Alarm after Canada carfentanil bust...

[Matt]

No, no Im not....

You are getting more tedious with every post...

My posts are very long, but I try my best to be informative.  The thing is - people want quick, easy to digest content online.  Which makes sense, especially with so many of us logging on quickly from our phones or other devices.

I have made the determination that I basically can't help my posts being so long...I just have an affinity to write and write and write...so my goal is to try to be as concise as possible.  In other words, I want to try to not belabour the same points over and over again.  If I can master that, people will not feel ripped off reading my posts - even the very long ones.  I have found that people can sometimes tolerate long posts online - but even if they do, they will not tolerate repetition.

This thread is a very important one though - if this Carfentanyl powder was reserved for just opiates, that would be one thing.  But now it's getting into cocaine, and people are dying who had 0 expectation to be consuming an opiate...that is a problem, and I'm glad that Taffin started this thread.

[Simple Simon]

My posts are very long, but I try my best to be informative.  The thing is - people want quick, easy to digest content online.  Which makes sense, especially with so many of us logging on quickly from our phones or other devices.

I have made the determination that I basically can't help my posts being so long...I just have an affinity to write and write and write...so my goal is to try to be as concise as possible.  In other words, I want to try to not belabour the same points over and over again.  If I can master that, people will not feel ripped off reading my posts - even the very long ones.  I have found that people can sometimes tolerate long posts online - but even if they do, they will not tolerate repetition.

This thread is a very important one though - if this Carfentanyl powder was reserved for just opiates, that would be one thing.  But now it's getting into cocaine, and people are dying who had 0 expectation to be consuming an opiate...that is a problem, and I'm glad that Taffin started this thread.

yet you try your best to avoid giving it to them?

WTF is wrong with you?

[Powerlift66]

I have a bottle of Vicodin after some dental surgery. Worked a little bit on the pain, makes you drowsy, but I didn't see the attraction.
Probably good sleep inducers for those who have a hard time sleeping at night caused by pain injury.
The buzz off of 1 was non-existent. Ill just save them for emergency times like when my back/disc slips, as it does often. (DDD).

[spiro]

I have a bottle of Vicodin after some dental surgery. Worked a little bit on the pain, makes you drowsy, but I didn't see the attraction.
Probably good sleep inducers for those who have a hard time sleeping at night caused by pain injury.
The buzz off of 1 was non-existent. Ill just save them for emergency times like when my back/disc slips, as it does often. (DDD).

You didn't experience the opiate high.

[The Wizard of Truth]

I've seen more lives destroyed with alcohol then drugs. Not sure why drugs are so vilified and alcohol is left out of the equation.

I agree, but practically everyone drinks, well I don't, but the ratio of people who partake towards people who partake and ruin their lives would be higher with drugs I'd imagine. My best mate is killing himself with coke at the moment, another close friend is destroyed on heroin. Yet practically all my friends drink and most don't have an issue.

[Taffin]

My posts are very long, but I try my best to be informative.  The thing is - people want quick, easy to digest content online.  Which makes sense, especially with so many of us logging on quickly from our phones or other devices.

I have made the determination that I basically can't help my posts being so long...I just have an affinity to write and write and write...so my goal is to try to be as concise as possible.  In other words, I want to try to not belabour the same points over and over again.  If I can master that, people will not feel ripped off reading my posts - even the very long ones.  I have found that people can sometimes tolerate long posts online - but even if they do, they will not tolerate repetition.

This thread is a very important one though - if this Carfentanyl powder was reserved for just opiates, that would be one thing.  But now it's getting into cocaine, and people are dying who had 0 expectation to be consuming an opiate...that is a problem, and I'm glad that Taffin started this thread.

Not only that, but as someone on here pointed out, the pills that Prince had (Watson something or other?) had the other version of this stuff (fentanyl) in it apparently...  Now I'd assume someone as Rich as Prince could get legal scripts, so what does that mean?  That pharmacies are somehow stocking this adulterated stuff?  I mean, buying 'powder' off the street is one thing, you almost expect it to have cr4p in it, but pills from a pharmacy?  Scary business...

[SF1900]

You didn't experience the opiate high.

I've been on painkillers for different surgeries--never experienced a high. It was strange. Some of them just made me sleepy, but never felt high. 

[Ted SuperSet]

Great post.  I have spoken in depth about the relative non-toxicity of opiates both on here and on Facebook, but fake pills pressed from bulk Carfentanyl powder from China simply MUST be taken into consideration.

