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Tonight's question from the gym...
« on: October 27, 2017, 10:09:50 PM »
Does anyone still "do abs"? ???

Seems to have fallen out of style. I stopped any consistent ab work probably 5+ years ago. Don't know if it's made a difference.

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Re: Tonight's question from the gym...
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2017, 10:50:21 PM »
Does anyone still "do abs"? ???

Seems to have fallen out of style. I stopped any consistent ab work probably 5+ years ago. Don't know if it's made a difference.

I haven't trained and since 1999

Aside from demonstrating ab machines or Kettlebells crunches/Russian twists during boot camps and such.

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Re: Tonight's question from the gym...
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2017, 11:15:18 PM »
Does anyone still "do abs"? ???

Seems to have fallen out of style. I stopped any consistent ab work probably 5+ years ago. Don't know if it's made a difference.

If you bodybuild or train like a bodybuillder why wouldn't you? It's a muscle......train it.

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Re: Tonight's question from the gym...
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2017, 11:27:37 PM »
 I have much more in common with a strength athlete than a bodybuilder but,  high frequency front Squats, chins, and standing overhead (BTN) pressing hits my core pretty well. If I was going to go full bodybuilder I would throw in some direct ab work for the additional hypertrophy of the abs that it gives you. As it is I have a vague six pack when relaxed but it could be improved if that was my desire.

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Re: Tonight's question from the gym...
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2017, 11:34:20 PM »
I have much more in common with a strength athlete than a bodybuilder but,  high frequency front Squats, chins, and standing overhead (BTN) pressing hits my core pretty well. If I was going to go full bodybuilder I would through in some direct ab work for the additional hypertrophy of the abs that it gives you. As it is I have a vague six pack when relaxed but it could be improved if that was my desire.

Not nearly enough.

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Re: Tonight's question from the gym...
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2017, 11:47:23 PM »
Not nearly enough.

Keeping in mind that my goals prioritize function over aesthetic, what would you add?

Currently using these movements in addition to said front squats , chins, and standing (BTN) presses (some of which also hit to varying degrees):
RDL
Flat
Incline
Close Grip
Lateral raises
BB row
rear delt fly
Clean from the hang
Curls (LOL)  ;D

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Re: Tonight's question from the gym...
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2017, 12:01:46 AM »
If you bodybuild or train like a bodybuillder why wouldn't you? It's a muscle......train it.

Doing tons of crunches, planks, etc. is nothing like the training bodybuilders do for their arms, back, legs, chest, shoulders, etc. and weighted ab exercises feel awkward and ineffective ineffective.

Your abs are similar to your lower back. Do people do high rep body weight exercises for lower back? No, yet everyone does them for abs... Why?

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Re: Tonight's question from the gym...
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2017, 12:11:59 AM »
Doing tons of crunches, planks, etc. is nothing like the training bodybuilders do for their arms, back, legs, chest, shoulders, etc. and weighted ab exercises feel awkward and ineffective ineffective.

Your abs are similar to your lower back. Do people do high rep body weight exercises for lower back? No, yet everyone does them for abs... Why?



Why --Lack of knowledge - Myth -spot reduction - ::)
To name a few.

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Re: Tonight's question from the gym...
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2017, 12:20:11 AM »
Keeping in mind that my goals prioritize function over aesthetic, what would you add?

Currently using these movements also (some of which also hit to varying degrees)
RDL
Flat
Incline
Close Grip
Lateral raises
BB row
rear delt fly
Clean from the hang
Curls (LOL)  ;D


It looks like all of the work you’re doing is saggital. “Core” is made up of 12 muscles including rotational and lumbar. Core for power we do a ton of med ball (upright and ground based) as well as anti-rotation work to protect the spine. We do core work everyday. Here’s a sample of a power rotation drill w/med ball and anti-rotation using a sled...

https://instagram.com/p/BSxkvr2h9gL/

https://instagram.com/p/BP_q-QmBU_H/

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Re: Tonight's question from the gym...
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2017, 12:22:53 AM »
It looks like all of the work you’re doing is saggital. “Core” is made up of 12 muscles including rotational and lumbar. Core for power we do a ton of med ball (upright and ground based) as well as anti-rotation work to protect the spine. We do core work everyday. Here’s a sample of a power rotation drill w/med ball and anti-rotation using a sled...

https://instagram.com/p/BSxkvr2h9gL/

https://instagram.com/p/BP_q-QmBU_H/


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Re: Tonight's question from the gym...
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2017, 12:25:11 AM »
I haven't trained and since 1999

fixed.

