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« on: October 02, 2017, 06:11:32 PM »


just ban all guns its like cheating to win in a fight. i hate cheaters

they will never pass the right laws to taper down gun use so just ban them

but if theyre outlawed by civilians police and military a complete outlaw then our country would be much safer
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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2017, 08:04:29 PM »

they will never pass the right laws to taper down gun use so just ban them

but if theyre outlawed by civilians police and military a complete outlaw then our country would be much safer
how's that working for the countries that grabbed all law abiding civilians guns?
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2017, 08:46:05 PM »

they will never pass the right laws to taper down gun use so just ban them

but if theyre outlawed by civilians police and military a complete outlaw then our country would be much safer

Criminals will still have guns, since they don't follow the law.

Then the law-abiding citizens are really in deep trouble with no way to defend themselves at all.
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« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2017, 09:08:20 PM »

they will never pass the right laws to taper down gun use so just ban them

but if theyre outlawed by civilians police and military a complete outlaw then our country would be much safer

No thanks.

More countries need guns.

Esp euro ones. That way civilians could take care of immigrant filth themselves
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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2017, 09:20:20 PM »

If we banned guns then ad guys would just start using more bombs like they do in Europe. We are screwed either way.
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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2017, 09:24:11 PM »

banning guns will stop alot of common murders

u will still have the mass shooting and chemical attack here or there

you dont need guns u need good food n yung poosies
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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2017, 10:22:46 PM »

banning guns will stop alot of common murders

u will still have the mass shooting and chemical attack here or there

you dont need guns u need good food n yung poosies

Bring back falcon bc this Marty guy is a fucking idiot
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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2017, 12:15:07 AM »

the only guns you need are bi's and tri's.

people that want guns are insecure people with little to no muscle mass who do not know how to defend themselves and that are just scared all the time for no reason.
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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2017, 12:20:42 AM »

http://www.smh.com.au/world/heres-why-australia-will-never-understand-the-us-obsession-with-guns-20171003-gyt7ys.html
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« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2017, 12:27:42 AM »

guns AND bullets are illegal in Mexico. see how well that's working for them?

if you DISARM the population, only the 'bad guys' will have firearms.

think about it. who wants the average citizen to NOT have guns?

CRIMINALS.

if you're a CRIMINAL, OF COURSE you don't want anybody else to have guns. because YOU have all the guns, and they CANNOT defend themselves.

who else doesn't want you to have guns? The Gov't... specifically the liberals. see a connection?
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« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2017, 12:34:03 AM »

you disarm the criminals too. problem solved.

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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2017, 12:40:34 AM »

guns AND bullets are illegal in Mexico. see how well that's working for them?

if you DISARM the population, only the 'bad guys' will have firearms.

think about it. who wants the average citizen to NOT have guns?

CRIMINALS.

if you're a CRIMINAL, OF COURSE you don't want anybody else to have guns. because YOU have all the guns, and they CANNOT defend themselves.

who else doesn't want you to have guns? The Gov't... specifically the liberals. see a connection?

You're a criminal, you have a gun, so by your above rationale you want to ban guns..

Would that be true?
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« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2017, 03:17:23 AM »

you disarm the criminals too. problem solved.

Criminals will always be able to get guns. 

A gun carry society is a polite society.
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« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2017, 03:20:09 AM »


1) Wasted debate as America will never bring in a ban
2) Las Vegas Shooter used a banned machine gun anyway so  ....
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« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2017, 03:34:41 AM »

you disarm the criminals too. problem solved.



wrong. doesn't work that way. how you gonna do that anyway? forcibly disarm the U.S. population? lol

you disarm law-abiding citizens who turn in their guns? (and for what compensation? lol again)

how many criminals are gonna turn in their guns? lol again, again.

then, if previously law-abiding citizens don't turn in their guns, they're automatically made criminals. 
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« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2017, 03:36:12 AM »

wrong. doesn't work that way. how you gonna do that anyway? forcibly disarm the U.S. population? lol

you disarm law-abiding citizens who turn in their guns? (and for what compensation? lol again)

how many criminals are gonna turn in their guns? lol again, again.

then, if previously law-abiding citizens don't turn in their guns, they're automatically made criminals. 

Caught with a gun = life without parole....?

would that have some benefit?
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« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2017, 03:46:16 AM »

Caught with a gun = life without parole....?

would that have some benefit?
They would not care. And in fact, that would make importing guns (if there was an all out gun ban) from other places more lucrative. Like Mexico. Many gun manufacturers are Euro as well. So, what will be created is a very lucrative illegal market for guns. So an outlaw will risk whatever sentence that would be on the books for that offense.