I would recommend ordering a chemical reagent test kit if you are a regular opiate user and can find one.  My friend has one, and I will have to ask him where he got it [EBAY?  No idea].  But this Carfentanyl issue is a major, major problem.  What kind of sick fuck presses fake pills that can KILL someone?  I guess it's better than fakes since it actually gets the person high, but the only person doing this should be someone who knows what they are doing.

As an example, somewhere out West in Calgary [I believe in Calgary] was pressing fake Oxycontin 80 pills that were actually oxycodone-containing pills - the only issue was that they were about 75% pure.  It was a way to sell Oxycontin 80 pills and get 33% more pills out of the deal, and thus more profit.  He was incarcerated, and then the next batch of fakes that came out resulted in some deaths.  Apparently in a prison interview he said "You should have just left me be.  Now see what's happening?"

The drug market is a potentially dangerous one, and I understand that awful things happen in it, but I cannot condone making fake Oxycontin pills from bulk Carfentanyl powder unless the person REALLY knows what they are doing - and I mean serious Walter White expertise.  People can die here - and people HAVE been dying.

There are fake Percocets out there too - my friend had some, and I called my other friend [the one with the test kit] to do the chemical reagent test, and they were made from Aspirin and some numbing agent that the test wasn't able to identify.  They did NOT contain either oxycodone nor acetaminophen - the two sole ingredients in Percocet, aside from any fillers that may be used.

The safest bet may be Hydromorphone, such as Hydromorph Contin by Purdue Pharmacy, as they are bead-containing capsules.  It's one thing to press fake pills - but how do you produce fake beads?

For anyone here who uses opiates - please be careful.  Use trusted sources, and try to ascertain that you have a real product, as best as you can.  As I mentioned, the fake Percocets also contained a numbing agent of some sort - Percocets do not make a person's mouth get numb, so it was a dead giveaway.  What's more ridiculous is that the person selling the fakes demanded getting paid for them, even after the test proved them to be fake.    Some people are so scummy.

As long as Carfentanyl is around, people will continue to die, so as I said, if you are an opiate user, please be careful.

All jokes aside watch  out bro you are playing with fire.
Here in Euroland just a small population is on those kind of meds because docs only prescribe these dangerous drugs in extreme cases like terminal stage cancer.

[Ted SuperSet]

Every mammal - literally every man, woman, child, cat, dog, pig, and cow - will become physically dependent on opiates if they use them for enough successive days in a row.  Be it eight days, five days, or possibly as little as three days.  That's right - one major weekend bender being high on opiates from dusk 'til dawn can get a person hooked on opiates.

It is what it is.

I am a human being.  I am a mammal.  I am no exception.

I think that one could realistically get away with certain opiate use protocols.  One possible example is four days on, four days off.  I believe that [depending on the quantity consumed] that one could get away with such a schedule.  I believe that another possible example would be Sunday and Wednesday evenings only.  In other words, if you only indulge on those two days of the week, you can probably get away with being high on opiates for a portion of the day - or even the entire day - and not become addicted.

But everyone is different, and as I said, it doesn't take long before a person becomes physically dependent.  So I would hope that people tread VERY carefully when it comes to this topic and not start using them just because they verify that what I have said about the relative non-toxicity of opiates compared to alcohol and other substances.

I believe that opiates are an amazing substance, and likely the only substance that I have the personal constitution to do - I have never tried cocaine, but have tried MDMA before, as well as marijuana and some other things, and virtually none of them work for me.  I found opiates to be heavenly, and it is virtually the only substance that works for me.  So while I will not knock it - I will not claim that I could not become addicted.  I believe I am just more responsible in terms of planning and that by my nature, I am not very indulgent.  It's just the way it goes with me.  I am not someone who needs a lot of stimulation to enjoy myself.  I would have no problem handling opiates responsibly, and had no problem doing so when I was prescribed opiates.  That being said, all mammals will become addicted to opiates if they are taken enough successive days in a row [as I stated above], and I am certainly no exception.

In the Rich Piana autopsy thread, dj181 said that Dorian became humbled when he took hallucinogenic drugs.  An opiate addiction may be something that can humble a person as well - but in my case, I don't need to be told that I can become addicted.  It can happen to anyone - even something as insignificant as a broken arm can put someone in a position that gets them addicted to opiates.  I am well aware of this, and it is not my intention to claim to be better than other people.    That being said, I will reiterate that I not a very indulgent person - so generally speaking, I am confident that I will never have a drug problem in my life - providing I am healthy and uninjured.  If I sustain an injury, this can change completely, and only time will tell.

