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2017 Olympia - 20 years since the 1997 robbery, another robbery!
« on: September 18, 2017, 04:22:05 PM »
1997 Olympia- Nasser wins the O, clearly better than a burnt out Palumboism Yates , only to be robbed by the corrupt IFBB

20 years later, history repeats, another Egyptian champ robbed by a burnt out Palumboism Heath

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Re: 2017 Olympia, 20 years since the 97 robbery, another robbery!
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2017, 04:27:02 PM »
Nasser should've had a better back if he wanted the Sandow so bad.

Ramy didn't have enough thigh separation or back detail to win on Saturday.

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Re: 2017 Olympia, 20 years since the 97 robbery, another robbery!
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2017, 04:28:28 PM »
People are quick to forget that in '97 Dorian was still dominant from behind. He was a monster that year... the injuries overshadowed it.

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Re: 2017 Olympia, 20 years since the 97 robbery, another robbery!
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2017, 04:57:16 PM »
People are quick to forget that in '97 Dorian was still dominant from behind. He was a monster that year... the injuries overshadowed it.

DOrian won 1 pose
the BDB
all rest Nasser had him incl RLS!

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Re: 2017 Olympia, 20 years since the 97 robbery, another robbery!
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2017, 05:23:16 PM »
DOrian won 1 pose
the BDB
all rest Nasser had him incl RLS!

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Re: 2017 Olympia, 20 years since the 97 robbery, another robbery!
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2017, 05:38:03 PM »
No way Ramy should have won. He shouldn't have even been runner up. Third.

I don't like Philip but the judges got it right for first.

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Re: 2017 Olympia, 20 years since the 97 robbery, another robbery!
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2017, 05:40:27 PM »
DOrian won 1 pose
the BDB
all rest Nasser had him incl RLS!

Not even close. Fu ck pix, watch the video.

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Re: 2017 Olympia, 20 years since the 97 robbery, another robbery!
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2017, 05:46:21 PM »
1997 Olympia- Nasser wins the O, clearly better than a burnt out Palumboism Yates , only to be robbed by the corrupt IFBB

20 years later, history repeats, another Egyptian champ robbed by a burnt out Palumboism Heath

Excellent post however I will say that both Nasser and Yates were phenomenal. It was certainly close. Now Phil and Ramy not so much. Ramy was the clear winner, Cheath just had corrupt IFBB politics on his side.

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Re: 2017 Olympia, 20 years since the 97 robbery, another robbery!
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2017, 05:52:55 PM »
Does 97 Nasser beat 2017 Heath?

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Re: 2017 Olympia, 20 years since the 97 robbery, another robbery!
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2017, 06:26:24 PM »
Does 97 Nasser beat 2017 Heath?

In theory, yes.  But if the judges wouldn't give it to Ramy, they aren't gonna give it the the beautiful man in glasses either.

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Re: 2017 Olympia, 20 years since the 97 robbery, another robbery!
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2017, 06:26:52 PM »
Excellent post however I will say that both Nasser and Yates were phenomenal. It was certainly close. Now Phil and Ramy not so much. Ramy was the clear winner, Cheath just had corrupt IFBB politics on his side.

yes, Ramy is starting to show Palumbosim also

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Re: 2017 Olympia, 20 years since the 97 robbery, another robbery!
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2017, 06:51:50 PM »
yes, Ramy is starting to show Palumbosim also

Not even close.

Jeeze. Now even the slight distension, which is normal for everybody when relaxed, is Palumboism.

It's become such an overused cliche now. Just like anybody with a bicep peak or huge delts is using synthol. I'm sure if Arnold was competing today he would be accused of oil in his biceps.

Also, Palumbolism is more than just a distended belly. It's an expansion and widening of the thorax, T-Rex arms, atrophied thighs. It is an overall effect on your structure. Yates and Coleman had guts but not Palumbolism. Dorian is back to normal and said his gut went down after he stopped forced feeding himself.

This is Palumbolism.



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Re: 2017 Olympia, 20 years since the 97 robbery, another robbery!
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2017, 06:55:51 PM »
yes, Ramy is starting to show Palumbosim also

I disagree. At least nowhere near the amount Cheath has.

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Re: 2017 Olympia, 20 years since the 97 robbery, another robbery!
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2017, 06:57:01 PM »
Does 97 Nasser beat 2017 Heath?

If judged fairly then yes Nasser wins easily.

If politics as usual are involved then they probably give it to Phil due to prejudice against Arabs.

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Re: 2017 Olympia, 20 years since the 97 robbery, another robbery!
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2017, 07:17:44 PM »
If judged fairly then yes Nasser wins easily.

If politics as usual are involved then they probably give it to Phil due to prejudice against Arabs.

