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« on: October 05, 2017, 01:36:41 PM »

1) They breathe air, attend work or school, and pay taxes (congratulations, they do what a semi-retard can). Let them stay. They're future engineers, doctors, lawyers, scientists. Not only that, they do the jobs we don't want to do. Without such special people, we won't even be able to tie our own shoelaces.

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2) Get them out! They're the beneficiaries of criminals, adults who came here illegally. Strangely, white Americans managed to develop an amazing nation without anyone else beforehand.
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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2017, 01:41:24 PM »

1) They breathe air, attend work or school, and pay taxes (congratulations, they do what a semi-retard can). Let them stay. They're future engineers, doctors, lawyers, scientists. Not only that, they do the jobs we don't want to do. Without such special people, we won't even be able to tie our own shoelaces.

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2) Get them out! They're the beneficiaries of criminals, adults who came here illegally. Strangely, white Americans managed to develop an amazing nation without anyone else beforehand.
Many are adults. No excuses for them not having tried to do the right thing themselves.
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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2017, 01:46:21 PM »

1) They breathe air, attend work or school, and pay taxes (congratulations, they do what a semi-retard can). Let them stay. They're future engineers, doctors, lawyers, scientists. Not only that, they do the jobs we don't want to do. Without such special people, we won't even be able to tie our own shoelaces.

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2) Get them out! They're the beneficiaries of criminals, adults who came here illegally. Strangely, white Americans managed to develop an amazing nation without anyone else beforehand.

Complex issue.  I'd be inclined to let them stay if we started enforcing our borders and cutting off the flow of illegal immigration.  Until we do that it's going to be hard to start making more concessions.

The big question for me is how do we prove that someone was brought here as a child?  Any system we put in place is going to be cheated and abused.

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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2017, 01:47:59 PM »

First, I think we should have all the DACA people register themselves and we'll sew a little patch onto their garments so we can identify them.  Later on we can come up with a final solution.   Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2017, 01:57:30 PM »

There will be no cut off point if they are all allowed to stay, etc. It will become "mean" to then send out the future "dreamers" that will inevitably come.

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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2017, 03:07:22 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2017, 04:39:34 PM »

Complex issue.  I'd be inclined to let them stay if we started enforcing our borders and cutting off the flow of illegal immigration.  Until we do that it's going to be hard to start making more concessions.

The big question for me is how do we prove that someone was brought here as a child?  Any system we put in place is going to be cheated and abused.


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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2017, 05:01:24 PM »

Op you know you can make an actual poll for the thread right?
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2017, 05:53:02 PM »

1) They breathe air, attend work or school, and pay taxes (congratulations, they do what a semi-retard can). Let them stay. They're future engineers, doctors, lawyers, scientists. Not only that, they do the jobs we don't want to do. Without such special people, we won't even be able to tie our own shoelaces.




That's a hugely assumptive loaded question/statement for option #1!

Tell me how you pay taxes without citizenship again?
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2017, 06:08:35 PM »

Coach is Hispanic.
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2017, 06:15:47 PM »

They're future engineers, doctors, lawyers, scientists.

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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2017, 06:15:50 PM »

I'd swap Dreamers out 1 for one with people who video people drowning and do nothing, watch people get beat unconscious and do nothing, live off welfare and no plans to get off..we have bigger problems than Dreamers in our country
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2017, 06:23:40 PM »

you left out the poor suffering individuals who go on disability because of fibromyalgia......
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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2017, 07:07:51 PM »


That's a hugely assumptive loaded question/statement for option #1!

Tell me how you pay taxes without citizenship again?

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« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2017, 07:14:07 PM »

1) They breathe air, attend work or school, and pay taxes (congratulations, they do what a semi-retard can). Let them stay. They're future engineers, doctors, lawyers, scientists. Not only that, they do the jobs we don't want to do. Without such special people, we won't even be able to tie our own shoelaces.

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2) Get them out! They're the beneficiaries of criminals, adults who came here illegally. Strangely, white Americans managed to develop an amazing nation without anyone else beforehand.

Below is the full list of foreign-born billionaires in the U.S:

