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Re: CBS fires Charlie Rose after Sexual Harassment Report
« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2017, 10:13:30 AM »
Then lets stick with the conviction list, it is more accurate as "alleged criminals and dirtbags" can be pretty subjective.

You can do that if you want.  I'll stick with the list I've been compiling for ten years.  Nothing subjective about people who have admitted to being a dirtbag. 

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Re: CBS fires Charlie Rose after Sexual Harassment Report
« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2017, 10:27:31 AM »
You can do that if you want.  I'll stick with the list I've been compiling for ten years.  Nothing subjective about people who have admitted to being a dirtbag. 

except your personal bias of not reporting on Republicans with the same determination as you may Democrats, determining what is worthy of making the list... it's not necessarily you doing it on purpose.. its just bias. I prefer a list with hard cold facts like convictions. And from a source that isn't a declared Republican supporter, democratic detractor

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Re: CBS fires Charlie Rose after Sexual Harassment Report
« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2017, 10:46:59 AM »
except your personal bias of not reporting on Republicans with the same determination as you may Democrats, determining what is worthy of making the list... it's not necessarily you doing it on purpose.. its just bias. I prefer a list with hard cold facts like convictions. And from a source that isn't a declared Republican supporter, democratic detractor

I will respectfully call that BS.  It's not personal bias.  I provide, as Paul Harvey would say, the rest of the story.  If you look at the MSM (not including Fox News), you'd think there is this plethora of dirty Republicans and that Democrats are paragons of virtue.  That's not true.  I've shown this with issues like hate speech, violence/fascism, censorship, etc.  It's not "equal." 

But you probably don't even think there is a pervasive liberal bias in the MSM.  That's why you can latch on to a list you didn't even read.  That's confirmation bias. 

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Re: CBS fires Charlie Rose after Sexual Harassment Report
« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2017, 05:21:37 PM »
I will respectfully call that BS.  It's not personal bias.  I provide, as Paul Harvey would say, the rest of the story.  If you look at the MSM (not including Fox News), you'd think there is this plethora of dirty Republicans and that Democrats are paragons of virtue.  That's not true.  I've shown this with issues like hate speech, violence/fascism, censorship, etc.  It's not "equal." 

But you probably don't even think there is a pervasive liberal bias in the MSM.  That's why you can latch on to a list you didn't even read.  That's confirmation bias. 


Fake cop w a fake leftist agenda.

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Re: CBS fires Charlie Rose after Sexual Harassment Report
« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2017, 06:42:10 PM »
I will respectfully call that BS.  It's not personal bias.  I provide, as Paul Harvey would say, the rest of the story.  If you look at the MSM (not including Fox News), you'd think there is this plethora of dirty Republicans and that Democrats are paragons of virtue.  That's not true.  I've shown this with issues like hate speech, violence/fascism, censorship, etc.  It's not "equal." 

But you probably don't even think there is a pervasive liberal bias in the MSM.  That's why you can latch on to a list you didn't even read.  That's confirmation bias. 

Whatever..

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Re: CBS fires Charlie Rose after Sexual Harassment Report
« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2017, 06:43:07 PM »


Fake cop w a fake leftist agenda.

Shhhh ...Men are talking here...

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Re: CBS fires Charlie Rose after Sexual Harassment Report
« Reply #31 on: November 23, 2017, 06:47:43 PM »

Mcgreevy ?  Obama ?   

McGreevy wasn't an anti gay fundie and Obama is not gay (no matter how much you really wish he was)


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Re: CBS fires Charlie Rose after Sexual Harassment Report
« Reply #32 on: November 23, 2017, 06:59:51 PM »
After studying more than 60 scandals over the past 20 years involving all politicians or major candidates for city mayor and above—many involved crimes, others just allegations, but all wound up as tabloid fodder—some conclusions can be reached.
• The number of sex scandals has increased dramatically over the past few decades, thanks to technology, new press standards, and a post-Clinton belief that everything is fair game.


• Republicans have more scandals (34 to 29), but Democrats have bigger ones, based on our methodology (13 out of the top 20).
• Democrats tend to have more problems with harassment, staffers, and underage girls; Republicans tend to have more problems with prostitutes, hypocrisy, and underage boys.
To offer some clarity, we’ve broken the scandals into categories, and graded them Cook Report-style. We also ranked all sex scandals overall, using a methodology that accounted for whether a crime was committed, versus inappropriate behavior; whether the charges were proven, versus alleged; the level of office held; and whether the incident involved children, staff, a cover-up or hypocrisy.

