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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2017, 12:15:02 AM »

Exactly, I've rolled up to 405 lbs down my torso , stood and deadlifted it down MANY times - it can leave a welt/ scratch but doesn't even really hurt as your adrenaline is definitely going at that point.

a) he may not have had the strength (in which case he was lifting WAY outside his strength capacity)

b) perhaps he was so seriously injured when it dropped, that he was not capable of doing anything

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2017, 12:15:28 AM »
The roll works. The quickest for me when I didn't bench in a rack was the collars off and tilt method. It can be scary with big weights, but it beats dying under the bar. Also I wish kids and most people would stop with the false grip method of pressing. Thumbs are useful, use them :).

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2017, 12:23:57 AM »
The roll works. The quickest for me when I didn't bench in a rack was the collars off and tilt method

Oh yeah I've done that.  That works fine. 

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2017, 12:52:45 AM »
As I said, the articles say the kid was actually crushed by a smith.. on his neck.

Smiths are probably more dangerous in some cases.

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #29 on: October 02, 2017, 01:12:58 AM »
As I said, the articles say the kid was actually crushed by a smith.. on his neck.

Smiths are probably more dangerous in some cases.

Sure. My comment was just a general one.

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2017, 01:46:46 AM »
smiths ive been using goes all the way down, im sure many people never bother to adjust them before benching, that is a death trap

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2017, 03:09:17 AM »
was there a "Lift at your own risk" sign posted?

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2017, 06:46:08 AM »
why didn't he roll the barbell on his abs?  ??? it's painful, put less than death.  :-\

Had to do it once, using the same weight that kid was on.

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2017, 06:56:39 AM »
The roll works. The quickest for me when I didn't bench in a rack was the collars off and tilt method. It can be scary with big weights, but it beats dying under the bar. Also I wish kids and most people would stop with the false grip method of pressing. Thumbs are useful, use them :).

Yes, that's how I bench at home. With NO collars.

I just leave a lot of space on each side, failed a rep only twice and that bar goes flying after the weights on the one end drop off.


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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2017, 07:00:17 AM »
was there a "Lift at your own risk" sign posted?

or a "check your ego at the door"?

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2017, 07:03:24 AM »
or a "check your ego at the door"?

An employee should always be in the gym though, keeping an eye out.

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2017, 07:12:26 AM »
An employee should always be in the gym though, keeping an eye out.

Yes, but this is seldom the case. As a formal instructor myself I've experienced the "just leave me alone" attitude among most gym members. In general only women and nerdy guys pay attention to advices.

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2017, 10:44:42 AM »
15 years old is a little young to train in the gym by yourself isnt it

ive seen even younger, kids that play around with the weights like it's a playground


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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #38 on: October 03, 2017, 11:30:18 AM »
SAD   :(

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2017, 02:56:09 AM »
An employee should always be in the gym though, keeping an eye out.

Do you not have 24 hour gyms in your parts?  In Australia, they are very popular and they are most certainly NOT staffed a lot of the time.

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #40 on: October 04, 2017, 02:58:44 AM »
Do you not have 24 hour gyms in your parts?  In Australia, they are very popular and they are most certainly NOT staffed a lot of the time.
Truth. Under 16 years of age should be accompanied by an adult.

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #41 on: October 04, 2017, 03:17:16 AM »
Do you not have 24 hour gyms in your parts?  In Australia, they are very popular and they are most certainly NOT staffed a lot of the time.

Australia has a lot of regulations re gyms but not so much re safety. How gyms were allowed to stay open without staff is unbelievable. The government has to take some responsibility here.

They have some safety measures but nothing replaces staff at all times when open. Boys Clubs aren't businesses as such. They should install benches with safety rails so this sort of thing can't happen.

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #42 on: October 04, 2017, 03:39:49 AM »
Australia has a lot of regulations re gyms but not so much re safety. How gyms were allowed to stay open without staff is unbelievable. The government has to take some responsibility here.

They have some safety measures but nothing replaces staff at all times when open. Boys Clubs aren't businesses as such. They should install benches with safety rails so this sort of thing can't happen.


As I said earlier in this thread, there is a storm coming over this.

When it first came in, ALL the 24 hour gyms were phaggotesque gyms with nothing but machines.  Basically no free weights.  It made sense.

Now every gym has 24/7 and there are no limits to what you can do.

I reiterate, though, that particular accident happened on a SMITH machine! 


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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #43 on: October 04, 2017, 03:55:50 AM »
As I said earlier in this thread, there is a storm coming over this.

When it first came in, ALL the 24 hour gyms were phaggotesque gyms with nothing but machines.  Basically no free weights.  It made sense.

Now every gym has 24/7 and there are no limits to what you can do.

I reiterate, though, that particular accident happened on a SMITH machine! 



Very likely. I trained at a PCYC for 15 years, policy was a parent/guardian was always required to be present for anyone under 16 in the weights area.




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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #44 on: October 04, 2017, 05:02:04 AM »
As I said earlier in this thread, there is a storm coming over this.

When it first came in, ALL the 24 hour gyms were phaggotesque gyms with nothing but machines.  Basically no free weights.  It made sense.

Now every gym has 24/7 and there are no limits to what you can do.

I reiterate, though, that particular accident happened on a SMITH machine! 



Well, no matter how safe you make equipment guys will do weird stuff. My Smith machines wouldn't let a user hit his throat if using a flat bench in my gym.

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #45 on: October 04, 2017, 08:10:46 AM »
Truth. Under 16 years of age should be accompanied by an adult.

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #46 on: October 04, 2017, 08:13:53 AM »
Well, no matter how safe you make equipment guys will do weird stuff. My Smith machines wouldn't let a user hit his throat if using a flat bench in my gym.

You should improve your legacy in the bodybuilding industry by inventing a anti-choke benching device. Can you image the lives you can save in the future generations?

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #47 on: October 04, 2017, 11:53:36 PM »
You should improve your legacy in the bodybuilding industry by inventing a anti-choke benching device. Can you image the lives you can save in the future generations?


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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #48 on: October 07, 2017, 11:28:09 AM »
I did not even work out with weights at that age.  And at age 17, I could not bench press 135-lb.  When I started at 18 [almost 19], my starting point was around 95-lb.

So my question is: did this boy ever train before the day he died?  Whether the answer is yes or no, how familiar was he with 98-kg [216-lb]?  Did he just put it on the bar and think he could lift that?  I was closing in on 20 and one year of training before I bench pressed 225.  I hope he didn't just think he could bench press that weight on his first day of training and decided to put it on the bar.  :-\

Realistically, He did not have experience with this weight - and possibly, he did not have experience with any weight, hence his death.  As Ron said, it is tragic news and very tough for the family.

i bench pressed 130 kg when i was 17.. and i did it for 7 reps without any help when i was 21 or 22..

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #49 on: October 07, 2017, 11:55:39 AM »
wow that is crazy and sad.

Here is the thing though, everyone and their grandmother can scream all they want about safety, in which I agree, but the fact of the matter is people have been lifting weights off benches for more than a century and considering the millions of people who lift weights this has happened like very minimally and is a freak accident.

Knee jerk reactions will not prevent the one person out there who does not know their limits and accidents will always happen. Look at all those gym fail videos where people had more than one spotter.

Not saying thatn this kid was/did something stupid, but stupidity has been a factor in gyms since the beginning and will be even more so because the percentage of people using gyms the past 2 decades has exploded and will keep growing
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