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« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2017, 06:48:12 PM »

Actually, you voted to f youself dumb dumb. Cry

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/02/slower-premium-growth-under-obama/

Republicans say the average family health insurance premium has increased by $4,154 under President Obama. That’s right — and it’s a much slower rate of growth than under President George W. Bush. In fact, employer-sponsored premiums have been growing at moderate rates for the past few years.

"Factcheck"? K..whatever Roll Eyes


https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2016/07/28/overwhelming-evidence-that-obamacare-caused-premiums-to-increase-substantially/#35795a7915be


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« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2017, 06:52:49 PM »

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« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2017, 07:05:24 PM »

Actually, you voted to f youself dumb dumb. Cry

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/02/slower-premium-growth-under-obama/

Republicans say the average family health insurance premium has increased by $4,154 under President Obama. That’s right — and it’s a much slower rate of growth than under President George W. Bush. In fact, employer-sponsored premiums have been growing at moderate rates for the past few years.

Shitfaggetbama promised a decrease of 2500 a year
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« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2017, 04:53:51 PM »

Writer is from Mercatus Center. Some critics have noted the center's association with the Koch brothers and its founder Richard Fink, headed the Koch Industries’ lobbying in Washington as of 2010.

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« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2017, 12:35:47 PM »

Trump personally told health chief to deny Iowa's urgent Obamacare waiver: Report
CNBC ^ | October 6, 2017 | Dan Mangan, Christina Wilkie
Posted on 10/6/2017, 3:26:08 PM by E. Pluribus Unum

President Trump personally called the official who oversees Obamacare to tell her to reject Iowa's bid for a waiver from Obamacare rules, according to The Washington Post.

Oklahoma's health chief has criticized the Trump administration for failing to act on a similar waiver request by that state.

Iowa's waiver request is still pending with the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.

President Donald Trump personally told a top federal health official to reject Iowa's pending request to try to stabilize its individual insurance market with a waiver from Obamacare rules, according to a new report.

And a leading Obamacare expert now says that Trump's reported call seems to be part of a broader effort to actually drive up prices of Obamacare health plans so as to "undermine" the Affordable Care Act.

The new Washington Post article said that Trump in late August called Seema Verma, the administrator for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, after seeing a Wall Street Journal story detailing Iowa's so-called 1332 waiver request.

That waiver request was being pushed by Iowa's Republican governor, Kim Reynolds, who in an Aug. 21 letter to Verma's then boss, Dr. Tom Price, said, "We face an immediate collapsing [individual insurance] market that could leave thousands without health insurance and the rest with 56 [percent] or higher premium rate increases."

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« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2017, 05:18:41 AM »

Obama Lied. My FOURTH Health Plan Died.
Townhall.com ^ | October 11, 2017 | Michelle Malkin
Posted on 10/11/2017, 7:48:23 AM by Kaslin



Cue the funeral bagpipes. My fourth health insurance plan is dead.

Two weeks ago, my husband and I received yet another cancellation notice for our private, individual health insurance coverage. It's our fourth Obamacare-induced obituary in four years. Our first death notice, from Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield, arrived in the fall of 2013. The insurer informed us that because of "changes from health care reform (also called the Affordable Care Act or ACA)," our plan no longer met the federal government's requirements.

Never mind our needs and desires as consumers who were quite satisfied with a high-deductible PPO that included a wide network of doctors for ourselves and our two children.

Our second death knell, from Rocky Mountain Health Plans, tolled in August 2015. That notice signaled the end of a plan we didn't want in the first place that didn't cover our kids' dental care and wasn't accepted at our local urgent care clinic. The insurer pulled out of the individual market in all but one county in Colorado, following the complete withdrawal from that sector by Humana and UnitedHealthcare.

Our third "notice of plan discontinuation," again from Anthem, informed us that the insurer would "no longer offer your current health plan in the State of Colorado" in August 2016. With fewer and fewer choices as know-it-all Obamacare bureaucrats decimated the individual market here and across the country, we enrolled in a high-deductible Bronze HSA EPO (Health Savings Account Exclusive Provider Organization) offered by Minneapolis-based startup, Bright Health.

Now, here we are barely a year later: Deja screwed times four. Our current plan will be discontinued on Jan. 1, 2018.

"But don't worry," Bright Health's eulogy writer chirped, "we have similar plans to address your needs."

