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Author Topic: Justified Shooting in Huntington Beach, California? Yes or No?  (Read 4216 times)
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« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2017, 09:55:07 AM »

What happened before this? Did the guy have a gun, or was he just fighting with the officer. Yes, it does matter.

If the guy had no gun, and was just fighting or drunk or on drugs - one shot would have more than been suffice to bring him down.

But 7 shots - this officer will be prosecuted as no jury will see this as 'justified'



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http://ktla.com/2017/09/25/new-graphic-video-shows-man-throwing-punch-at-officer-before-fatal-huntington-beach-shooting/


https://www.facebook.com/groups/HBcommunityforum/permalink/1977771685769674/
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« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2017, 10:08:31 AM »

Guy took something from cop's belt while they were down. Another video shows it more clearly. Comes up with it in his right hand. Pretty sure this is what made cop draw his gun.

Dude went out like Scarface, though, still standing after 6-7 shots. Unreal. First time I've seen a cop order someone to the ground after he unloads.
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« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2017, 10:18:58 AM »

if he got the cops taser then yeah he had to. if it was something else then one or two rounds were enough.
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« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2017, 10:23:02 AM »

Best friend is a Sergeant in another City in So. Cal.

"OK I just looked it up... They call those state of mind shootings.... Cop was in a fight with suspect that was crazy or on drugs (or both).  The suspect tried to get the cops gun, (ended up with something off the cops belt, looked like a flashlight to me. could have been a knife or baton). So its a fight for his life...cop didnít know what the guy had in his hand, (or that it came off his own belt)  just saw a dark object and knows the suspect is trying to kill him (based on the attempted gun take-away)... Taser didnít work.  The suspect gets up and starts to reengage the cop a second time (move towards him)... The cop, fearing for his life, fires....The cop doesnít have to re-engage giving the suspect a second chance to get his gun and kill him. He doesnít have to wait to find out what the suspect has in his hand... He canít run away or leave because that gives a dangerous suspect the opertunity to assault or kill a civilian ...   "
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« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2017, 10:36:47 AM »

Guy took something from cop's belt while they were down. Another video shows it more clearly. Comes up with it in his right hand. Pretty sure this is what made cop draw his gun.

Dude went out like Scarface, though, still standing after 6-7 shots. Unreal. First time I've seen a cop order someone to the ground after he unloads.

really doesnt matter that it came to that point.. someone attacks you and you own a firearm(CHL), what would you do? now think about this.... nobody i know would attack a police officer... so if someone is crazy enough to attack a police officer....that means they(the civilian) has every intention to kill or hurt that officer.... what do you think is going on in the cops head?
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« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2017, 11:27:33 AM »

Happened right across the street from the school where I coach. We have been talking about this on the HB community boards since yesterday. This was an absolute justified shooting. A new video just was just posted to those boards showing the suspect attacking the cop with the cop fighting back before the suspect grabbed his belt.

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« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2017, 11:38:47 AM »

really doesnt matter that it came to that point.. someone attacks you and you own a firearm(CHL), what would you do? now think about this.... nobody i know would attack a police officer... so if someone is crazy enough to attack a police officer....that means they(the civilian) has every intention to kill or hurt that officer.... what do you think is going on in the cops head?

Ahh, new policy then. Appreciate the update, Sheriff Joe.
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« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2017, 12:14:15 PM »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfi3Ndh3n-g" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfi3Ndh3n-g</a>


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9igSoJHEdUo" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9igSoJHEdUo</a>
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« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2017, 12:38:39 PM »

Ahh, new policy then. Appreciate the update, Sheriff Joe.

no problem... we shall teach police officers just to say "Stop it!!"" "Please Stop"...."Oh cmon, please"
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« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2017, 12:50:11 PM »

Looking at the HB Community Forums and HB Police FB forums the asshole activists (Antifa) are chiming in and of course lying about what happened. Fuck heads
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« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2017, 02:09:11 PM »

Context:


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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbI-DwK6dPM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbI-DwK6dPM</a>


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« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2017, 02:20:56 PM »

Context:


https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=999_1506200618

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbI-DwK6dPM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbI-DwK6dPM</a>




Facebook have the original poster of this video on our HB Community page a 7 day ban for graphic content. I guess it didn't fit FB's agenda because the video Clearly showed the cop had no choice.
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« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2017, 02:29:38 PM »

"May"?

I've no sympathy when someone gets aggressive with cops in the US, I don't blame for being comparatively trigger happy to other western nation's police because of the gun problem here, but he didn't need to shoot the poor bastard 7 times.

Cop only had six in the clip, one in the hole??? If I am the cop, I am emptying the clip and going home to my family.

Real brave of you to tell the cop what he should and shouldn't do from the comfort of your keyboard.
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« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2017, 02:39:08 PM »

I looked up his facebook profile.

