ND and HULKSTER star in BROKENRECORD MOUNTAIN, Part MCXV

[LuciusFox]

Out of Ronnie's 8 wins just 2 were perfect scores and all of Yates' were with perfect scores 

 It is irrelevant. A win is a win, whether it's by an inch or mile. Besides, we both know neither Dorian nor Ronnie deserved perfect scores

[FREAKgeek]

Out of Ronnie's 8 wins just 2 were perfect scores and all of Yates' were with perfect scores 

funny cause yates was far from perfect

[Hulkster]

I have already showed ad nausem that in the past scores for the top spots were normalized and are therefore meaningless at face value. Only their relative positions given by the values have ANY MERIT whatsoever.

eg. there have been several Mr. O's where the top three scored 5, 10 and 15 respectively IN EACH round, while others below had real scores, like 13, 14, 54 etc.

But then again, ND has never paid attention to stuff like this...

he just goes on giving false arguments about scoring to bolster his hero Yates' declining image without actually looking at what the numbers mean or their relevance..

[LuciusFox]

I have already showed ad nausem that in the past scores for the top spots were normalized and are therefore meaningless at face value. Only their relative positions given by the values have ANY MERIT whatsoever.

eg. there have been several Mr. O's where the top three scored 5, 10 and 15 respectively IN EACH round, while others below had real scores, like 13, 14, 54 etc.

But then again, ND has never paid attention to stuff like this...

he just goes on giving false arguments about scoring to bolster his hero Yates' declining image without actually looking at what the numbers mean or their relevance..

 ND is a delusional guy with a massive shrine of Dorian.

[Hulkster]

ND is a delusional guy with a massive shrine of Dorian.

lol - the guy worships the following physiques:

Dorian Yates (260 pound mass monster, blocky taper, gh gut)

Steve Revees and Frank Zane (190 pound classical physiques, classical tapers, no gut)

Makes a whole lot of sense doesn't it

[LuciusFox]

lol - the guy worships the following physiques:

Dorian Yates (260 pound mass monster, blocky taper, gh gut)

Steve Revees and Frank Zane (190 pound classical physiques, classical tapers, no gut)

Makes a whole lot of sense doesn't it

 It is the strangest bodybuilding dichotomy I have ever seen.

[MisterMagoo]

basically nd worships not-ronnie. as long as it's someone who could be said to have been better than ronnie at some point in his career, nd loves the guy.

[Hulkster]

stranger than "Dorian Yates has better overall arms than Ronnie Coleman?"

for me, that is the single most retarded thing I have ever read on Getbig.

And its all thanks to ND!

[Hulkster]

basically nd worships not-ronnie. as long as it's someone who could be said to have been better than ronnie at some point in his career, nd loves the guy.

and yet he claims he is not biased

[LuciusFox]

stranger than "Dorian Yates has better overall arms than Ronnie Coleman?"

for me, that is the single most retarded thing I have ever read on Getbig.

And its all thanks to ND!

 That had to be the worst thing ND has ever said or done, provided that he has not commited murder or rape.

[Hulkster]

That had to be the worst thing ND has ever said or done, provided that he has not commited murder or rape.

it was at that point that I realized that ND was clinically insane and the ultimate Anti-Ronnie fan.

Those ironagers..

[LuciusFox]

it was at that point that I realized that ND was clinically insane and the ultimate Anti-Ronnie fan.

Those ironagers..

 I hear that the Ironage site is kind of scary

[Tigerman]

it was at that point that I realized that ND was clinically insane and the ultimate Anti-Ronnie fan.

Those ironagers..

An ironager worshipping Dorian? mhmhmhmm.....

[Hulkster]

An ironager worshipping Dorian? mhmhmhmm.....

look no farther than ND.

Of course, he claims not to be an ironager, yet jerks off to Steve Reeve pics ..

and of course, it was over on the ironage board that he proclaimed Dorian to be "the last great Mr. Olympia".

I am registered there purely for amusement..

[NarcissisticDeity]

See I usually try and stay out of these debates but you people tend to misquote me and I have to come school the children

Dorian isn't my hero , I wanted Flex Wheeler to beat him the Mr Olympia , I always felt Flex 1993 ASC is what bodybuilding is really about , Flex didn't win I'm mearly commenting on what happened not what I wanted to happen '

And you think my comments are retarded yet lets look at some of yours , Dorian shouldn't have won the 1994 Mr Olympia , this is basing it on a couple of pictures lol and not one single competitor said anything about his win lol you feel Shawn should have won yet he was actually trailing Levrone going into the posing round , but Hulkster basing Shawn should have won on a few pictures lol

Another retarded Hulkster statement Yates is overated bodybuilder of all time   oh boy , 6 Olympia wins with straight firsts , never placed lower than 2nd in a Pro contest , has only been beaten by 2 people , won the muscularity round in his first Mr Olympia contest to the greatest Mr Olympia ever , has a 88% win ratio , completed domiated the feild in 93 & 95 , set a new standard that others were trying to catch up to for years , set the bar for size & conditioning , faced a much higher quaility feild than most Mr Olympias , etc

So before you cast stones make sure you're not standing in your glass house .

[Croatch]

He pumped something into his calves for sure.  What a joke.  My calves are more impressive and they're natural.  Best thing about calves...you can pump all the gear you want and they'll never change too much.
Natural since 94', you love it 240

[Hulkster]

the fact that Yates won 6 olympia titles looks like he did shows that he is overrated.


Overrated = getting more than you deserve based on the merits of your physique.

And Yates, with 6 olympia titles, is the best (worst?) example of being overrated in bodybuilding.

[NarcissisticDeity]

the fact that Yates won 6 olympia titles looks like he did shows that he is overrated.


Overrated = getting more than you deserve based on the merits of your physique.