Riiiiight. Where have I heard those pie-in-the-sky promises before? Oh, yeah. Straight out of the socialized medicine Trojan horse's mouth. "If you like your doctor," President Obama promised, "you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan. Period. No one will take it away. No matter what."

Is pathological lying covered under the Affordable Care Act?

Speaking of Affordable Care Act whoppers, so much for "affordable." Our current deductible is $6,550 per person; $13,100 for our family of four. Assuming we can find a new plan at the bottom of the individual market barrel, our current monthly premium, $944.86, will rise to more than $1,300 a month.

"What's taking place is a market correction; the free market is at work," says Colorado's state insurance commissioner, Marguerite Salazar. "(T)his could be an indication that there were too many options for the market to support."

This presumptuous central planner called federal intervention to eliminate "too many" options for consumers the free market at work. Yes, friends, the Rocky Mountain High is real.

This isn't a "market correction." It's a government catastrophe. Premiums for individual health plans in Virginia are set to skyrocket nearly 60 percent in 2018. In New Hampshire, those rates will rise 52 percent. In South Carolina, individual market consumers will face an average 31.3 percent hike. In Tennessee, they'll see rates jump between 20-40 percent.

Private, flexible PPOs for self-sufficient, self-employed people are vanishing by design. The social-engineered future -- healthy, full-paying consumers being herded into government-run Obamacare exchanges and severely regulated regional HMOs -- is a bipartisan big government health bureaucracy's dream come true.

These choice-wreckers had the arrogant audacity to denigrate our pre-Obamacare plans as "substandard" (Obama), "crappy" (MSNBC big mouth Ed Schultz) and "junk policies" (Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa). When I first called attention to the cancellation notice tsunami in 2013, liberal Mother Jones magazine sneered that the phenomenon was "phony." And they're still denying the Obamacare death spiral. Liberal Vox Media recently called the crisis "a lie."

I don't have enough four-letter words for these propagandists. There are an estimated 450,000 consumers like us in Colorado and 17 million of us nationwide -- small-business owners, independent contractors and others who don't get their plans through group coverage, big companies or government employers. The costs, headaches and disruption in our lives caused by Obamacare's meddling meddlers are real and massive.

But we're puzzles to corporate media journalists who've never had to meet a payroll and don't even know what is the individual market.

We're invisible to late-night TV clowns who get their Obamacare-at-all-costs talking points from Chuck Schumer.

We're pariahs to social justice health care activists and Democrats who want us to just shut up and subsidize everyone else's insurance.

And we're expendables to establishment Republicans who hoovered up campaign donations on the empty promise to repeal Obamacare -- and now consider amnesty for immigrants here illegally and gun control higher legislative priorities than keeping their damned word.

We're the canaries in the Obamacare coal mine. Ignore us at your peril, America. You're next.
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« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2017, 02:04:13 PM »

My 2018 insurance premiums are lower than they are this year, (I'm not on Obamacare).
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« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2017, 03:37:44 PM »

My 2018 insurance premiums are lower than they are this year, (I'm not on Obamacare).
Maybe that's a hint? Cheesy
I'm coming up for renewal soon, I'll be sure to curse those that love that osamacare.
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« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2017, 05:21:28 PM »

I don't understand why everyone here seems to think they are entitled to health insurance. It's just good old capitalism at work. Buy insurance, don't buy insurance and pay your own bills, or don't access healthcare.
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« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2017, 06:47:27 PM »

I don't understand why everyone here seems to think they are entitled to health insurance. It's just good old capitalism at work. Buy insurance, don't buy insurance and pay your own bills, or don't access healthcare.
It wasn't that way until obama fined everyone that couldn't afford it/didn't want it.
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« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2017, 06:21:31 AM »

It wasn't that way until obama fined everyone that couldn't afford it/didn't want it.

Obama care is another government run ponzi scheme
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« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2017, 06:30:53 AM »

Obama care is another government run ponzi scheme

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« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2017, 09:36:46 AM »

Trump signs order to weaken Obamacare, boost bare-bones insurance
Reuters ^ | October 12, 2017 | by Yasmeen Abutaleb, Jeff Mason
Posted on 10/12/2017, 12:34:27 PM by Oldeconomybuyer

President Donald Trump signed an executive order on Thursday to weaken the Obamacare law and make it easier for Americans to buy bare-bones health insurance plans, but the action faces possible legal challenges.