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Re: Tonight's question from the gym...
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2017, 03:57:48 AM »
It looks like all of the work you’re doing is saggital. “Core” is made up of 12 muscles including rotational and lumbar. Core for power we do a ton of med ball (upright and ground based) as well as anti-rotation work to protect the spine. We do core work everyday. Here’s a sample of a power rotation drill w/med ball and anti-rotation using a sled...

https://instagram.com/p/BSxkvr2h9gL/

https://instagram.com/p/BP_q-QmBU_H/


10pts for using a term I bet less than a handful understand lol (everybody's googling it now lol)

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Re: Tonight's question from the gym...
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2017, 03:59:00 AM »
10pts for using a term I bet less than a handful understand lol (everybody's googling it now lol)

-10 points for praising a misspelling of the word

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Re: Tonight's question from the gym...
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2017, 04:07:16 AM »
-10 points for praising a misspelling of the word

At least I knew what he meant and didn't have to Google it to find out its misspelled

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Re: Tonight's question from the gym...
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2017, 04:08:04 AM »
-10 points for praising a misspelling of the word

How many certs do you have? How many Perform Better summits have you been to?

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Re: Tonight's question from the gym...
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2017, 04:08:57 AM »
At least I knew what he meant and didn't have to Google it to find out its misspelled

nigga i got perfect sat verbal i know my damn words

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Re: Tonight's question from the gym...
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2017, 04:09:32 AM »
How many certs do you have? How many Perform Better summits have you been to?

how many shits do i give about useless certificates they hand out like candy to all sorts of idiotic morons, best exemplified by your having been given (more than) one?

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Re: Tonight's question from the gym...
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2017, 04:09:51 AM »
guy i got perfect sat verbal i know my damn words

Again... Not answering the question I ask

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Re: Tonight's question from the gym...
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2017, 04:10:51 AM »
how many shits do i give about useless certificates they hand out like candy to all sorts of idiotic morons, best exemplified by your having been given (more than) one?

 ::) ::)

Like I said... No answer to the question.

I take that as zero.

Score one for Google enabling your trolling

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Re: Tonight's question from the gym...
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2017, 04:11:55 AM »
Again... Not answering the question I ask


there was no question in the post i replied with that to

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Re: Tonight's question from the gym...
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2017, 04:48:02 AM »
Yes

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Re: Tonight's question from the gym...
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2017, 05:21:57 AM »
How many certs do you have? How many Perform Better summits have you been to?

You will claim more than him and then ask us to prove you havent got them.

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Re: Tonight's question from the gym...
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2017, 05:50:47 AM »
You will claim more than him and then ask us to prove you havent got them.

i have a grand total of zero certs

very proud of that fact to be honest

to eric: who the hell needs a certification to pick up weights and put them down

fuck's sake there is an infinite variety of better things to study

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Re: Tonight's question from the gym...
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2017, 06:08:35 AM »
i have a grand total of zero certs

very proud of that fact to be honest

to eric: who the hell needs a certification to pick up weights and put them down

fuck's sake there is an infinite variety of better things to study
You're a good poster but seems like you're starting to follow ESF around. We have be there for that don't be that guy

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Re: Tonight's question from the gym...
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2017, 06:15:13 AM »
You're a good poster but seems like you're starting to follow ESF around. We have be there for that don't be that guy

maybe a few more people should call him out on his constant bullshit, I have left him alone for a while, he just gets carried away and starts spouting shit again.

Fuck me, people are now blowing smoke up his arse in his online battle with GH15.

Wake up call.....they are both bullshitting liars.