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Re: CBS fires Charlie Rose after Sexual Harassment Report
« Reply #33 on: November 23, 2017, 07:01:58 PM »
another source.. Sex scandals.. lets count em up

1980–1989[edit]
Donald "Buz" Lukens Representative (R-OH) Convicted of Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor for having sex with a 16 yr old girl. He was sentenced to 30 days in jail and fined $500. (1989)[45]
Robert Bauman, Representative (R-MD), was charged with attempting to solicit sex from a 16-year-old male prostitute.[46] Upon completing an alcoholism rehabilitation program, the charges were dropped. Bauman apologized to voters for his indiscretions but was defeated for re-election.[47] (1980)
Jon Hinson, Representative (R-MS), resigned after being charged with attempted sodomy for performing oral sex on a male employee of the Library of Congress.[48] (1981)
Thomas Evans, Representative (R-DE), went golfing in Florida with nude model and lobbyist Paula Parkinson, who later suggested her lobbying techniques had been "unusually tactile".[49] Though Evans apologized for any appearance of impropriety, he was voted out of office in 1982. Future Vice-President Dan Quayle and Congressman Tom Railsback went on the golf trip too but were not implicated in the sex.[50] Marilyn Quayle said it was common knowledge that her husband would "rather play golf than have sex any day."[51] (1981)
John Schmitz, Representative (R-CA), leader of the ultra-conservative John Birch Society,[52] admitted to having a second family, but refused to accept or support the two children he produced who became wards of the state. (1982)[53]
Dan Crane, Representative, (R-IL), was censured July 20, 1983, in the Congressional Page sex scandal for having sex with a young congressional page. (1983)[54]
Gerry Studds, Representative (D-MA), was censured July 20, 1983, in the Congressional Page sex scandal for having sex with a young congressional staffer. (1983)[54]
Gary Hart, Senator (D-CO): while seeking the Democratic nomination for president, Hart was photographed with model Donna Rice on a boat named 'Monkey Business' during a trip to the Bahamas. His popularity plummeted and he soon dropped out. (1987)[55]
Ernie Konnyu, Representative (R-CA), Konnyu was accused of sexual harassment. He had asked a female aide to move a name tag she was wearing because it was drawing attention to her breasts, about which he later said: "She is not exactly heavily stacked, OK?" In another instance, he reportedly touched the knee of lobbyist Polly Minor during lunch, which caused a scene. GOP leaders were unhappy with Konnyu's temperament anyway, so they found Stanford professor Tom Campbell who ousted Konnyu the following June.[56][57] (1987)
Jim Bates, Representative (D-CA), made sexual advances toward female staffers.[58] (1988)
Edward Kennedy, Senator (D-MA), was often portrayed scandalously in gossip columns and tabloids, owing to numerous and barely concealed extramarital affairs plus notorious public incidents, including public sex in 1985 and 1987 at La Brasserie restaurant in Washington D.C.[59] (1980s)
Barney Frank, Representative (D-MA), was reprimanded by the House for fixing 33 parking tickets for Steve Gobie, a male escort who lived with Frank and claimed to have conducted an escort service from Frank's apartment without his knowledge. (1989)[60]
Gus Savage, Representative (D-IL), was accused of trying to force himself on a female Peace Corps worker while in Zaire.[61] No action was taken by the House Ethics Committee after he apologized to her. (1989)[62]
1990–1999[edit]
Arlan Stangeland (R-MN) U.S. House of Representatives (1977 – 1991). He lost his campaign for re-election in 1990, largely because of a scandal, having made several hundred long-distance phone calls on his House credit card to a female lobbyist from Virginia. He admitted that he had made the calls, but denied having a romantic relationship with the woman. After his loss he subsequently retired from politics.(1990)[63][64]
Donald "Buz" Lukens Representative (R-OH), resigned before facing an investigation that he fondled a female Washington elevator operator.[65] (1990)
Austin J. Murphy, Representative (D-PA), acknowledged fathering a child out of wedlock after a political opponent came forward with video of Murphy leaving the home of his mistress.[66] (1990)
Charles S. Robb Senator (D-VA) while married to Lynda Bird Johnson, Robb acknowledged drinking champagne and having a nude massage with Miss Virginia Tai Collins denying an affair, though he admitted an "indiscreet friendship." Collins claimed it was an 18-month affair. Soon after, Collins appeared nude in Playboy.[67] (1991)
Brock Adams, Senator (D-WA), was accused by eight women of committing various acts of sexual misconduct, ranging from sexual harassment to rape.[68] Adams denied the accusations, there was no criminal prosecution, and he did not run for re-election.[69] (1992)