Stymied in Congress by the failure of Senate Republicans to pass legislation to dismantle Democratic former President Barack Obama’s signature domestic policy achievement, Trump’s order marks his administration’s latest effort to undermine the law without action by lawmakers.

Trump’s order gives people more access to plans that do not cover essential health benefits such as maternity and newborn care, prescription drugs, and mental health and addiction treatment. Obamacare requires most small business and individual health plans to cover those benefits.

Trump wants to make it easier for small businesses to band together as associations across state lines to buy cheaper, less regulated health plans with fewer benefits.

The order also seeks to change an Obama-era limit on the time span people can use short-term health insurance plans, which are cheaper but cover few medical benefits. Those plans are currently limited to three months.

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« Reply #38 on: October 12, 2017, 09:38:10 AM »

Trump clears way for ObamaCare 'alternatives' in new executive order, goes around stalled Congress
Fox News. com ^ | October 11, 2017
Posted on 10/12/2017, 12:08:15 PM by Kaslin

The White House announced Thursday that President Trump is taking executive action on health care as Congress stalls on efforts to overhaul ObamaCare, calling for a plan that could let employers band together and offer coverage across state lines.

An executive order Trump plans to sign Thursday morning aims to offer “alternatives” to ObamaCare plans and increase competition to bring down costs.

“The time has come to give Americans the freedom to purchase health insurance across state lines, which will create a truly competitive national marketplace that will bring costs way down and provide far better care,” Trump said in a statement.TRUMP'S HEALTH CARE EXECUTIVE ORDER: WHAT TO KNOW

According to officials, Trump will direct the secretary of labor to consider expanding access to Association Health Plans, which could allow employers to form groups across state lines offering coverage. According to the White House, these plans could offer lower rates.

Those "association health plans" could be shielded from some state and federal insurance requirements. But responding to concerns, the White House said participating employers could not exclude any workers from the plan, or charge more to those in poor health.

The order also calls on other federal agencies to consider expanding coverage in low-cost, short-term insurance plans not subject to ObamaCare rules.

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« Reply #39 on: October 12, 2017, 01:13:29 PM »

I don't understand why everyone here seems to think they are entitled to health insurance. It's just good old capitalism at work. Buy insurance, don't buy insurance and pay your own bills, or don't access healthcare.

Paying one's own medical expenses sounds like a plan, except few people can afford to do this, particularly when there are hospital bills. Maybe this explains why emergency rooms are filled with folks whose only emergency is that they couldn't afford to pay a doctor to see them, if they even have one. By law, ER's cannot refuse people even when they have no way to pay for the services.

Public and private hospitals alike are prohibited by law from denying a patient care in an emergency. The Emergency Medical and Treatment Labor Act (EMTLA) passed by Congress in 1986 explicitly forbids the denial of care to indigent or uninsured patients based on a lack of ability to pay.

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« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2017, 03:48:48 PM »

Trump clears way for ObamaCare 'alternatives' in new executive order, goes around stalled Congress
Fox News. com ^ | October 11, 2017
Posted on 10/12/2017, 12:08:15 PM by Kaslin

The White House announced Thursday that President Trump is taking executive action on health care as Congress stalls on efforts to overhaul ObamaCare, calling for a plan that could let employers band together and offer coverage across state lines.

An executive order Trump plans to sign Thursday morning aims to offer “alternatives” to ObamaCare plans and increase competition to bring down costs.

“The time has come to give Americans the freedom to purchase health insurance across state lines, which will create a truly competitive national marketplace that will bring costs way down and provide far better care,” Trump said in a statement.TRUMP'S HEALTH CARE EXECUTIVE ORDER: WHAT TO KNOW

According to officials, Trump will direct the secretary of labor to consider expanding access to Association Health Plans, which could allow employers to form groups across state lines offering coverage. According to the White House, these plans could offer lower rates.

Those "association health plans" could be shielded from some state and federal insurance requirements. But responding to concerns, the White House said participating employers could not exclude any workers from the plan, or charge more to those in poor health.

The order also calls on other federal agencies to consider expanding coverage in low-cost, short-term insurance plans not subject to ObamaCare rules.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...

Finally listening to those like Rand Paul. Much better step then what was previously pushed. Still not what was promised/may not affect much overall due to rates already being so high but it is a step that makes much more sense and it is much more inline with what he promised during his campaign.

Shows some effort on his part if they will not do it themselves.
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