  Sergey Brin, Russia, $34.4 billion
  George Soros, Hungary, $24.9 billion
  Len Blavatnik, Ukraine, $15.3 billion
  Patrick Soon-Shiong, South Africa, $11.9 billion
  Thomas Peterffy, Hungary, $11.1 billion
  Elon Musk, South Africa, $10.7 billion
  Rupert Murdoch, Australia, $10.6 billion
  Jan Koum, Ukraine, $8.6 billion
  Pierre Omidyar, France, $7.2 billion
  Hansjoerg Wyss, Switzerland, $6.1 billion
  Shahid Khan, Pakistan, $5.9 billion
  David Sun, Taiwan, $4.5 billion
  John Tu, China, $4.5 billion
  Do Won and Jin Sook Chang, Korea, $4 billion
  Jeffrey Skoll, Canada, $3.9 billion
  Steven Udvar-Hazy, Hungary, $3.5 billion
  Hoang Kieu, Vietnam, $3.5 billion
  Isaac Perlmutter, Israel, $3.5 billion
  Haim Saban, Egypt, $3.5 billion
  Igor Olenicoff, Russia, $3.5 billion
  John Catsimatidis, Greece, $3.4 billion
  Andreas von Bechtolsheim, Germany, $3.3 billion
  Tom Gores, Israel, $3.3 billion
  Jorge Perez, Argentina, $3 billion
  Romesh T. Wadhwani, India, $2.8 billion
  Peggy and Andrew Cherng, Burma and China, $2.7 billion
  Peter Thiel, Germany, $2.7 billion
  Michael Moritz, U.K., $2.6 billion
  Bharat Desai and Neerja Sethi, Kenya, $2.5 billion
  Mortimer Zuckerman, Canada, $2.5 billion
  Douglas Leone, Italy, $2.4 billion
  C. Dean Metropoulos, Greece, $2.4 billion
  Min Kao, Taiwan, $2.2 billion
  Alec Gores, Israel, $2.1 billion
  John Kapoor, India, $2 billion
  Kavitark Ram Shriram, India, $1.8 billion
  Marc Lasry, Morocco, $1.7 billion
  John Farber, Romania, $1.5 billion
  Adam Neumann, Israel, $1.5 billion
  Jerry Yang, Taiwan, $1.5 billion
  Hamdi Ulukaya, Turkey, $1.5 billion
  Vinod Khosla, India, $1.5 billion
  Fayez Sarofim, Egypt, $1.4 billion
  Thomas Sandell, Sweden, $1.3 billion
  David Hindawi, Iraq, $1 billion
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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2017, 07:16:15 PM »

Below is the full list of foreign-born billionaires in the U.S:

  Sergey Brin, Russia, $34.4 billion
  George Soros, Hungary, $24.9 billion
  Len Blavatnik, Ukraine, $15.3 billion
  Patrick Soon-Shiong, South Africa, $11.9 billion
  Thomas Peterffy, Hungary, $11.1 billion
  Elon Musk, South Africa, $10.7 billion
  Rupert Murdoch, Australia, $10.6 billion
  Jan Koum, Ukraine, $8.6 billion
  Pierre Omidyar, France, $7.2 billion
  Hansjoerg Wyss, Switzerland, $6.1 billion
  Shahid Khan, Pakistan, $5.9 billion
  David Sun, Taiwan, $4.5 billion
  John Tu, China, $4.5 billion
  Do Won and Jin Sook Chang, Korea, $4 billion
  Jeffrey Skoll, Canada, $3.9 billion
  Steven Udvar-Hazy, Hungary, $3.5 billion
  Hoang Kieu, Vietnam, $3.5 billion
  Isaac Perlmutter, Israel, $3.5 billion
  Haim Saban, Egypt, $3.5 billion
  Igor Olenicoff, Russia, $3.5 billion
  John Catsimatidis, Greece, $3.4 billion
  Andreas von Bechtolsheim, Germany, $3.3 billion
  Tom Gores, Israel, $3.3 billion
  Jorge Perez, Argentina, $3 billion
  Romesh T. Wadhwani, India, $2.8 billion
  Peggy and Andrew Cherng, Burma and China, $2.7 billion
  Peter Thiel, Germany, $2.7 billion
  Michael Moritz, U.K., $2.6 billion
  Bharat Desai and Neerja Sethi, Kenya, $2.5 billion
  Mortimer Zuckerman, Canada, $2.5 billion
  Douglas Leone, Italy, $2.4 billion
  C. Dean Metropoulos, Greece, $2.4 billion
  Min Kao, Taiwan, $2.2 billion
  Alec Gores, Israel, $2.1 billion
  John Kapoor, India, $2 billion
  Kavitark Ram Shriram, India, $1.8 billion
  Marc Lasry, Morocco, $1.7 billion
  John Farber, Romania, $1.5 billion
  Adam Neumann, Israel, $1.5 billion
  Jerry Yang, Taiwan, $1.5 billion
  Hamdi Ulukaya, Turkey, $1.5 billion
  Vinod Khosla, India, $1.5 billion
  Fayez Sarofim, Egypt, $1.4 billion
  Thomas Sandell, Sweden, $1.3 billion
  David Hindawi, Iraq, $1 billion


What does this have to do with this topic?
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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2017, 07:18:33 PM »

What does this have to do with this topic?

I bet our liberal friend primeCuckle doesn't realize everyone on that list came to the us legally.


It is true that US immigrants are several times more likely to become millionaires but that is only if they migrated to legally.
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« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2017, 07:30:10 PM »

Coach is Hispanic.

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« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2017, 07:30:57 PM »

America first.
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« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2017, 08:07:10 PM »

I bet our liberal friend primeCuckle doesn't realize everyone on that list came to the us legally.


It is true that US immigrants are several times more likely to become millionaires but that is only if they migrated to legally.

My ancestors were among the earliest settlers in America. They fought in the Revolutionary War. My grandfather was a member of the Sons of the American Revolution (SAR) and I am to, if I were to apply. If you don't know what this means, look it up! That's right, "Prime chuckle" is more American than most of you fools are, including Trump, who is a third generation immigrant. We are all immigrants unless we are Native Americans. Had it not been for us immigrants, America would still be solely inhabited with Native American people.