Robert Packwood, Senator (R-OR), resigned his office after 29 women came forward with claims of sexual harassment, abuse, and assaults. His denials of any wrongdoing were eventually contradicted by his own diaries boasting of his sexual conquests. (1995)[70]
Ken Calvert, Representative (R-CA), was involved with a prostitute, but claimed that no money was involved, and he was not arrested.[71] Calvert apologized: "My conduct that evening was inappropriate....it violated the values of the person I strive to be."[71] (1993)
Helen Chenoweth-Hage, Representative (R-ID), called for the resignation of Bill Clinton, and then admitted in 1998 to having had a six-year affair with a married rancher before she entered government.[72] Chenoweth said: "Fourteen years ago, when I was a private citizen and a single woman, I was involved in a relationship that I came to regret, that I'm not proud of....I only wish I could have learned the lessons sooner."[73] (1998)
Bob Barr, Representative (R-GA), had an affair while married to his second wife. Barr was the first lawmaker in either chamber to call for Clinton's resignation due to the Lewinsky scandal. Barr lost a primary challenge less than three years after the impeachment proceedings. (1999)[74]
Dan Burton, Representative (R-IN): In 1995 speaking of the then-recent affairs of Republican Robert Packwood and the unfolding affair of Democrat Bill Clinton Burton stated "No one, regardless of what party they serve, no one, regardless of what branch of government they serve, should be allowed to get away with these alleged sexual improprieties...." In 1998 Vanity Fair printed an article detailing an affair which Burton himself had in 1983 which produced a child. Before publication Burton admitted to fathering a son with a former state employee.[75][76]
Robert Livingston, Representative (R-LA), called for the resignation of Bill Clinton and when his own extramarital affairs were leaked, his wife urged him to resign and urge Clinton to do likewise. (1998)[77][78]
Newt Gingrich, Representative (R-GA) and leader of the Republican Revolution of 1994,[79] resigned from the House after admitting in 1998 to having had an affair with a staffer while he was married to his second wife, and at the same time he was leading the impeachment of Bill Clinton for perjury regarding an affair with his intern Monica Lewinsky. (1998)[80][81]
Henry Hyde, Representative (R-IL): in 1998, Salon.com stated that from 1965 to 1969 (before Hyde won federal office), he conducted an extramarital sexual affair with a married woman who had three children from her marriage. Hyde, who was 41 years old and married when the affair occurred, admitted to the affair in 1998, describing the relationship as a "youthful indiscretion".The revelation of this affair took place as Hyde was spearheading the impeachment hearings of President Bill Clinton over the Monica Lewinsky scandal.[82]
Pete Domenici Senator (R-NM) voted for the impeachment of President Bill Clinton in 1998 after his affair with Monica Lewinsky. In 2013 he confessed that in 1978 he fathered a son, Adam Laxalt, outside of his marriage; Adam Laxalt's mother is Michelle Laxalt, the daughter of Senator Paul Laxalt and a prominent Republican lobbyist.[83][84]
Bill Clinton, President (D) Revelations that White House intern Monica Lewinsky had oral sex with Clinton in the Oval Office leading him to famously declare on TV on January 26, 1998, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky." The scandal led to impeachment by the House for perjury, for lying about the affair under oath. He was acquitted in the Senate with 55 senators voting Not Guilty to 45 senators voting Guilty (falling 22 votes short of the two-thirds necessary to convict). (1998)[85][86] In a plea bargain to avoid another trial alleging charges of impeding the initial investigation, Clinton's law license was suspended by the state of Arkansas for five years.[87]
Mel Reynolds, Representative (D-IL), resigned from Congress in 1995 after a conviction for statutory rape. In August 1994, he was indicted for sexual assault and criminal sexual abuse for engaging in a sexual relationship with a 16-year-old campaign volunteer that began during the 1992 campaign.[88] Despite the charges, he continued his campaign and was re-elected that November; he had no opposition.[88] Reynolds initially denied the charges, which he claimed were racially motivated. On August 22, 1995, he was convicted on 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography. He resigned his seat on October 1 of that year.[89]
2000–2009[edit]
Gary Condit, Representative (D-CA): his affair with 23-year-old intern Chandra Levy was exposed after Levy disappeared. Her body was found a year later and in 2008, an illegal immigrant with no relation to Condit was charged with her murder.[90] Condit had often demanded that Bill Clinton "come clean" about his affair with Monica Lewinsky. (2001)[91]