He served in the navy. I think he had a drug problem.
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« Reply #39 on: September 24, 2017, 02:51:56 PM »

"When you engage in a fight against any person who advertises the fact that they wield a firearm, in particular a police officer, it can only be assumed by the person equipped with the gun defending themselves, that their opponent wouldn't start a fight unless they had a reasonable chance at success, which means being killed by the person attacking you. Put simply, if you know your opponent is aware you have a firearm, and they are willing to attack you anyways, you must assume it is now a fight to save your life. Had that kid been armed, he could have drawn a gun and shot that officer as soon as he was given space, and it only takes a second, maybe two. He could have dipped a hand in his hoodie and shot through his pocket. Life isn't a game. Don't fight people you shouldn't, and you won't die. Defend yourself against people who shouldn't be fighting, as this officer did, and you won't die. It's not fair to ask any officer to put their life on the line for the safety of a person who is attacking them. That isn't part of the job description"

https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/71uoph/video_shows_huntington_beach_police_officer/
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« Reply #40 on: September 24, 2017, 03:06:44 PM »

Context:


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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbI-DwK6dPM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbI-DwK6dPM</a>




Thanks for showing the whole picture.

Justified!
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« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2017, 03:23:33 PM »


You swing at an officer and physically attack him then you earned that bullet sandwich hold the mayo
If he was black you might have had a different opinion.

But I agree this shooting was justified.
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« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2017, 04:09:11 PM »

Would it not be sufficient with a shot in the leg?

Videoclip at the bottom.


http://thefreethoughtproject.com/video-cop-shoots-man-convenience-store/

If you are going to shoot someone you gotta aim for the center of mass.  Intentionally shooting people in the leg only happens in the movies.

Also, shooting someone in the leg wouldn't help even if you were able to be that precise with your aim because of the femoral artery.  Get shot there and it's time to die.
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« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2017, 04:36:39 PM »

If he was black you might have had a different opinion.

But I agree this shooting was justified.


Nope.  A police officer has the right to come home safe to his family.  This has nothing to do with race.  He attacked a police officer and tried to get his gun....period.



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« Reply #44 on: September 24, 2017, 04:50:22 PM »


Nope.  A police officer has the right to come home safe to his family.  This has nothing to do with race.  He attacked a police officer and tried to get his gun....period.



I am glad however that you can no longer post to Stormfront.... Grin
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« Reply #45 on: September 24, 2017, 08:39:49 PM »


Nope.  A police officer has the right to come home safe to his family.  This has nothing to do with race.  He attacked a police officer and tried to get his gun....period.



I am glad however that you can no longer post to Stormfront.... Grin

Great topic for another video Vince. In fact I think it would do quite well based on your position.

Why just post on bodybuilding related topics.
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« Reply #46 on: September 26, 2017, 07:43:46 AM »

Looking at the HB Community Forums and HB Police FB forums the asshole activists (Antifa) are chiming in and of course lying about what happened. Fuck heads


I can't believe the morons posting on the HB forums, Coach. Especially the idiots saying, "Why didn't he shoot him in the knee?".   He was mentally ill. Dishonorable discharge, mental illness, drug addict, practicing satanism, posting anti police messages, etc. On his page, you could see the downfall in his mind the last 5 years. Someone has already deleted many messages from his page.   This human had no hope and was extremely damaged. It was his time to go and I'm grateful the officer wasn't injured and no other civilians or officers were injured. This could've been very ugly. I watched the police response racing down there.
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« Reply #47 on: September 26, 2017, 08:03:09 AM »

Here's just one of Dillan's Facebook posts--note the complete lack of punctuation, commas, periods, colons, or semicolons, to say nothing of paragraphs.  But he did make judicious use of parentheses, for some reason.

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JE JA ( JE and JAA the two destroyer male fairy) ( JA GOD)has fallen and will not return i have ended him and may have seen me there is no ancients of ancients and my twin angel sits upon his throne there are no gods left here I am the mortal dead fairy and I will rise again as jehuty God(JA) first real son of Jehovah Thoath little brother of jehoeave sorrow Lucian (brandon) (wrong name of first body) big sister is the spirit hova Dillan FEC the only seraphin the 7 hero are dead and soon to be made never for I am Aanima ff10 and I am being defiled soon this will be over I have been to all of gods infinite infinites and more of the allies I have quarantined as many as needed and made it to earth. You will be able to rest soon JE
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« Reply #48 on: September 26, 2017, 08:04:12 AM »

Here's just one of Dillan's Facebook posts--note the complete lack of punctuation, commas, periods, colons, or semicolons, to say nothing of paragraphs.  But he did make judicious use of parentheses, for some reason.

Dillan Tabares
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JE JA ( JE and JAA the two destroyer male fairy) ( JA GOD)has fallen and will not return i have ended him and may have seen me there is no ancients of ancients and my twin angel sits upon his throne there are no gods left here I am the mortal dead fairy and I will rise again as jehuty God(JA) first real son of Jehovah Thoath little brother of jehoeave sorrow Lucian (brandon) (wrong name of first body) big sister is the spirit hova Dillan FEC the only seraphin the 7 hero are dead and soon to be made never for I am Aanima ff10 and I am being defiled soon this will be over I have been to all of gods infinite infinites and more of the allies I have quarantined as many as needed and made it to earth. You will be able to rest soon JE

But did he believe in a Flat Earth?
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« Reply #49 on: September 26, 2017, 08:12:03 AM »

He was paroled from state prison, one week before the shooting. Multiple battery charges, served 18 months.
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