I don't think it's so much a prejudice against Arabs. It would reflect positively on the IFBB's "multiculturalism" if Ramy won. I think they just like Phil and feel he markets the sport better.
Ramy doesn't live in the US and still isn't fluent in English. Having a blue eyed brew with a bright smile and doesn't talk like a gangsta thug is a big selling point.

Still, either way you cut it the O is politically driven. I think the Arnold is a better reflection on the best bber and hope one day they become the show to win as the O continues to lose credibility. The only way right now is to up the cash prize at the Arnold.

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Re: 2017 Olympia, 20 years since the 97 robbery, another robbery!
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2017, 07:21:44 PM »
1997 Olympia- Nasser wins the O, clearly better than a burnt out Palumboism Yates , only to be robbed by the corrupt IFBB

20 years later, history repeats, another Egyptian champ robbed by a burnt out Palumboism Heath

Don't forget that it's been ten years since Victor was robbed.



And then there was the biggest travesty of all in 81 when they gave it to the atrophied bow legged and lactating nipple to Arnold's Sardinian side kick.



How much longer will the public stand for this b.s.?

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Re: 2017 Olympia, 20 years since the 97 robbery, another robbery!
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2017, 07:27:28 PM »
I don't think it's so much a prejudice against Arabs. It would reflect positively on the IFBB's "multiculturalism" if Ramy won. I think they just like Phil and feel he markets the sport better.
Ramy doesn't live in the US and still isn't fluent in English. Having a blue eyed brew with a bright smile and doesn't talk like a gangsta thug is a big selling point.

Still, either way you cut it the O is politically driven. I think the Arnold is a better reflection on the best bber and hope one day they become the show to win as the O continues to lose credibility. The only way right now is to up the cash prize at the Arnold.

Still bullshit. The best body should win, whether he is Egyptian, fucks grapefruits, whatever.

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Re: 2017 Olympia, 20 years since the 97 robbery, another robbery!
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2017, 07:39:09 PM »
Still bullshit. The best body should win, whether he is Egyptian, fucks grapefruits, whatever.

Of course. But that's not going to happen at the O. The only thing left is for the public to reject their credibility. Similar to what is happening to the Emmys and ESPN. So biased and politically driven that
people don't pay attention anymore.

Unfortunately, it's too late for Kai but not for Ramy. Maybe he should forget the O and just concentrate on the Arnold and hopefully others will follow. Just like Kai, what the hell can he possibly do to win. He improves while Heath gets worse. But Phil will keep winning as long as he wants to compete.

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Re: 2017 Olympia, 20 years since the 97 robbery, another robbery!
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2017, 07:44:34 PM »
Padilla's physique in the above photo, destroys anyone from the classic bb stage last saturday

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Re: 2017 Olympia, 20 years since the 97 robbery, another robbery!
« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2017, 07:45:21 PM »
Don't forget that it's been ten years since Victor was robbed.




That's Jay in 2009. 2007 was way, way worse:


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Re: 2017 Olympia, 20 years since the 97 robbery, another robbery!
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2017, 07:49:00 PM »
Don't forget that it's been ten years since Victor was robbed.



And then there was the biggest travesty of all in 81 when they gave it to the atrophied bow legged and lactating nipple to Arnold's Sardinian side kick.



How much longer will the public stand for this b.s.?

good point, another terrible robbery

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Re: 2017 Olympia, 20 years since the 97 robbery, another robbery!
« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2017, 07:52:55 PM »
That's Jay in 2009. 2007 was way, way worse:



I'll defer to your expertise. You're one of the few that still keeps this board the way it should be. I just googled Jay vs Victor 2007 Mr. Olympia and got that comparison.

Can you post a side by side of Jay and Victor in 2007? There it's clear who the better bber was that day.

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Re: 2017 Olympia, 20 years since the 97 robbery, another robbery!
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2017, 07:55:57 PM »
DOrian won 1 pose
the BDB
all rest Nasser had him incl RLS!

Lol no, and the side tricep wasn't even close.  Pure destruction from Yates.

Either way, it's not judged that way.
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Re: 2017 Olympia, 20 years since the 97 robbery, another robbery!
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2017, 07:56:14 PM »
Padilla's physique in the above photo, destroys anyone from the classic bb stage last saturday

Not only was his symmetry, proportion and conditioning ideal; but he had such a clean, polished look to him that you never see nowadays. Everything perfect (except for the midget part).

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Re: 2017 Olympia, 20 years since the 97 robbery, another robbery!
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2017, 07:56:19 PM »
I'll defer to your expertise. You're one of the few that still keeps this board the way it should be. I just googled Jay vs Victor 2007 Mr. Olympia and got that comparison.

Can you post a side by side of Jay and Victor in 2007? There it's clear who the better bber was that day.

Thanks man. Here are some that I found. Dex beating them both in some shots IMO.