Ed Schrock, Representative (R-VA), announced he would abort his 2004 attempt for a third term in Congress after allegedly being caught on tape soliciting sex from a male prostitute after having aggressively opposed various gay-rights issues in Congress, such as same-sex marriage and gays in the military.[92]
Strom Thurmond, Senator (R-SC), noted segregationist, fathered a child, Essie Mae Washington-Williams, with a 15-year-old African American in 1925 who was employed by the Thurmond family. (2003)[93]
Jim McGreevey, Governor (D-NJ), elected in 2002. In early 2002, McGreevey was criticized for appointing his secret lover, Israeli national Golan Cipel, as homeland security adviser even though Cipel lacked experience or other qualifications for the position. Cipel resigned but threats from his lawyers about sexual harassment lawsuits prompted McGreevey to announce, on August 12, 2004, that he was gay and would resign the governorship, effective November 15, 2004. This made McGreevey the first openly gay governor in United States history. Subsequently, McGreevey separated with his then wife Dina Matos McGreevey in late 2005. Shortly afterward McGreevey and Australian-American executive Mark O'Donnell began a relationship. (2004)[94]
Steven C. LaTourette, Representative (R-OH), was elected in 1994 and had voted to impeach Bill Clinton for the Lewinsky scandal. He himself had a long-term affair with his chief of staff, Jennifer Laptook, while he was married. He married Laptook after his divorce. (2003)[95]
David Dreier, Representative (R-CA), voted against a number of gay rights proposals, but was outed concerning his relationship with his chief of staff. (2004)[96] He is featured in the 2009 documentary film Outrage.
Don Sherwood, Representative (R-PA), failed to win re-election following revelations of a five-year extramarital affair with Cynthia Ore, who accused him of physically abusing her. (2004)[97]
Mark Foley, Representative (R-FL), resigned his House seat when accused of sending sexually explicit e-mails to teenage male congressional pages. He was replaced by Tim Mahoney. (2006)[98]
David Vitter, Senator (R-LA), took over the House seat of former Congressman Robert Livingston, who resigned in 1999 following revelations of an extramarital affair. At the time, Vitter stated, "I think Livingston's stepping down makes a very powerful argument that (Bill) Clinton should resign as well...."[99] Vitter's name was then discovered in the address book of the Deborah Jeane Palfrey (the "D.C. Madam"). (2007)[100]
Randall L. Tobias (R), Deputy Secretary of State and former "AIDS Czar" appointed by George W. Bush, stated that U.S. funds should be denied to countries that permitted prostitution.[101] He resigned on April 27, 2007, after confirming that he had been a customer of Deborah Jeane Palfrey (the "D.C. Madam").[102]
Larry Craig (R-ID), a U.S. Senator for 18 years, was arrested on June 11, 2007 and charged with lewd conduct arising from his behavior in a men's restroom at the Minneapolis–Saint Paul International Airport.[103][104][105] Craig pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of disorderly conduct; he later unsuccessfully sought to withdraw his guilty plea.[106][107][108] He announced his resignation three months later on September 1, 2007, but changed his mind again, although he did not seek re-election in 2008. (2007) [109][110][111][112][113][114][115]
Tim Mahoney, Representative (D-FL), was elected to the seat of Mark Foley, who had resigned following sexual harassment charges from his congressional interns. Mahoney ran on a campaign promise to make "a world that is safer, more moral". In October 2008, he admitted he placed his mistress on his staff and then fired her, saying, "You work at my pleasure." He then admitted to multiple other affairs.[116]
Vito Fossella, Representative (R-NY), was arrested for drunken driving. Under questioning, the married Congressman and father of three admitted to an affair with Laura Fay that produced a daughter. (2008)[117]
John Edwards, Senator (D-NC), admitted to an extramarital affair with actress and film producer Rielle Hunter, which produced a child, seriously undercutting his 2008 presidential campaign.[118] (see federal political scandals)
John Ensign, Senator (R-NV), resigned his position as chairman of the Senate Republican Policy Committee on June 16, 2009, after admitting he had an affair with the wife of a close friend, both of whom were working on his campaign.[119] Under investigation, he then resigned his Senate seat 20 months early in 2011[120] In 1998, Senator Ensign had called for President Bill Clinton (D) to resign after admitting to sexual acts with Monica Lewinsky. (2009)[121]
Chip Pickering, Representative (R-MS): on July 16, 2009, it was announced that his wife had filed an alienation of affection lawsuit against a woman with whom Chip allegedly had an affair.[122] The lawsuit claimed the adulterous relationship ruined the Pickerings' marriage and his political career. (2009)[123]
