramy (2nd)--only 2 points apart in the final tally.
A mere 2 points also separated Rhoden (5th) and Winklaar (6th).

Bonac was in 2nd place after Friday night, but Ramy did better at the finals and he snuck into 2nd place

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A good thing about the Heath, Ramy, Bonac placings
« Reply #62 on: September 17, 2017, 09:42:59 AM »
These 3 guys have very different looks. They have 3 entirely different builds. There is no confusing one for another other at all.

A lot of old time bodybuilding fans often say that Larry, Sergio, Arnold, and Franco had different looks. But "now days, everyone looks the same".

Well that is not the case this year.

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Re: 2017 Mr.Olympia - Results
« Reply #63 on: September 17, 2017, 09:43:30 AM »
Dorian Yates had the same issues, about which people here are blubbering regarding Phil Heath. Dorian was "bloofy" (see 1994); Dorian had a bloated stomach (1994, 1996, 1997); Dorian had a torn bicep (1994).

Yet, let some here tell it, he's the greatest thing since creatine.

Totally agree. Dorian was great in 1992, 1993, and 1995. People everywhere were bitching about his arm, his waist, his lack of detail in his thighs the other years especially 1994 and 1997. Now, the history revisionists act like his reign was without precedent. Dorian retired because he knew that in 1998 he would not have won against emerging competition in 1998. Ronnie Coleman the same. In 2004 and 2005 he was a shell of his former self. He probably should have called it quits after 2005 as the writing was on the wall that Jay was going to take over. Phil better get the gut under control because Bonac, Jackson, and a tight Ramy can beat him.

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Re: A good thing about the Heath, Ramy, Bonac placings
« Reply #64 on: September 17, 2017, 09:45:38 AM »
True, but this was one of the most forgettable olympias in recent memory. Nice to see dexter hanging in the top 5, though.

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Re: A good thing about the Heath, Ramy, Bonac placings
« Reply #65 on: September 17, 2017, 09:59:58 AM »
together with classic physique and mens physique we got every body type represented

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Re: A good thing about the Heath, Ramy, Bonac placings
« Reply #66 on: September 17, 2017, 10:27:38 AM »
Cedric must be heated. Arnold likes his physique, uses it as an example. Wins the Arnold, and then watches Phil match Arnold for Mr. O wins, while he (Cedric) gets tenth place, behind people he is clearly better than, but who have better conditioning.

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Re: 2017 Olympia - Mr. Olympia Results
« Reply #67 on: September 17, 2017, 10:32:23 AM »
He got a DNP
What happened?
Compared to competition, Yates had superior structure and was the biggest man on stage - that's what Cheath will never have.
Phil has a good structure when he is 215-230ish, after that he loses it. Then his weaknesses show,

Also, he does the FLS and FDB poses in an awkward manner.

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Re: 2017 Olympia - Mr. Olympia Results
« Reply #68 on: September 17, 2017, 10:34:35 AM »
What happened?Phil has a good structure when he is 215-230ish, after that he loses it. Then his weaknesses show,

2008 Iron Man was one of his best overall showings IMO.....

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Re: 2017 Olympia - Mr. Olympia Results
« Reply #69 on: September 17, 2017, 10:36:50 AM »
What happened?

I'm assuming he looked like shit. I didn't watch the webcast, fell asleep before it even started.

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Re: A good thing about the Heath, Ramy, Bonac placings
« Reply #70 on: September 17, 2017, 11:55:17 AM »
Cedric must be heated. Arnold likes his physique, uses it as an example. Wins the Arnold, and then watches Phil match Arnold for Mr. O wins, while he (Cedric) gets tenth place, behind people he is clearly better than, but who have better conditioning.

In the prediction thread, I predicted that Cedric was going to place 2nd

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Re: A good thing about the Heath, Ramy, Bonac placings
« Reply #71 on: September 17, 2017, 12:08:28 PM »
These 3 guys have very different looks. They have 3 entirely different builds. There is no confusing one for another other at all.

A lot of old time bodybuilding fans often say that Larry, Sergio, Arnold, and Franco had different looks. But "now days, everyone looks the same".

