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Arthur Jones...Bulletin 1...1970
« on: November 04, 2017, 07:57:40 AM »
Find it online for free and read. Just read it for the first time in my 35th year of training. Amazing stuff. This is the essence of his philosophy.  It is HIT at its purest and most efficient. Not the watered down Mentzer version...nor the pussy footing Ellington Darden version. This is 1970 and Jones immediately prior to training Casey Viator. Long read but fantastic. If his 1970 theories had stayed the bible of HIT.....many more would have benefited. It is higher sets but still low. Warmups. 3 days per week. Faster powerful rep speed. And not worrying about how many reps but training to crazy failure with cheating reps and partials added to the set. It is all out madness.Goid stuff from the original.

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Re: Arthur Jones...Bulletin 1...1970
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2017, 08:11:23 AM »
honestly you dont have to work that fucking hard to make gains

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Re: Arthur Jones...Bulletin 1...1970
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2017, 08:16:01 AM »
honestly you dont have to work that fucking hard to make gains
I agree with you. It is just one of many means. Some enjoy such all out effort. Some prefer long hours in gym. Both are valid.

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Re: Arthur Jones...Bulletin 1...1970
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2017, 08:33:02 AM »
honestly you dont have to work that fucking hard to make gains

Well.............if that's your stance. Why then are you boasting your use of Deca? Not trying to hate on you, however your posted picture reveals a build of a junior maybe senior in high school, and that's after using Deca?
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Re: Arthur Jones...Bulletin 1...1970
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2017, 08:44:34 AM »
Well.............if that's your stance. Why then are you boasting your use of Deca? Not trying to hate on you, however your posted picture reveals a build of a junior maybe senior in high school, and that's after using Deca?

been om deca just 3 weeks now, sbould i turn into superman in 3 weeks  ???

gained 3.5 kg so far and i will add another 5-6 kg over the next 3 weeks

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Re: Arthur Jones...Bulletin 1...1970
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2017, 09:08:53 AM »
been om deca just 3 weeks now, sbould i turn into superman in 3 weeks  ???

gained 3.5 kg so far and i will add another 5-6 kg over the next 3 weeks

FACT   8)

Well just from an observational standpoint. Your build does not reflect the use of real heavy compound multi joint movements in the gym. I can see you suffer from a light thin frame. Yet have you tried the approach of heavy compound movements? These exercises will beef you up really well if your motivated enough. Too many times a see guys going for the juice for their gaines before they find the right training program. I can tell by your build you lift weights, but your secondary muscle structure is thin and shows no sign of real trauma associated with heavy compound movements.
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Re: Arthur Jones...Bulletin 1...1970
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2017, 09:17:08 AM »
Well just from an observational standpoint. Your build does not reflect the use of real heavy compound multi joint movements in the gym. I can see you suffer from a light thin frame. Yet have you tried the approach of heavy compound movements? These exercises will beef you up really well if your motivated enough. Too many times a see guys going for the juice for their gaines before they find the right training program. I can tell by your build you lift weights, but your secondary muscle structure is thin and shows no sign of real trauma associated with heavy compound movements.

i am literally obsessed with keeping a tiny slim narrow wasitline

so the only heavy compounds i would do are bench, behind neck press and weighed chins and dips

i do them from time to time but the vast majority of my focus is shaping exercises

I dont wanna wiegh more than 175-180

now im sitting @ a buck 68

these turds nowadays are 50 pounds heavier than bbs from the 70-80s

but 25 of that is in their guts and the rest is on thier legs back and delts

FUCK DAT NOISE :-X :-X

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Re: Arthur Jones...Bulletin 1...1970
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2017, 09:35:08 AM »
i am literally obsessed with keeping a tiny slim narrow wasitline

so the only heavy compounds i would do are bench, behind neck press and weighed chins and dips

i do them from time to time but the vast majority of my focus is shaping exercises

I dont wanna wiegh more than 175-180

now im sitting @ a buck 68

these turds nowadays are 50 pounds heavier than bbs from the 70-80s

but 25 of that is in their guts and the rest is on thier legs back and delts

FUCK DAT NOISE :-X :-X


I had a girlfriend that didn't want to lift heavy because she was afraid it would make her look like a man. Is that what you are saying here?

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Re: Arthur Jones...Bulletin 1...1970
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2017, 09:39:57 AM »

I had a girlfriend that didn't want to lift heavy because she was afraid it would make her look like a man. Is that what you are saying here?

nope

its all about lines for me

V-torso with wide capped delts and a tiny narrow waist, full pecs and good arms

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Re: Arthur Jones...Bulletin 1...1970
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2017, 09:41:44 AM »

I had a girlfriend that didn't want to lift heavy because she was afraid it would make her look like a man. Is that what you are saying here?

