These threads do more harm than good. Here is the problem. What is the test of truth about anabolic drugs? Well, except for a few university studies there is no test. In the vacuum arises all manner of experts and gurus who have some experience using these drugs. There is no way to know or even check the information about what they disclose or sell. Therefore, everyone is in the dark here and this is a very risky business. Those who follow what others say are literally the blind following the blind.
In the seventies we were afraid of any side effects of Dianabol. I took 2 tablets a day for a couple of months on a few occasions and that was that. No way I was going to try more or do injectables. No thanks. No title or trophy was worth risking my health. Compare that with the cavalier attitude of so many bodybuilders today. Here on Getbig guys like DJ, who has almost no capacity to get large, are convinced they need this and that to look better. Goodness me what a bankrupt assembly of wannabes. Many keep posting here to gain some sort of validation for what they are doing. They take dangerous drugs to impress the Flotsam on Getbig. That really is evidence of an unsound mind.
How bout we speak from experience.
How bout steroids kill? Cause liver failure. Kidney failure. Etc...
Who's dying? Guys who use stims and painkillers and carry high bodyweights for 20-30yrs.
What kills kidneys? Blood pressure. How bout you control it instead of being purple.. High hematocrit levels etc..
Liver? LoL plenty of alcoholics pound booze for years before their livers fail.. And when most alcoholics stop their livers are fine. Guys freak out over the bro science that says anything above 150mg Anadrol per day will destroy your liver. Yet nobody takes fucking time to read the literature (like yourself). If an 80lb child in poor health is recommended 300-450mg/day Anadrol for a minimum of 6-9months, What the fuck is an otherwise healthy 220+lb bodybuilder worried about 150mg a day for 6-8weeks. (Think of some known heavy Anadrol users. Nasser, Levrone, Taylor, milos, how many are dead from liver issues or had to retire because of them? Nasser? Who used 5g test a week till he died years after he stopped competing? LoL I can Think of one guy who had liver issues and had to retire. Black guy from then80s.I forget his name.
Sure pj braun had issues. Who else? Dereck Anthony? You gonna use him as an example? Nevermind all the speedballs he was doing daily. Painkilllers, ghb, benzos countered by speed and coke. Lol great example. Steroids were probably keeping him alive for fucks sake.
Rich piana? Uncontroled blood pressure combined with speedballing painkillers and adderall. Nice example there as well.