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what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« on: December 28, 2017, 05:54:26 AM »
My guess is a mild "maintenance" cycle
3g of test per week
GH (if he can get it it)

some clen before any shirt removing appearances, e.g recent posing in Dubai

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2017, 05:58:46 AM »
You know Jay has a special drawer in his fridge for the gh


Prob lays off androgens as much as he can

Prob very friendly with peptides as is Ron C

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2017, 06:05:51 AM »
just ask him  ;D

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2017, 06:14:13 AM »
 He pays alimony once a month.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2017, 07:04:51 AM »
Cycle? Those are for guys who actually go off.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2017, 07:15:38 AM »
This is his "stack"


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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2017, 07:28:41 AM »
the GH in his refrigerator was inadvertent revelation from one of his mitsuru videos.
btw - does mitsuru do videos anymore?

Jay probably cycles between low and high dosages, never really coming off.
Some cannot live without the size.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2017, 07:39:59 AM »
My guess is a mild "maintenance" cycle
3g of test per week
GH (if he can get it it)

some clen before any shirt removing appearances, e.g recent posing in Dubai

Don't wanna sound rude, but does anyone cares? 500 mgs/maximum

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2017, 07:57:38 AM »
My guess is a mild "maintenance" cycle
3g of test per week
GH (if he can get it it)

some clen before any shirt removing appearances, e.g recent posing in Dubai

I once asked what sort of gear Lou Ferrigno runs to maintain his size - and he is huge given that he just turned 66 last month.  Given his age, he is a large man, even if he is nowhere near as big as he was in his prime.  Someone replied that Lou likely runs about a gram of testosterone a week for maintenance.  That seemed HUGE to me, but I suppose for top level bodybuilders, that is hardly anything.  So it is quite possible that Jay runs more than that.  At the same time, at Jay's current age [44], it is probably not hard for him to maintain a higher level of body mass.  The issue is most likely keeping his body fat low.  That would be hard to do, and something I have maybe found a touch more difficult to do ever since turning 35 [I turned 36 seven days ago].  That said, I have not trained at all since April 1st - a long time, I know, but I will start again next week and be ready for the 2018 stronger season by May 1st, no problems at all.  :)  Even faster if I ran gear, but I can't really do that if I expect to compete at 170.  I am currently 185-lb in clothes, so I am likely 183 naked, as opposed to 173 naked.  I would probably be 178 if I trained, so I probably have 5-lb of body fat more than I normally do...but that's not so bad for 36 years old, and just starting to see my metabolism slow down.

Relating that to Cutler - and this is just a guess - but I assume maintaining muscle mass is not overly hard for him, but staying lean is.  So maybe he does use three grams of testosterone a week, or perhaps he is closer to the gram allegedly used by Lou [according to the speculations of one Getbigger].  As with any aging male, maintaining body weight is probably not difficult for him - even muscle mass.  But cutting body fat is another matter entirely, and likely something he has some "help" for.

That said, Jay still has some commercial interest in bodybuilding, so he probably wants to have a slightly bigger body than just a bit of muscle, in order to still sell himself in the industry.  It is also not likely overly difficult for him to be extremely muscular, albeit not his competitive off-season 315-lb at 5'8.5" that he historically was.  Nor is that size good for his health!  In a 2002 Ironman article [I believe] he told Lonnie Teper that he wanted to retire at 32, and slim down to around 230-lb.  I remember thinking that, Jay being my height, 230-lb would be HUGE!  That was not taking into consideration a higher body fat percentage though, perhaps something closer to 18%.  But still, that would be big.  I think Jay's success in bodybuilding made him keep going for a lot longer than he wanted to, and whatever health goals he once had, he decided were worth trading in for success in bodybuilding, which he obviously had plenty of.