Hmm...maybe that's the fear. Immigrants whether legal or not, will eventually be the majority population of America and us oldtimer's will be the marginalized. Think about it.

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« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2017, 08:12:26 PM »

you left out the poor suffering individuals who go on disability because of fibromyalgia......
on a side note.. cure mesothomapilia because the commercials are friggin annoying
 
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« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2017, 08:22:59 PM »

My ancestors were among the earliest settlers in America. They fought in the Revolutionary War. My grandfather was a member of the Sons of the American Revolution (SAR) and I am to, if I were to apply. If you don't know what this means, look it up! That's right, "Prime chuckle" is more American than most of you fools are, including Trump, who is a third generation immigrant. We are all immigrants unless we are Native Americans. Had it not been for us immigrants, America would still be solely inhabited with Native American people.

Hmm...maybe that's the fear. Immigrants whether legal or not, will eventually be the majority population of America and us oldtimer's will be the marginalized. Think about it.



That has nothing to do with the point I made. Run along now.
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« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2017, 08:36:57 PM »

That has nothing to do with the point I made. Run along now.

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« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2017, 10:57:20 PM »

Below is the full list of foreign-born billionaires in the U.S:

  Sergey Brin, Russia, $34.4 billion
  George Soros, Hungary, $24.9 billion
  Len Blavatnik, Ukraine, $15.3 billion
  Patrick Soon-Shiong, South Africa, $11.9 billion
  Thomas Peterffy, Hungary, $11.1 billion
  Elon Musk, South Africa, $10.7 billion
  Rupert Murdoch, Australia, $10.6 billion
  Jan Koum, Ukraine, $8.6 billion
  Pierre Omidyar, France, $7.2 billion
  Hansjoerg Wyss, Switzerland, $6.1 billion
  Shahid Khan, Pakistan, $5.9 billion
  David Sun, Taiwan, $4.5 billion
  John Tu, China, $4.5 billion
  Do Won and Jin Sook Chang, Korea, $4 billion
  Jeffrey Skoll, Canada, $3.9 billion
  Steven Udvar-Hazy, Hungary, $3.5 billion
  Hoang Kieu, Vietnam, $3.5 billion
  Isaac Perlmutter, Israel, $3.5 billion
  Haim Saban, Egypt, $3.5 billion
  Igor Olenicoff, Russia, $3.5 billion
  John Catsimatidis, Greece, $3.4 billion
  Andreas von Bechtolsheim, Germany, $3.3 billion
  Tom Gores, Israel, $3.3 billion
  Jorge Perez, Argentina, $3 billion
  Romesh T. Wadhwani, India, $2.8 billion
  Peggy and Andrew Cherng, Burma and China, $2.7 billion
  Peter Thiel, Germany, $2.7 billion
  Michael Moritz, U.K., $2.6 billion
  Bharat Desai and Neerja Sethi, Kenya, $2.5 billion
  Mortimer Zuckerman, Canada, $2.5 billion
  Douglas Leone, Italy, $2.4 billion
  C. Dean Metropoulos, Greece, $2.4 billion
  Min Kao, Taiwan, $2.2 billion
  Alec Gores, Israel, $2.1 billion
  John Kapoor, India, $2 billion
  Kavitark Ram Shriram, India, $1.8 billion
  Marc Lasry, Morocco, $1.7 billion
  John Farber, Romania, $1.5 billion
  Adam Neumann, Israel, $1.5 billion
  Jerry Yang, Taiwan, $1.5 billion
  Hamdi Ulukaya, Turkey, $1.5 billion
  Vinod Khosla, India, $1.5 billion
  Fayez Sarofim, Egypt, $1.4 billion
  Thomas Sandell, Sweden, $1.3 billion
  David Hindawi, Iraq, $1 billion


They would be better off in their homeland's helping their people, at least the one's from India and pakistan. Let's be real about that list, most of them aren't from third world shit hole's. Why don't we be honest about the majority of people coming here. That list does't represent reality. The majority coming in are unskilled and have an IQ of 80 or lower which according to our standards makes them mentally retarded. We already have our own retards including all the illegals in our country now. Do you think jose will be taking your order five years from now at mcdonald's? What the fuck are we supposed to do with these people as the jobs they have become obselete?

Europe and the United States can't continue to take in millions of people a year. The world's 3.6 billion poorest people are getting poorer. Another 2 billion average $2.00 a day and these 5 billion people are adding another 80 million babies a year to the population and they all want to come here.

What the fuck is the plan here white people? If we continue down this road western civilization will be destroyed. Any of the pro immigration people like you want to answer that? Got any answers other than just keep bringing them in because of white guilt?


Fucking liberal baby boomer cu nts fucked us all. We need a new AIDS, the old one just ain't cutting it anymore right prime?
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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2017, 06:18:03 AM »

I don't give a rat's ass about more than half the people on that list and I actually detest Elon Musk. Peter Thiel is my favorite on there though, a white man who recognized multiculturalism is destructive.
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