Also, a person can 3D print guns now. There are plenty of machinists who can make a gun for you, and there are plenty of diagrams, blue prints for guns.
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« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2017, 03:58:31 AM »

Caught with a gun = life without parole....?

would that have some benefit?

and tripple the u.s. prison population? troll off to another website and start over again.
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« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2017, 03:58:50 AM »

Ban all guns...and the criminals will have them anyway.
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« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2017, 04:02:51 AM »

and tripple the u.s. prison population? troll off to another website and start over again.
Not only that, going after people who had guns in rural areas to fend off an attack or burglary. Or people who hunt. Or the person with the replica gun collection or guns that have ornament engravings and are only used for collections. This would severely get out of hand.
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« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2017, 04:30:49 AM »

Firearm-related death rate per 100,000 population per year

Zimbabwe   0.39
Costa Rica   7.50
Mexico   7.64
Paraguay   7.76
Montenegro   8.91
United States   10.54
Uruguay   11.52

The Human Development Index (HDI) is a composite statistic of life expectancy, education, and income per capita indicators

#10 usa
#48 montenegro
#54 uruguay
#66 costa rica
#77 mexico
#110 paraguay
#154 zimbabwe

so even in an absolute shithole like zimbabwe, who are 144 (!) places behind usa in development they know better than kill eachother with fire arms.
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« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2017, 04:32:23 AM »


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« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2017, 04:43:02 AM »

guns AND bullets are illegal in Mexico. see how well that's working for them?

if you DISARM the population, only the 'bad guys' will have firearms.

think about it. who wants the average citizen to NOT have guns?

CRIMINALS.

if you're a CRIMINAL, OF COURSE you don't want anybody else to have guns. because YOU have all the guns, and they CANNOT defend themselves.

who else doesn't want you to have guns? The Gov't... specifically the liberals. see a connection?

Wrong. You disarm properly sending the military to do it properly. Target bikers, drug dealers, crims, people with prior convictions. You start imposing massive fines and sentences for possession. You set up anonymous reporting hotlines and make payments to tipsters. You take just a small percentage of what was going to be spent on Trumps Great Wall and put it towards removing weapons. Any resistance from "tough guys with their guns"? Kill them if needed. We can do this. We have a huge domestic terrorism problem. And we need to end it now.
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« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2017, 04:52:47 AM »

Firearm-related death rate per 100,000 population per year

Zimbabwe   0.39
Costa Rica   7.50
Mexico   7.64
Paraguay   7.76
Montenegro   8.91
United States   10.54
Uruguay   11.52

The Human Development Index (HDI) is a composite statistic of life expectancy, education, and income per capita indicators

#10 usa
#48 montenegro
#54 uruguay
#66 costa rica
#77 mexico
#110 paraguay
#154 zimbabwe

so even in an absolute shithole like zimbabwe, who are 144 (!) places behind usa in development they know better than kill eachother with fire arms.


The u.s. has mass shootings though, which would throw off the numbers against countries that don't have the same phenomena. Are there mass shootings at schools and workplaces and everywhere else in places like Montenegro or Uruguay? Or even Mexico? An educated guess would be no. Which would mean our "single victim" one-on-one crime isn't as high as those numbers would lead you to believe
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« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2017, 04:59:37 AM »

Firearm-related death rate per 100,000 population per year

Zimbabwe   0.39
Costa Rica   7.50
Mexico   7.64
Paraguay   7.76
Montenegro   8.91
United States   10.54
Uruguay   11.52

The Human Development Index (HDI) is a composite statistic of life expectancy, education, and income per capita indicators

#10 usa
#48 montenegro
#54 uruguay
#66 costa rica
#77 mexico
#110 paraguay
#154 zimbabwe

so even in an absolute shithole like zimbabwe, who are 144 (!) places behind usa in development they know better than kill eachother with fire arms.


Maybe you should dig a little deeper into the numbers:



http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/year_end_2015_enforcement_report.pdf

The race/ethnicity of known Robbery suspects is primarily Black (69.2%). Hispanic suspects account for an additional (24.9%) of the suspect population. White suspects account for (4.0%) of all Robbery suspects while Asian /Pacific Islanders accounted for (1.8%) of known Robbery suspects




http://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/year-end-2016-enforcement-report.pdf


The race/ethnicity of known Shooting suspects is most frequently Black (70.7%). Hispanic suspects accounted for an additional (26.9%) of all suspects. White suspects (1.9%) and Asian/Pacific Islander suspects (0.6%) accounted for the remaining portion of known Shooting suspects



https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/08/10/african-american-homicide-rate-nearly-quadruple-national-average-11680


The CDC confirms that, following an extended period of general decline, the overall homicide rate -- as well as the homicide rate within each racial group -- has increased from 2014 to 2015. In 2015, the homicide rates were (per 100,000 population):


20.9 for blacks (non-Hispanic)

4.9 for Hispanics

2.6 for whites (non-Hispanic)

5.7 for all races


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