Van_Bilderass addresses the subject starting at the link below, and dj181 adds to the discussion - where he said that Dorian was humbled after having taken hallucinogenics.  I believe many drugs have the potential to result in a humbling experience.  The part of the thread with the discussion starts here:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=638984.msg8922169#msg8922169

All jokes aside watch  out bro you are playing with fire.
Here in Euroland just a small population is on those kind of meds because docs only prescribe these dangerous drugs in extreme cases like terminal stage cancer.

[FREAKgeek]

Nitrous oxide at the dentist's office. That's good stuff.

[biff]

I have a bottle of Vicodin after some dental surgery. Worked a little bit on the pain, makes you drowsy, but I didn't see the attraction.
Probably good sleep inducers for those who have a hard time sleeping at night caused by pain injury.
The buzz off of 1 was non-existent. Ill just save them for emergency times like when my back/disc slips, as it does often. (DDD).

vicodin is for housewives who hate their life.  pop a few, couple of glasses of wine, they pass out for half the day.

oh, and then complain that housework is so overwhelming and they dont have the time for anything.

[NelsonMuntz]

the more I read Matts posts the more appealing fentanyl seems

he is essentially Patrick Bateman in total personality

I live by  the Centennial Botanical Conservatory in one of the many homes I own on Balmoral Street in Thunder Bay Ontario. My name is Matt Canning. I'm 37 years old. I believe in talking about myself and a balanced diet and rigorous exercise routine which keeps me at 170lbs at 5'9. In the morning if my face is a little puffy from the tears that fell to my pillow while crying myself to sleep after my mother yelled at me the night before I put on an ice pack  while doing doing bodyweight squats. I can do 100 now. After I remove the ice pack I post my first manifesto of the day on getbig waxing poetic about Art Atwood and how if he only listened to me he would have lived to be 42. In the shower I get a parsh, but I avoid masturbating because I am going to the clinic to check my sperm levels later today to see if I can produce my 8th child with another one of Thunder Bay's fine single welfare moms, Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine, which includes checking my bitcoin values, arguing on getbig about how Ronnie Coleman should have entered the Northern Ontario Strongman competition in which I sponsor, but as well I competed in the lightweight category at 5'9 and 170lbs. They put my picture in the newspaper I type to BeThere and post the article for the 100th time. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older, and with people who look older, well I fear for their health. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion, while I get into an online argument with Vince Goodrum about how Blacks have lower IQ's than whites and how I proved that by being the best white teaching assistant Lakhead University ever had before they wrongfully terminated me for getting caught masturbating in the genderless washroom writing my strong opinions on facebook. There is an idea of a Matt Canning. Is he a racist? Does he really want 7 more children with 12 strange women? Will he ever get to write for MD?. But there is no real me. Only an entity. Something illusory. And though I can troll all you getbiggers, and you can groan at your computer as I drone on and derail a thread by making the most non related topics all about myself, and maybe you can even sense that I am in fact a talented bodybuilding journalist, I simply cannot separate my crazy opinions from reality.

[Fortress]

Never even been drunk.

Nor have I smoked a single cigarette.

Weak is weak.

[WalterWhite]

I agree, but practically everyone drinks, well I don't, but the ratio of people who partake towards people who partake and ruin their lives would be higher with drugs I'd imagine. My best mate is killing himself with coke at the moment, another close friend is destroyed on heroin. Yet practically all my friends drink and most don't have an issue.

Sorry about your friends.    

Fentanyl laced heroin has taken many in my state...nasty stuff.

[Taffin]

he is essentially Patrick Bateman in total personality

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I live by  the Centennial Botanical Conservatory in one of the many homes I own on Balmoral Street in Thunder Bay Ontario. My name is Matt Canning. I'm 37 years old. I believe in talking about myself and a balanced diet and rigorous exercise routine which keeps me at 170lbs at 5'9. In the morning if my face is a little puffy from the tears that fell to my pillow while crying myself to sleep after my mother yelled at me the night before I put on an ice pack  while doing doing bodyweight squats. I can do 100 now. After I remove the ice pack I post my first manifesto of the day on getbig waxing poetic about Art Atwood and how if he only listened to me he would have lived to be 42. In the shower I get a parsh, but I avoid masturbating because I am going to the clinic to check my sperm levels later today to see if I can produce my 8th child with another one of Thunder Bay's fine single welfare moms, Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine, which includes checking my bitcoin values, arguing on getbig about how Ronnie Coleman should have entered the Northern Ontario Strongman competition in which I sponsor, but as well I competed in the lightweight category at 5'9 and 170lbs. They put my picture in the newspaper I type to BeThere and post the article for the 100th time. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older, and with people who look older, well I fear for their health. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion, while I get into an online argument with Vince Goodrum about how Blacks have lower IQ's than whites and how I proved that by being the best white teaching assistant Lakhead University ever had before they wrongfully terminated me for getting caught masturbating in the genderless washroom writing my strong opinions on facebook. There is an idea of a Matt Canning. Is he a racist? Does he really want 7 more children with 12 strange women? Will he ever get to write for MD?. But there is no real me. Only an entity. Something illusory. And though I can troll all you getbiggers, and you can groan at your computer as I drone on and derail a thread by making the most non related topics all about myself, and maybe you can even sense that I am in fact a talented bodybuilding journalist, I simply cannot separate my crazy opinions from reality.