2010–2017[edit]
Eric Massa, Representative (D-NY), resigned to avoid an ethics investigation into his admitted groping and tickling of multiple male staffers. He later stated on Fox News, "not only did I grope [a staffer], I tickled him until he couldn't breathe," (2010)[124][125]
Mark Souder, Representative (R-IN), a staunch advocate of abstinence and family values,[126][127] resigned to avoid an ethics investigation into his admitted extramarital affair with a female staffer. (2010)[128][129][130]
Chris Lee, Representative (R-NY), resigned hours after a news report that he had sent a shirtless picture of himself flexing his muscles to a woman via Craigslist, along with flirtatious e-mails.[131] He did not rely on a pseudonym or a false e-mail address but used his official Congressional e-mail for all communication. Lee said: "I regret the harm that my actions have caused my family, my staff and my constituents.... I have made profound mistakes and I promise to work as hard as I can to seek their forgiveness.”[132] (2011)
Anthony Weiner, Representative (D-NY), admitted to sending sexually explicit photos of himself to several women through his Twitter account.[133] He resigned from Congress on June 16, 2011,[134] but kept sexting after his resignation.[135] (2011)
Scott DesJarlais, Representative (R-TN), admitted under oath to at least six affairs, including two affairs with his patients and staffers while he was a physician at Grandview Medical Center in Jasper, TN. Additionally, while running on a pro-life platform, DesJarlais made his ex-wife have two abortions, and tried to persuade a mistress who was his patient, into an abortion as well.[136][137][138]
David Wu, Representative (D-OR), resigned from the House of Representatives after being accused of making unwanted sexual advances toward a fundraiser's daughter. July 26, 2011.[139][140]
Herman Cain (R) 2012 Republican presidential candidate, was accused of sexual harassment by several women. These accusations eventually caused him to suspend his run for the presidential nomination (2012)[141][142] including Sharon Bialek, Karen Kraushaar, and having a 13-year affair with Ginger White.[143][144] Donna Donella also reported possible inappropriate behavior.[145][146][147]
Vance McAllister, Representative (R-LA), who is married and the father of five, was caught on surveillance camera deeply kissing a married staffer. Several prominent Republicans asked McAllister to resign. In response, he stated he would not seek re-election in 2016.[148][149] McCallister said: "There's no doubt I've fallen short and I'm asking for forgiveness. I’m asking for forgiveness from God, my wife, my kids, my staff, and my constituents who elected me to serve". (2014)[150]
Dennis Hastert, former Speaker of the United States House of Representatives (R-IL), pled guilty to structuring bank withdrawals in order to conceal deliberately-unspecified misconduct by Hastert against an unnamed individual years earlier.[151] At a sentencing hearing in October 2015, Hastert admitted that he had sexually abused boys while he worked as a high school wrestling coach decades earlier. (2015)[152][153]
Donald Trump (R), the 45th President of the United States, was accused of sexual assault by 13 women during the 2016 election and denied it, along with the release of a 2005 video by The Washington Post.[154] The video, in which Trump described, in a private conversation, hypothetical consensual lewd sexual encounters of a celebrity, was released two days before a debate between Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee and Trump, the Republican nominee himself. At the televised debate, Trump dismissed the video as "locker room talk."[155]
Tim Murphy, Representative (R-PA), had an extramarital affair with Shannon Edwards, a 32-year-old forensic psychologist. The pro-life Murphy asked Edwards to have an abortion after she became pregnant. The information was revealed as part of Murphy's divorce proceedings and published by the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette after it fought in Pennsylvania state court to have the documents unsealed. Murphy resigned his seat in Congress.
Roy Moore, U.S. Senate candidate in Alabama (R) has been accused by nine women[156] of sexual misconduct with them when they were in their teens.[157]
Al Franken, Senator (D-MN), was accused by radio newscaster, Leeann Tweeden, of forcibly kissing her and later groping her without consent during a U.S.O. tour in 2006. Tweeden produced photo evidence of the grope, taken by Franken when Tweeden was asleep. Franken admitted to the allegations and apologized for his actions.[158]
Joe Barton, Representative (R-TX) acknowledged he took nude photos of himself in 2015, following their leak in November 2017.[159]

