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NFL - Alejandro Villanueva vs. Colin Kapernick - what a difference
« on: September 25, 2017, 10:45:09 AM »
Steelers' Alejandro Villanueva has highest-selling gear in past 24 hours


It's stories like this that tells you that every race baiter taking a knee is on the wrong side of the issue......

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20815108/alejandro-villanueva-pittsburgh-steelers-top-selling-gear-standing-national-anthem

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Re: Steelers' Alejandro Villanueva has highest-selling gear in past 24 hours
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2017, 11:03:59 AM »
Same people buying it probably want a wall to keep mexicans out but don't mind wearing a hispanic name on their back.

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Re: Steelers' Alejandro Villanueva has highest-selling gear in past 24 hours
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2017, 11:12:39 AM »
It's stories like this that tells you that every race baiter taking a knee is on the wrong side of the issue......

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20815108/alejandro-villanueva-pittsburgh-steelers-top-selling-gear-standing-national-anthem
All this does is tell you that a relatively niche player that hit national news had a spike in jersey sales. let's see in a year if he's still on top

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Re: Steelers' Alejandro Villanueva has highest-selling gear in past 24 hours
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2017, 11:43:17 AM »
All this does is tell you that a relatively niche player that hit national news had a spike in jersey sales. let's see in a year if he's still on top

Doesn't matter if he gets a career injury on Sunday. He'll be remembered for the stand he took rather than his play.

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Re: Steelers' Alejandro Villanueva has highest-selling gear in past 24 hours
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2017, 01:26:34 PM »
Same people buying it probably want a wall to keep mexicans out but don't mind wearing a hispanic name on their back.



Since he's a citizen of the USA your point is what exactly?

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Re: Steelers' Alejandro Villanueva has highest-selling gear in past 24 hours
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2017, 03:17:12 PM »
Doesn't matter if he gets a career injury on Sunday. He'll be remembered for the stand he took rather than his play.

Damn straight.  Makes me proud that I'm a fellow Vet.

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Re: Steelers' Alejandro Villanueva has highest-selling gear in past 24 hours
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2017, 03:28:59 PM »
It's stories like this that tells you that every race baiter taking a knee is on the wrong side of the issue......

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20815108/alejandro-villanueva-pittsburgh-steelers-top-selling-gear-standing-national-anthem


So what about him...so what about people kneeling.  Protesting police brutality and racism is so bad, Coach????
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2017, 03:34:00 PM »
So what about him...so what about people kneeling.  Protesting police brutality and racism is so bad, Coach????

Not at all - you can protest all you want - ON YOUR OWN TIME.  I am all for freedom of speech, kneeling but not when you are part of a team, a business that relys on fans and merchandising for your product, not a distraction by some players who are bringing politics and their own ideas into the workplace. Like it or not, these players are 'employees' of the 'business' and they are NOT thinking about the business, but their own opinions. And disrespecting the flag that so many fans hold dear.

Now, anyone from anywhere can have their own free speech, and kneel all they want, BUT ON THEIR OWN TIME. Racism and Police Brutality is very bad, and needs to be talked about and worked on.  Just like I am not watching nor buying any NFL products from these business owners until they give me a product that I want - sports oriented, but politics oriented.


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Re: Steelers' Alejandro Villanueva has highest-selling gear in past 24 hours
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2017, 03:51:32 PM »
Not at all - you can protest all you want - ON YOUR OWN TIME.  I am all for freedom of speech, kneeling but not when you are part of a team, a business that relys on fans and merchandising for your product, not a distraction by some players who are bringing politics and their own ideas into the workplace. Like it or not, these players are 'employees' of the 'business' and they are NOT thinking about the business, but their own opinions. And disrespecting the flag that so many fans hold dear.

Now, anyone from anywhere can have their own free speech, and kneel all they want, BUT ON THEIR OWN TIME. Racism and Police Brutality is very bad, and needs to be talked about and worked on.  Just like I am not watching nor buying any NFL products from these business owners until they give me a product that I want - sports oriented, but politics oriented.



Almost all of the NFL owners, along with the commissioner, have said they have no problem with the players kneeling. Therefore, they aren't breaking any rules or doing anything their owners don't want them to.

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Re: Steelers' Alejandro Villanueva has highest-selling gear in past 24 hours
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2017, 03:57:24 PM »
Not at all - you can protest all you want - ON YOUR OWN TIME.  I am all for freedom of speech, kneeling but not when you are part of a team, a business that relys on fans and merchandising for your product, not a distraction by some players who are bringing politics and their own ideas into the workplace. Like it or not, these players are 'employees' of the 'business' and they are NOT thinking about the business, but their own opinions. And disrespecting the flag that so many fans hold dear.

Now, anyone from anywhere can have their own free speech, and kneel all they want, BUT ON THEIR OWN TIME. Racism and Police Brutality is very bad, and needs to be talked about and worked on.  Just like I am not watching nor buying any NFL products from these business owners until they give me a product that I want - sports oriented, but politics oriented.




That's for the team owners to decide...not the public.  They are still running their heads into each other.  If they want to fire them that's their business but it's not going to happen because the vast majority of players are black.  NFL stands for the Ni#$% Football League and the masters can't make money without field ni@#$@
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Re: Steelers' Alejandro Villanueva has highest-selling gear in past 24 hours
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2017, 04:00:15 PM »

So what about him...so what about people kneeling.  Protesting police brutality and racism is so bad, Coach????