First class.  And 2 (count 'em    ) legit LOL's for me highlighted.... Thanks Nelson 

[NelsonMuntz]

Never even been drunk.

Nor have I smoked a single cigarette.

Weak is weak.

I like you Fortress, you seem to be a good guy.

But your comments about "never smoking a cigarette, never been drunk, weak is weak" make me ponder what really is wrong with you because if you are so perfect, why have you lamented so many times about not being able to attract a mate(preferably with a hairy bush of course)?

My point is everyone of you guys/gals whom I have met in life that look down on others for addictions/weaknesses in this case typically and unknowingly have some kind of disorder/quirk themselves that makes them also look weak and/or annoy the fuck out of people close to them

Like seriously, if you are so perfect to lead such a pristine existence yet cannot seem to either attract and/or keep a female with such attractive self thoughts of inner strength because you have never been drunk, smoked a cigarette, and disdain weakness like some disdain disrespect I question that what you really think about yourself is not quite what reality is.

That's ok though, I myself wish I never picked up a drink or a cigarette because I had no clue that I was one of those chosen ones who would have issues with these substances.

[NelsonMuntz]

First class.  And 2 (count 'em    ) legit LOL's for me highlighted.... Thanks Nelson 

Your welcome.

I actually like Matt but he is the only one on here I know that can derail his own posts

[Matt]

Your welcome.

I actually like Matt but he is the only one on here I know that can derail his own posts

LOL!!! Great post. Found this in a completely unrelated search.

NelsonMuntz was hilarious. Sad he left Getbig.

[wes]

I talked at length today to two different guys in different places about their former drinking days and heroin usage................... ....we all compared notes,all were in different stages of sobriety,and all encouraged each other to stay clean before we parted.

It was like a mini A A meeting............ and fuck this drug here anybody that uses it might as well cancel their ticket.

[flipper5470]

I snapped my humerus about 10 years ago when I took a bad fall on some concrete.  They put a plate and about a half dozen screws in there to fix it it.  Surgery left me with some permanent nerve damage...the post operative pain was pretty severe.  Those nerves were constantly firing...it felt like lightning was coming out of my finger tips.  They gave me some Oxycodone to deal with it.  I quit using it and decided to gut it out after about a week because that drug made me feel really, really good.  It was too good....I had the sense that if I kept using it I could very easily get hooked on it.  So I dealt with the pain instead because it was likely more temporary than an addiction to opiates.

[Strongmanfan]

I snapped my humerus about 10 years ago when I took a bad fall on some concrete.  They put a plate and about a half dozen screws in there to fix it it.  Surgery left me with some permanent nerve damage...the post operative pain was pretty severe.  Those nerves were constantly firing...it felt like lightning was coming out of my finger tips.  They gave me some Oxycodone to deal with it.  I quit using it and decided to gut it out after about a week because that drug made me feel really, really good.  It was too good....I had the sense that if I kept using it I could very easily get hooked on it.  So I dealt with the pain instead because it was likely more temporary than an addiction to opiates.

Was there any withdrawal after a week?

[flipper5470]

No...I just knew if I kept taking it I had a really strong chance of getting hooked because the injury was bad enough I could have gotten scripts for quite awhile

[Matt]

No...I just knew if I kept taking it I had a really strong chance of getting hooked because the injury was bad enough I could have gotten scripts for quite awhile

Interesting. It's a great drug in that it's non-toxic [opioids...not Tylenol-containing Percocets, which are toxic], but physical addiction is a real risk. Good for you for stopping that before it started.

Ronnie Coleman is another matter...he is on something like 180mg oxycodone daily, and still claims to be in extreme pain, according to his documentary.

[DooM_]

All jokes aside watch  out bro you are playing with fire.
Here in Euroland just a small population is on those kind of meds because docs only prescribe these dangerous drugs in extreme cases like terminal stage cancer.

easy for those people to say who don't have to live in pain . . .