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Re: CBS fires Charlie Rose after Sexual Harassment Report
« Reply #35 on: November 23, 2017, 07:05:29 PM »
I haven't gone through either list other than a cursory glance. I'd be willing to bet both sides numbers are ridiculous and an embarrassment, and that if one party as a few more than the other, it's irrelevant. If one has an overwhelming number, lets talk about it.   

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Re: CBS fires Charlie Rose after Sexual Harassment Report
« Reply #36 on: November 23, 2017, 08:20:10 PM »
Then lets stick with the conviction list, it is more accurate as "alleged criminals and dirtbags" can be pretty subjective.

Bruh.  All you did was post an enormous quote from a link you still haven't read (by your own admission).  It's not a "conviction list."  Like this one:

"Herman Cain (R) 2012 Republican presidential candidate, was accused of sexual harassment by several women. These accusations eventually caused him to suspend his run for the presidential nomination (2012)[141][142] including Sharon Bialek, Karen Kraushaar, and having a 13-year affair with Ginger White."

But whatever.  If you ever want to have a meaningful discussion, you should put aside your confirmation bias, look at alternative sources, and THEN we can talk.   :)

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Re: CBS fires Charlie Rose after Sexual Harassment Report
« Reply #37 on: November 23, 2017, 08:48:45 PM »
Bruh.  All you did was post an enormous quote from a link you still haven't read (by your own admission).  It's not a "conviction list."  Like this one:

"Herman Cain (R) 2012 Republican presidential candidate, was accused of sexual harassment by several women. These accusations eventually caused him to suspend his run for the presidential nomination (2012)[141][142] including Sharon Bialek, Karen Kraushaar, and having a 13-year affair with Ginger White."

But whatever.  If you ever want to have a meaningful discussion, you should put aside your confirmation bias, look at alternative sources, and THEN we can talk.   :)


Which do you want? I posted a Conviction ONLY list and you said that wasn't good enough. So I posted a Sex scandal list and a scandal list in general. If you want to stick to conviction only, I'm good with that but the Republican conviction rate is higher.. not much higher and I will even say it is such a small difference it says nothing about who is the worst party... my position is and has always been they are equally bad even though republicans have more convictions. You tell me the criteria you want to use.. we'll go from there

I personally am not looking at this conversation as adversarial, I'm really curious as to if one party is truly worse than the other when it comes to corruption, law breaking and scandals. Your self made list is one source, other sources seem to indicate they are about equal. 

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Re: CBS fires Charlie Rose after Sexual Harassment Report
« Reply #38 on: November 27, 2017, 01:05:27 PM »

Which do you want? I posted a Conviction ONLY list and you said that wasn't good enough. So I posted a Sex scandal list and a scandal list in general. If you want to stick to conviction only, I'm good with that but the Republican conviction rate is higher.. not much higher and I will even say it is such a small difference it says nothing about who is the worst party... my position is and has always been they are equally bad even though republicans have more convictions. You tell me the criteria you want to use.. we'll go from there

I personally am not looking at this conversation as adversarial, I'm really curious as to if one party is truly worse than the other when it comes to corruption, law breaking and scandals. Your self made list is one source, other sources seem to indicate they are about equal. 

As I mentioned, people convicted of crimes, people accused of misconduct, and overall dirtbags at the federal and state level.  I'm talking about presidents, members of Congress, governors, mayors, and high ranking state officials. It's sort of hair splitting, because the numbers on both sides are unacceptable, but they're not equal.  Look at the number of governors who have been convicted of crimes and/or engaged in provable misconduct.  I could be wrong, but I don't think those numbers are equal.   

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Re: CBS fires Charlie Rose after Sexual Harassment Report
« Reply #39 on: November 27, 2017, 02:09:04 PM »
I went back to 1990 for Governors and Lt. Governors convicted.

Gov Tucker (D) 1996
Gov Symington (R) 1997
Gov Edwards (D) 2000
Gov Taft (R) 2005
Gov Walters (D) 1993
Gov DiPrete (R) 1998
Lt. Gov Burns (D) 1995
Gov Moore (R) 1990
Gov Hunt (R)
Gov Bentley (R) 2017
Gov Siegleman (D) 2006
Lt. Gov Darr (R) 2014
Gov Wilson (D) 2012
Gov Easley (D) 2010
Lt. Gov Green (D) 1997
Lt. Gov Ard (R) 2011
Gov Rowland (R) 2004
Gov Blagjevich (D) 2010
Gov Ryan (R) 2006

9 Democrats

10 Republicans