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Who has better functional strength Fred Hatfield or tom platz
« on: November 03, 2017, 06:40:03 PM »
Im leaning towards platz he used more range of motion stronger in the high reps range

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Re: Who has better functional strength Fred Hatfield or tom platz
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2017, 03:28:08 AM »
Im leaning towards platz he used more range of motion stronger in the high reps range

I'd say Tom also.

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Re: Who has better functional strength Fred Hatfield or tom platz
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2017, 04:17:38 AM »
I's say the strongest squatter for their times, Dr. Squat.
Fred's Dead, so Tom wins it now...

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Re: Who has better functional strength Fred Hatfield or tom platz
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2017, 05:25:11 AM »
Im leaning towards platz he used more range of motion stronger in the high reps range

Could we extend this and pose the question, who has more functional strength in general, powerlifters or bodybuilders?

I would have to say Tom, for the reasons mentioned above.  Does functional strength have some relationship with stamina?  For example, I know a strongman competitor who deadlifted and squatted 700 pounds, but not easily move around - his mobility in general was poor.  In fact, for one provincial strongman contest, for [I believe] a harness truck pull [rope in hand for balance], he simply stopped on the spot seconds before the event clock ran out.  Meanwhile, all he had to do was just fall forward, and his head would have crossed the finish line, and he would have completed the event.  :-\  He used that as evidence that he was not cut out for strongman, and I felt badly for him.  I think he underestimated how valuable his raw power would be in strongman contests.  I don't care how bad your cardio is - a 700 deadlift and 700 squat is going to be a huge plus in almost any strongman contest.

Back to the point - is it more "functional strength" to bench press 315x12 or 405x1?  Or is functional strength a matter of being able to move furniture and do day to day things?  I think we assume based on appearance, that bodybuilders have more functional strength - but as a fan of strongman and bit of a competitor in the sport myself, I would like to think that maximal power is functional.

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Re: Who has better functional strength Fred Hatfield or tom platz
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2017, 06:11:19 AM »
who cares

V-taper with a tiny narrow waist and nice arms and pecs are all that matters

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Re: Who has better functional strength Fred Hatfield or tom platz
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2017, 06:24:41 AM »

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Re: Who has better functional strength Fred Hatfield or tom platz
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2017, 06:28:10 AM »


 :-*

less than 3 wweks in

added 3.5 kg and over then next 3 weeks ill add bout 5-6

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Re: Who has better functional strength Fred Hatfield or tom platz
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2017, 09:35:28 AM »
:-*

less than 3 wweks in

added 3.5 kg (of water weight) and over then next 3 weeks ill add bout 5-6 (of water weight)

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Fixed for accuracy.

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Re: Who has better functional strength Fred Hatfield or tom platz
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2017, 09:41:12 AM »
Never forget.



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Re: Who has better functional strength Fred Hatfield or tom platz
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2017, 09:44:23 AM »
Fixed for accuracy.

clever

p.s. muscle is comprised of over 70% water

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Re: Who has better functional strength Fred Hatfield or tom platz
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2017, 09:47:51 AM »
clever

p.s. muscle is comprised of over 70% water

Shame you seem to be missing that critical other 30%

I'm just messing with you, by the way. I appreciate your willingness to post pictures and keep this place active.

I wish you all the best on your progress.

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Re: Who has better functional strength Fred Hatfield or tom platz
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2017, 09:54:12 AM »
Shame you seem to be missing that critical other 30%

I'm just messing with you, by the way. I appreciate your willingness to post pictures and keep this place active.

I wish you all the best on your progress.

thanks bro

i bet that you arent an americant

am i right?

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Re: Who has better functional strength Fred Hatfield or tom platz
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2017, 09:54:57 AM »
Platz looks like a old tranny grandmother. 120 pounds maybe.
Why even mention his name anymore. Maybe I'm just mad because I went to
His 800 dollar squat seminar. 😩😩😩😩😩

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Re: Who has better functional strength Fred Hatfield or tom platz
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2017, 09:55:03 AM »
Could we extend this and pose the question, who has more functional strength in general, powerlifters or bodybuilders?


Back to the point - is it more "functional strength" to bench press 315x12 or 405x1?  Or is functional strength a matter of being able to move furniture and do day to day things?  I think we assume based on appearance, that bodybuilders have more functional strength - but as a fan of strongman and bit of a competitor in the sport myself, I would like to think that maximal power is functional.

Unanswerable question. For every Powerlifter like Anthony Clark or Scott Mendelson, you've got a super athletic one like Tom Magee, Kazmaier, etc..... And for every athletic bodybuilder, you've got a Kovacs, etc..... And the other stuff is dictated by what is being asked in the moment.

The answer in Strongman, which is the most functional of the strength sports is cross training (mixed with periods of event specific stuff).

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Re: Who has better functional strength Fred Hatfield or tom platz
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2017, 10:21:53 AM »
Unanswerable question. For every Powerlifter like Anthony Clark or Scott Mendelson, you've got a super athletic one like Tom Magee, Kazmaier, etc..... And for every athletic bodybuilder, you've got a Kovacs, etc..... And the other stuff is dictated by what is being asked in the moment.

The answer in Strongman, which is the most functional of the strength sports is cross training (mixed with periods of event specific stuff).

Great post, BB.  I love questions like this, even though no matter how many times they are asked, they always have the same answer.

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Re: Who has better functional strength Fred Hatfield or tom platz
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2017, 01:54:25 PM »


Blaha

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Re: Who has better functional strength Fred Hatfield or tom platz
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2017, 02:13:46 PM »
ask yourself what bodybuilder, powerlifter, or strongman could even run out of the water like this today?

starts at 30:20

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Re: Who has better functional strength Fred Hatfield or tom platz
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2017, 09:17:03 PM »
What the hell is functional strength?

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Re: Who has better functional strength Fred Hatfield or tom platz
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2017, 09:34:31 PM »
What the hell is functional strength?

And what functions are you looking to perform?  Do you want to dig a hole and fill it up?  Move a pile of stones?  Chop down a tree?  Kick in a door?  Lift a car off a kid? Or simply crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the Lamentations of the Libtards?

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Re: Who has better functional strength Fred Hatfield or tom platz
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2017, 09:51:47 PM »
What the hell is functional strength?

ask your mom