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Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« on: September 30, 2017, 09:35:35 PM »
A 15 yo boy who was critically injured when was pinned by weightlifting equipment while working out at a Brisbane gym has died. Ben Shaw's neck was reportedly crushed under a 98kg bar for at least half an hour last Tuesday at the Pine Rivers PCYC *.

*Police Citizen and Youth Club (managed by cops)


A 15-year-old has died in hospital, days after he was crushed at a Brisbane gym while trying to bench press about 100 kilograms. Ben Shaw was found by a staff member at the Pine Rivers PCYC gym on Tuesday evening pinned to a bench after the weightlifting accident occurred.

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2017, 09:45:35 PM »

Wow - tragic news. Very tough for the family.

But questions - Was he by himself? Did he not have anyone watching him? No one was there when the accident happened?




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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2017, 09:51:31 PM »
If you are solo in the gym...use the machines.

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2017, 09:53:39 PM »
Wow - tragic news. Very tough for the family.

But questions - Was he by himself? Did he not have anyone watching him? No one was there when the accident happened?





PCYC is usually managed by 1 out of duty cop, no instructors/trainers until 5-6pm for boxing,MMA,etc ,...........
Totally volunteering clubs, very cheap membership fee & donated equipment . All over AU .........

Sad  we lost 1  :'(

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2017, 01:53:50 AM »
Around the corner from my mother's place. Like IronCross said - there's usually one person manning the whole facility. That's the way it's always been - I'd be sad to see the PCYC get hit for that. They provide a good service for those who can't afford much.

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2017, 02:12:04 AM »
training on your own, use dumbells..

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2017, 02:13:29 AM »
I did not even work out with weights at that age.  And at age 17, I could not bench press 135-lb.  When I started at 18 [almost 19], my starting point was around 95-lb.

So my question is: did this boy ever train before the day he died?  Whether the answer is yes or no, how familiar was he with 98-kg [216-lb]?  Did he just put it on the bar and think he could lift that?  I was closing in on 20 and one year of training before I bench pressed 225.  I hope he didn't just think he could bench press that weight on his first day of training and decided to put it on the bar.  :-\

Realistically, He did not have experience with this weight - and possibly, he did not have experience with any weight, hence his death.  As Ron said, it is tragic news and very tough for the family.

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2017, 02:23:41 AM »
Poor boy. Heavy bench press should always be spotted.

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2017, 02:43:10 AM »
I did not even work out with weights at that age.  And at age 17, I could not bench press 135-lb.  When I started at 18 [almost 19], my starting point was around 95-lb.

So my question is: did this boy ever train before the day he died?  Whether the answer is yes or no, how familiar was he with 98-kg [216-lb]?  Did he just put it on the bar and think he could lift that?  I was closing in on 20 and one year of training before I bench pressed 225.  I hope he didn't just think he could bench press that weight on his first day of training and decided to put it on the bar.  :-\

Realistically, He did not have experience with this weight - and possibly, he did not have experience with any weight, hence his death.  As Ron said, it is tragic news and very tough for the family.

its not about you its a bout a boy who died benching in Australia.

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2017, 02:45:19 AM »
thats terrible and its not the first time ive heard stories like that.

i feel the dangers of the bench press is not talked about often enough

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2017, 03:40:53 AM »
Gyms don't have a high standard re safety. In the gym I owned all the benches had safety rails so that it wasn't possible to drop the weight on your face or neck. That included bench, incline, and decline presses, press behind neck and squats. Smith machines also were at a height where the weight wouldn't hit the neck if benches were used for bench presses.

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2017, 06:44:39 AM »
that's why you should invest in a bench like this
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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2017, 07:00:21 AM »
why didn't he roll the barbell on his abs?  ??? it's painful, put less than death.  :-\

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2017, 07:04:45 AM »
If you are solo in the gym...use the machines.

or use moderate weights..

poor kid  :'(

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2017, 07:05:44 AM »
its not about you its a bout a boy who died benching in Australia.
Right. Jesus Matt shut up you're nothing special

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2017, 07:06:31 AM »
Wow - tragic news. Very tough for the family.

But questions - Was he by himself? Did he not have anyone watching him? No one was there when the accident happened?

I did a bit of reading up on this.