Well that is not the case this year.

Q

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Re: A good thing about the Heath, Ramy, Bonac placings
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Re: 2017 Olympia - Mr. Olympia Results
« Reply #73 on: September 17, 2017, 01:31:09 PM »
$400K for looking like that?   ???

What a pathetic, fucking joke this contest is.  The judges are not judging, they are playing politics.  Just a clown show now.  Most of the competitors looked like shit.



As I wrote elsewhere, I think it really doesn't matter what anybody looks like in the Olympia.  What matters is who Jim Manion and Steve Weinberger want for Mr Olympia.  If they wanted Johnnie Jackson to be Mr. Olympia they would've fudge the judging scores and come up with a rationale for his win.

But I think what do they like about Heath?

First, he's a defending champion.  Last night both Buendia and Lewis, defending champions, repeated their wins.  It looks like Manion and his crew like to be conservative, they like their previous choices, guys they know, and don't want to take risks with someone new.  Hester and Classic last night were the exception.

Second, they want an American.  Correct me if I'm wrong but in the whole history of the Olympia the only non-American Mr Olympia was Dorian Yates, although I'm not sure if you would qualify Samir Bannout as being American or not.

Third, maybe it has something to do with the nutrition company sponsors.  For example, Heath is with Ultimate Nutrition and I'm not sure who Ramy is with but it was GAT.  Since these companies also sponsor contests, possibly they are using their "muscle" to influence Manion and Weinberger.  Maybe money under the table?

Lastly, and most importantly, I thought they want somebody with some charisma, some public appeal, somebody wholesome.  You could call it marketability.  Or some call it being an 'ambassador' for the sport.  In their dreams they really want another Arnold, somebody who could be attractive to the mainstream public and bring them into bodybuilding.  I think about Cutler beating Coleman.  At that time Cutler sure had a lot more marketability than Coleman.  When you look at last nights top ten, none can quite meet the marketability factor as good as Heath.  McMillan is a possibility, but he's not as wholesome as Heath.  My bet is they had high hopes for McCarver.  He had lots of marketability.

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« Reply #74 on: September 17, 2017, 01:38:40 PM »
As I wrote elsewhere, I think it really doesn't matter what anybody looks like in the Olympia.  What matters is who Jim Manion and Steve Weinberger want for Mr Olympia.  If they wanted Johnnie Jackson to be Mr. Olympia they would've fudge the judging scores and come up with a rationale for his win.

But I think what do they like about Heath?

First, he's a defending champion.  Last night both Buendia and Lewis, defending champions, repeated their wins.  It looks like Manion and his crew like to be conservative, they like their previous choices, guys they know, and don't want to take risks with someone new.  Hester and Classic last night were the exception.

Second, they want an American.  Correct me if I'm wrong but in the whole history of the Olympia the only non-American Mr Olympia was Dorian Yates, although I'm not sure if you would qualify Samir Bannout as being American or not.

Third, maybe it has something to do with the nutrition company sponsors.  For example, Heath is with Ultimate Nutrition and I'm not sure who Ramy is with but it was GAT.  Since these companies also sponsor contests, possibly they are using their "muscle" to influence Manion and Weinberger.  Maybe money under the table?

Lastly, and most importantly, I thought they want somebody with some charisma, some public appeal, somebody wholesome.  You could call it marketability.  Or some call it being an 'ambassador' for the sport.  In their dreams they really want another Arnold, somebody who could be attractive to the mainstream public and bring them into bodybuilding.  I think about Cutler beating Coleman.  At that time Cutler sure had a lot more marketability than Coleman.  When you look at last nights top ten, none can quite meet the marketability factor as good as Heath.  McMillan is a possibility, but he's not as wholesome as Heath.  My bet is they had high hopes for McCarver.  He had lots of marketability.

Show sponsors do have a lot of influence on the results, I personally spoke to a show sponsor (supplement company owner)in the UK who said one of his sponsored athletes placed 2nd when he shouldn't even have been fifth.

Im personally not going to compete with an organisation again because of this influence, Im not dieting and training for 16 weeks to get shit on because Im not sponsored by a certain supplement company.