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Is was a training question to prove he knows nothing and proved by not being able to back his shit up.
you started this thread because you were butt hurt that I call you a phony coach and a moron
still not quite sure why you care what I think but it's evident from reading this thread that many people share the same opinion
regarding your "training question" we've had this very same discussion at least a couple of times in the past
you posted a video of your kid squatting (and the video link didn't even work which is emblematic of almost everything that you do) and INVITED people to flame on.
you didn't even bother to mention that your kid was doing a box squat until someone called you on it
I merely made the claim that box squats are pretty much worthless for anything except powerlifting (remember you keep claiming you train this movement to improve athletic performance) and one rep box squats are idiotic, especially for teenagers. One rep anything is almost worthless for anything and certainly not worth the risk of injury to an athlete who is lifting weights to improve his ability in a particular sport.
Rather than give you my opinion I gave you the detailed argument against box squats for sports training from an actual legitimate professional coach
If I recall correctly, instead of trying to address his arguments you just screamed something to the effect of "who cares what he thinks" which of course leads to the response of then why should anyone give a fuck what you think
As I said of the first page of this thread if you want to keep selling that bullshit it makes no difference to me.
Your unfortunate students will eventually figure out the truth for themselves
Q: What do you think of having athletes do box squats? What about bodybuilders?
A: I never use them. With athletes, you want the most bang for your buck, the highest return, because you only have eleven weeks on average to train them during their off-season. So the choice of exercises becomes really important.
The problem I have with box squats is that their application is limited to powerlifting. The reason being is the goal of powerlifting is to lift the highest amount of weight for the shortest amount of distance within the rules. Essentially in the box squat, your shins don't travel forward. Now I don't know of any sport where the shins don't travel forward for propulsion. So the mechanics of the box squat aren't found in sport.
Do you think all the Westside people are up in arms yet and have me on their hit list? But it's the Bruce Lee principle again: use what is useful and reject what is not. Box squats are the only thing in the Westside system I don't agree with. They only have applications for powerlifting.
Also, any sort of restricted movement pattern tends to change soft tissue integrity. One thing you'll find with people who do a lot of box squats is that they're abnormally tight in the piriformis muscle, for example. In sports where you have to change direction a lot, the box squat will actually decrease your power because you won't be able to use those muscles efficiently.
Finally, most of the athletes I have are highly paid. There's a risk when doing box squats of the athlete bouncing on the box due to lack of concentration. The trauma that can result on the sacral vertebraes could be tremendous. There are just better alternatives. If you're a powerlifter, they're great. If you're any other type of athlete, stay away from the box squat.
Now, as far as bodybuilding is concerned, you can inject box squats sparingly into the training process. They will hypertrophy the thighs and glutes. But bodybuilding isn't an athletic endeavor. Most bodybuilders can't walk and chew gum at the same time. They're not known for coordination!
https://www.t-nation.com/training/question-of-strength-35