And Yates, with 6 olympia titles, is the best (worst?) example of being overrated in bodybuilding.

See this is where your lack of knowlege about bodybuilding shines through , this statement solidifies your bias

Lets see out of his 8 Olympia wins just 2 have been with a perfect score ( Dorian all 6 ) , 4 have been close calls ( 4 points or less ) and the rest were a small lead , his first Mr Olympia he was dead last ( Dorian 2nd )  , over the course of Ronnie's career he has been beaten by  Mauro Sarni , Ray McNeil , Milos Sarcev , Jim Quinn , David Dearth ,Flex Wheeler , Vince Taylor , Nasser El Sonbaty , Andreas Munzer ,
Pavol Jablonicky , Shawn Ray , Paul Dillett , Porter Cottrell , Chris
Cormier , Charles Clairmonte , Sonny Schmidt , Alq Gurley , Aaron
Baker , Thierry Pastel , Dorian Yates , Jean Pierre Fux , Michael
Francois , Gunter Schlierkamp , Kevin Levrone ( Dorian by just 2 , Momo & Haney ) Ronnie's win percentage is just 57% ( Dorian 88% ) lost a Pro contest while a Mr Olympia , has placed as low as dead last in a contest ( Dorian never finshed lower than 2nd ) faced decent opposition ( Yates among the best )  and now in all honesty who is overated? 

[LuciusFox]

See this is where your lack of knowlege about bodybuilding shines through , this statement solidifies your bias

Lets see out of his 8 Olympia wins just 2 have been with a perfect score ( Dorian all 6 ) , 4 have been close calls ( 4 points or less ) and the rest were a small lead , his first Mr Olympia he was dead last ( Dorian 2nd )  , over the course of Ronnie's career he has been beaten by  Mauro Sarni , Ray McNeil , Milos Sarcev , Jim Quinn , David Dearth ,Flex Wheeler , Vince Taylor , Nasser El Sonbaty , Andreas Munzer ,
Pavol Jablonicky , Shawn Ray , Paul Dillett , Porter Cottrell , Chris
Cormier , Charles Clairmonte , Sonny Schmidt , Alq Gurley , Aaron
Baker , Thierry Pastel , Dorian Yates , Jean Pierre Fux , Michael
Francois , Gunter Schlierkamp , Kevin Levrone ( Dorian by just 2 , Momo & Haney ) Ronnie's win percentage is just 57% ( Dorian 88% ) lost a Pro contest while a Mr Olympia , has placed as low as dead last in a contest ( Dorian never finshed lower than 2nd ) faced decent opposition ( Yates among the best )  and now in all honesty who is overated? 

 You don't seem to understand that having a great deal of success when people feel you are not worthy of it, is what it means to be overrated It's not that complicated.

[MisterMagoo]

ronnie has more pro victories than anyone and is tied for most olympia wins in a row, looking to beat the record. if you're going to go by what's on paper, nd, ronnie whips the shit out of dorian. and i'm a fan of dorian's, his black and white photos are favs of mine.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ronnie has more pro victories than anyone and is tied for most olympia wins in a row, looking to beat the record. if you're going to go by what's on paper, nd, ronnie whips the shit out of dorian. and i'm a fan of dorian's, his black and white photos are favs of mine.

Does he ? Ronnie has been competing since 1992 to present thats 15 years and Yates competed for 8 years , Yates 15 wins in 8 years and Ronnie 26 wins in 15 years , thats just 11 wins with an extra 7 years

Ronnie entered 11 contests before he won a Pro show , Dorian just 2 , look at the win percentages and tell me who whips the shit out who , Dorian 88% and Ronnie 57%

[LuciusFox]

Does he ? Ronnie has been competing since 1992 to present thats 15 years and Yates competed for 8 years , Yates 15 wins in 8 years and Ronnie 26 wins in 15 years , thats just 11 wins with an extra 7 years

Ronnie entered 11 contests before he won a Pro show , Dorian just 2 , look at the win percentages and tell me who whips the shit out who , Dorian 88% and Ronnie 57%

 That Ronnie was able to stay healthy only makes him a better example of a bodybuilder. Tearing muscles left and right and is not what bodybuilding is about. Win percentage is irrelevant to who was greater in their prime. Physique is what matters in this sport, especially given the subjective nature of judging.

[Rome]

That Ronnie was able to stay healthy only makes him a better example of a bodybuilder. Tearing muscles left and right and is not what bodybuilding is about. Win percentage is irrelevant to who was greater in their prime. Physique is what matters in this sport, especially given the subjective nature of judging.

You beat me to it. Win % means zero. Of course if you have a shorter career you're probably going to have a higher win/loss ratio. Does that mean the Shadow was better than Ronnie? Anyone with vision and an unbiased eye can answer that one. The Sandows in Mr Colemans home might give you a clue. Last time I checked 8 is greater than 5 

[Tigerman]

Does he ? Ronnie has been competing since 1992 to present thats 15 years and Yates competed for 8 years , Yates 15 wins in 8 years and Ronnie 26 wins in 15 years , thats just 11 wins with an extra 7 years

Ronnie entered 11 contests before he won a Pro show , Dorian just 2 , look at the win percentages and tell me who whips the shit out who , Dorian 88% and Ronnie 57%

Yeah ND, you are right! Ronnie is superior also for number of years in competition: 15-8!
MONSTER LONGEVITY!

[JDK]

those dont seem to be current pics as ronnie is too big (aint he kinda small now as he takes time off the supplements to relax) and lets get real, from the other pics we have seen the damn triceps (tendon) is torn pretty bad. we know he doesnt have bursitis.

these shots are from April 8th 2006 in Colmar, France
i think ronnie started his quest for his ninth olympia right after the arnold classic, where he was really small. right now he is noticably bigger than 1 month before.....