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Re: Arthur Jones...Bulletin 1...1970
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2017, 09:46:07 AM »
;D ;D ;D ;D

its painfully obvious he has a wide thick waist

whats it measure cheif? I bet well over 35 inches

mine is 29 inches at 6 foot tall 😎

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Re: Arthur Jones...Bulletin 1...1970
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2017, 09:48:59 AM »
German volume training....clean and press, deads and squats for 3 months. Just going by your pics.

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Re: Arthur Jones...Bulletin 1...1970
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2017, 09:49:43 AM »
its painfully obvious he has a wide thick waist

whats it measure cheif? I bet well over 35 inches

mine is 29 inches at 6 foot tall 😎

From a BBing perspective my physique dominates you in every regard. Keep that in mind. :)

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Re: Arthur Jones...Bulletin 1...1970
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2017, 09:54:41 AM »
It must be from this style of training arnolds quote about casey viator came: if i would have to train that hard i would go back to austria and become a skier.
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Re: Arthur Jones...Bulletin 1...1970
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2017, 09:55:02 AM »
From a BBing perspective my physique dominates you in every regard. Keep that in mind. :)

I was talking to your bf

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Re: Arthur Jones...Bulletin 1...1970
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2017, 10:42:19 AM »
Fella with 29 waist got an awesome one. I had i really tiny one in competition. 28 at 5.9 and 200. But that was in 2004...lol
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Re: Arthur Jones...Bulletin 1...1970
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2017, 11:29:51 AM »
Fella with 29 waist got an awesome one. I had i really tiny one in competition. 28 at 5.9 and 200. But that was in 2004...lol

28 inch waist @ 2 bills is very impressive

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Re: Arthur Jones...Bulletin 1...1970
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2017, 04:37:58 PM »
Funny with HIT guys is that they go on and on about how high volume and frequency is so destructive, but brief sessions of stubbornly adding the lbs every workout till you pass out, puke, or lay twitching on the floor is somehow joint friendly and beneficial.

The methods of training run the entire spectrum of conflicting ideologies, and you have self made pros from all of them. What they all share is the genes, drug use, and passion for it. That's what it boils down to.

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Re: Arthur Jones...Bulletin 1...1970
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2017, 04:52:12 PM »
Funny with HIT guys is that they go on and on about how high volume and frequency is so destructive, but brief sessions of stubbornly adding the lbs every workout till you pass out, puke, or lay twitching on the floor is somehow joint friendly and beneficial.

The methods of training run the entire spectrum of conflicting ideologies, and you have self made pros from all of them. What they all share is the genes, drug use, and passion for it. That's what it boils down to.

did hit a long time

now i do volume

probably dont matter either way, coz....... ITS ALL DRUGS

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Re: Arthur Jones...Bulletin 1...1970
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2017, 05:40:13 PM »
been om deca just 3 weeks now, sbould i turn into superman in 3 weeks  ???

gained 3.5 kg so far and i will add another 5-6 kg over the next 3 weeks

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Weight yourself in pounds and you'll double your gains

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Re: Arthur Jones...Bulletin 1...1970
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2017, 09:57:09 PM »
Weight yourself in pounds and you'll double your gains

2.2 actually but what matters is pretty round muscles which i gots  8)

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Re: Arthur Jones...Bulletin 1...1970
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2017, 03:58:24 AM »
I just sold both 1 and 2 (originals) for $400.00, people are nuts, I started the bidding at $50.00.
Never read 'em, I dont do Nautilus principles, though I love their original line of equipment.

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Re: Arthur Jones...Bulletin 1...1970
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2017, 03:59:36 AM »
did hit a long time

now i do volume

probably dont matter either way, coz....... ITS ALL DRUGS

Was a big Jones, Mentzer, Leistner fan in the 1990s

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Re: Arthur Jones...Bulletin 1...1970
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2017, 04:04:35 AM »
Was a big Jones, Mentzer, Leistner fan in the 1990s

AJ circuit training was close to cross shit

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Re: Arthur Jones...Bulletin 1...1970
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2017, 07:08:22 AM »
Was a big Jones, Mentzer, Leistner fan in the 1990s
Dr. Ken Leistner's stuff has always been great. He seems to have always practiced HIT as it was meant to be. Ken was and still is one of the hardest balls to the wall trainers there is.