Police brutality?everyone of the blacks killed by cops had it coming,just cause your black doesn't mean you have to stick up for all blacks,I sure as shit don't stick up for whites in the wrong.If you don't listen to police,come at them,have a gun then you get shot.and racism?seriously,blacks are so racist and no one thinks that's bad.stop protesting(being violent,looting etc...) stop robbing and killing people and do the right thing and it will all work out.if you don't like the country then GET THE FUCK OUT,people die for these piece of shits freedom and they kneel,are you fucking kidding me?they make millions to play a child's game and have it easy so stand the fuck up.Binch of fucking criminals.

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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2017, 04:02:08 PM »
just another diversion created by trump to take the focus off the main issues like healthcare. the north korea crisis,failure to build his great wall.his ever declining mental health. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D but you got to give him credit this is the greatest show on earth.his catch phrases are timeless, lying ted, crooked hilary clinton. hilary rotten clinton. low energy jeb bush. little marco, little rocket man. Pocahontas  the list goes on.
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Re: Steelers' Alejandro Villanueva has highest-selling gear in past 24 hours
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2017, 04:09:53 PM »
Police brutality?everyone of the blacks killed by cops had it coming,just cause your black doesn't mean you have to stick up for all blacks,I sure as shit don't stick up for whites in the wrong.If you don't listen to police,come at them,have a gun then you get shot.and racism?seriously,blacks are so racist and no one thinks that's bad.stop protesting(being violent,looting etc...) stop robbing and killing people and do the right thing and it will all work out.if you don't like the country then GET THE FUCK OUT,people die for these piece of shits freedom and they kneel,are you fucking kidding me?they make millions to play a child's game and have it easy so stand the fuck up.Binch of fucking criminals.

This is what protesting police brutality got them in Chicago:



Chicago Police Street Stops Decrease Dramatically Amid Sinking Morale

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160113/loop/chicago-police-street-stops-decrease-dramatically-amid-sinking-morale.amp


Violent weekend leaves 11 dead as city marks 500 homicides - Chicago Tribune

https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-shootings-violence-homicides-20170918-story,amp.html


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Re: Steelers' Alejandro Villanueva has highest-selling gear in past 24 hours
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2017, 04:50:08 PM »

So what about him...so what about people kneeling.  Protesting police brutality and racism is so bad, Coach????

well the problem is calling it "police brutality" and "racisim" is rather subjective these days. a lot of people feel it's the police duty to confront robbers and dope dealers and convicts carrying firearms. and recognize the fact that black communities that are plagued with crime means a higher rate of interacting with the police. while demagogues and love to ignore specific individual facts and simply boil it down to racism.

the fact is the constitution which spells out our Bill of rights that allow free speech was enacted by the same forefathers that named the star spangled banner our national anthem. so protesting one in the name of the other is non-sensical. there Re better ways to combat racism and more legitimate battles to fight.

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Re: Steelers' Alejandro Villanueva has highest-selling gear in past 24 hours
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2017, 05:04:24 PM »
Doesn't matter if he gets a career injury on Sunday. He'll be remembered for the stand he took rather than his play.

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Re: Steelers' Alejandro Villanueva has highest-selling gear in past 24 hours
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2017, 05:21:52 PM »
This is what protesting police brutality got them in Chicago:



Chicago Police Street Stops Decrease Dramatically Amid Sinking Morale

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160113/loop/chicago-police-street-stops-decrease-dramatically-amid-sinking-morale.amp


Violent weekend leaves 11 dead as city marks 500 homicides - Chicago Tribune

https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-shootings-violence-homicides-20170918-story,amp.html



Hopefully they stop policing all together and let the homicides quadruple monthly then maybe alll these shitbags will kill themselves off.

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Re: Steelers' Alejandro Villanueva has highest-selling gear in past 24 hours
« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2017, 05:36:29 PM »
Hopefully they stop policing all together and let the homicides quadruple monthly then maybe alll these shitbags will kill themselves off.

One can only hope!
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Colin kapernick expresses himself.....
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2017, 06:04:13 PM »
And he's a traitor. But Alejandro Villanueva does it and he's a hero  ???

Can't have it both ways simpletons

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Re: Colin kapernick expresses himself.....
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2017, 06:08:23 PM »
Muslims express themselves and they are terrorists.

Melvin Goodrum expresses himself on youtube and he's an entrepeneur.


There is a difference airosol, you simpleton.
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Re: Colin kapernick expresses himself.....
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2017, 06:11:00 PM »
Muslims express themselves and they are terrorists.

Melvin Goodrum expresses himself on youtube and he's an entrepeneur.


There is a difference airosol, you simpleton.
Yeah very similar  ::)

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Re: Colin kapernick expresses himself.....
« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2017, 06:26:09 PM »
Yeah very similar  ::)

You don't see the point eh?

The point is the message they're conveying.

What is the message that Nicolin Kapernicus is conveying?

What is the message that Alejandro Villanueva is conveying?

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Re: Colin kapernick expresses himself.....
« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2017, 06:30:28 PM »
And he's a traitor. But Alejandro Villanueva does it and he's a hero  ???

Can't have it both ways simpletons

Are you really this dumb or just trolling?

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Re: Colin kapernick expresses himself.....
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2017, 06:49:01 PM »
And he's a traitor. But Alejandro Villanueva does it and he's a hero  ???

Can't have it both ways simpletons

Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't a traitor be more along the lines of someone who swears an allegiance/fight for another country?
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Re: Colin kapernick expresses himself.....
« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2017, 06:56:53 PM »
And he's a traitor. But Alejandro Villanueva does it and he's a hero  ???

Can't have it both ways simpletons



This is America and Alejandro stands and has respect for this country the other asshole does not.Pretty simple to understand.


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Re: Colin kapernick expresses himself.....
« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2017, 07:02:19 PM »
And he's a traitor. But Alejandro Villanueva does it and he's a hero  ???

Can't have it both ways simpletons

Wh--what.  This statement is melting my brain, it's wrong on so many levels.