It's really quite unfortunate. He was by himself.  He was dropped off at a (24 hour) gym by his mother.  He was part of some powerlifting club or organisation so he probably thought he knew better re: doing the weight.

He got stuck under the bar (at the neck, so it may have been a bar that slipped out of his hand).   He may have been under the bar for up to 30 mins.  A person finally came in and saw him and helped.

I'm not sure about anywhere else, but in Australia - all gyms are now forced to be 24 hour gyms to compete - which causes very clear issues of safety with a lot of the gear being used.  I think there is a backlash coming, soon.  I don't know if this will be the one situation - but I have to wonder what will happen in the future if this happens enough times for insurance to start to put pressure on gyms to take away free weights that can cause accidents.

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2017, 07:06:51 AM »
If you are solo in the gym...use the machines.

Or dumbbells.
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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2017, 07:24:42 AM »
Apparently the kid was using a smith machine.  Was mentioned in this article about another incident (with a vid of man flailing with 120 pinning him).
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/man-pinned-after-120kg-barbell-falls-on-throat-in-second-gym-accident-in-week/news-story/2e3b44eac5af49c568761243dc8ef404

This one is fucking hilarious.  I mean, it's always serious, but read this:

Mr Layt, who spent five hours in hospital wearing a neck brace after his ordeal, has spoken out, saying lifters need to be prepared for the worst.

It was only 3kg more than my personal best, but I couldn’t lift it off,” Mr Layt said.

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2017, 07:33:32 AM »
Sad, 1st thing I teach noobs that want to w/o is how to escape while being trapped or getting stuck

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2017, 09:19:32 PM »
Sad, 1st thing I teach noobs that want to w/o is how to escape while being trapped or getting stuck

And what method do you teach?

I have lost the ability to raise the bar off my chest approx 2 times.  I never DROPPED it on my chest but just couldn't raise it off.  On these occasions I managed to either roll it down to my abs and then lift it off, or I *very awkwardly* rolled it off my body (managing to tilt it to one side so that side was on the floor and then lifting the other side over myself and onto the floor also).

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2017, 09:32:41 PM »
training on your own, use dumbells..

This. Sad someone wasn't around to save that young kind. I've had to jump in countless times to pull bars off kids going for that extra rep with too much weight. I always advise them to use the smith (with the safety stops) or db's.  :-\

Oh and don't use collars when training alone so you can dump the weight off.

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2017, 10:58:15 PM »
And what method do you teach?

I have lost the ability to raise the bar off my chest approx 2 times.  I never DROPPED it on my chest but just couldn't raise it off.  On these occasions I managed to either roll it down to my abs and then lift it off, or I *very awkwardly* rolled it off my body (managing to tilt it to one side so that side was on the floor and then lifting the other side over myself and onto the floor also).

This.  Roll it down to your abs/hips, sit up and lift it off.  Also, don't lower the bar to your neck.  Lower it to the midline of your chest.  Let's hope and pray this doesn't happen any more.

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2017, 11:37:34 PM »
I did not even work out with weights at that age.  And at age 17, I could not bench press 135-lb.  When I started at 18 [almost 19], my starting point was around 95-lb.

So my question is: did this boy ever train before the day he died?  Whether the answer is yes or no, how familiar was he with 98-kg [216-lb]?  Did he just put it on the bar and think he could lift that?  I was closing in on 20 and one year of training before I bench pressed 225.  I hope he didn't just think he could bench press that weight on his first day of training and decided to put it on the bar.  :-\

Realistically, He did not have experience with this weight - and possibly, he did not have experience with any weight, hence his death.  As Ron said, it is tragic news and very tough for the family.

And again it must be about you. Not the boy who died, no you must first start talking about you, you, you. Amazing, simply amazing.

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2017, 11:58:12 PM »
why didn't he roll the barbell on his abs?  ??? it's painful, put less than death.  :-\


Exactly, I've rolled up to 405 lbs down my torso , stood and deadlifted it down MANY times - it can leave a welt/ scratch but doesn't even really hurt as your adrenaline is definitely going at that point.

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Re: Teenager Dead After Gym Accident - Brisbane
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2017, 12:12:32 AM »
its not about you its a bout a boy who died benching in Australia.

 ;D ;D ;D

I'm starting to like your posts complaining about me now.  :D