I can't know what Jay currently uses.  But 1-3 grams of testosterone a week [maybe as low as one gram] is likely, as the OP said.  I do want to add one thing: three grams seems a bit steep though, does it not?  Wouldn't one gram a week coupled with some GH be plenty to maintain his current size?  After all, it's not like he is in competition shape anymore.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2017, 08:20:48 AM »
I once asked what sort of gear Lou Ferrigno runs to maintain his size - and he is huge given that he just turned 66 last month.  Given his age, he is a large man, even if he is nowhere near as big as he was in his prime.  Someone replied that Lou likely runs about a gram of testosterone a week for maintenance.  That seemed HUGE to me, but I suppose for top level bodybuilders, that is hardly anything.  So it is quite possible that Jay runs more than that.  At the same time, at Jay's current age [44], it is probably not hard for him to maintain a higher level of body mass.  The issue is most likely keeping his body fat low.  That would be hard to do, and something I have maybe found a touch more difficult to do ever since turning 35 [I turned 36 seven days ago].  That said, I have not trained at all since April 1st - a long time, I know, but I will start again next week and be ready for the 2018 stronger season by May 1st, no problems at all.  :)  Even faster if I ran gear, but I can't really do that if I expect to compete at 170.  I am currently 185-lb in clothes, so I am likely 183 naked, as opposed to 173 naked.  I would probably be 178 if I trained, so I probably have 5-lb of body fat more than I normally do...but that's not so bad for 36 years old, and just starting to see my metabolism slow down.

Relating that to Cutler - and this is just a guess - but I assume maintaining muscle mass is not overly hard for him, but staying lean is.  So maybe he does use three grams of testosterone a week, or perhaps he is closer to the gram allegedly used by Lou [according to the speculations of one Getbigger].  As with any aging male, maintaining body weight is probably not difficult for him - even muscle mass.  But cutting body fat is another matter entirely, and likely something he has some "help" for.

That said, Jay still has some commercial interest in bodybuilding, so he probably wants to have a slightly bigger body than just a bit of muscle, in order to still sell himself in the industry.  It is also not likely overly difficult for him to be extremely muscular, albeit not his competitive off-season 315-lb at 5'8.5" that he historically was.  Nor is that size good for his health!  In a 2002 Ironman article [I believe] he told Lonnie Teper that he wanted to retire at 32, and slim down to around 230-lb.  I remember thinking that, Jay being my height, 230-lb would be HUGE!  That was not taking into consideration a higher body fat percentage though, perhaps something closer to 18%.  But still, that would be big.  I think Jay's success in bodybuilding made him keep going for a lot longer than he wanted to, and whatever health goals he once had, he decided was worth trading in for success in bodybuilding, which he obviously had plenty of.

I can't know what Jay currently uses.  But 1-3 grams of testosterone a week [maybe as low as one gram] is likely, as the OP said.  I do want to add one thing: three grams seems a bit steep though, does it not?  Wouldn't one gram a week coupled with some GH be plenty to maintain his current size?  After all, it's not like he is in competition shape anymore.

He's bigger than guys running 5x what he's running. Given he's already built a foundation and only needs to maintain. But still, if you put it into that perspective, 2-3 grams doesn't seem too far fetched.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2017, 08:27:37 AM »
It really does not take much to maintain size once you have it.  500mg of test and 4-6iu of GH would be plenty to maintain a 230-240lb bodyweight that is fairly lean.  It does not take anywhere near 3 grams of test a week to maintain that, especially if he was used to being around 300lb before.  Now getting in top shape would obviously require much more, but to simply walk around at 230-240lb is not difficult with a moderate dose of test and some GH.  It's absolutely insane some of the dosages people run, and they don't even weigh 200lbs and still fat.  Guys using grams of test, tren, etc. and still can't crack 200lb.  Time to find a different hobby.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2017, 08:27:55 AM »
I once asked what sort of gear Lou Ferrigno runs to maintain his size - and he is huge given that he just turned 66 last month.  Given his age, he is a large man, even if he is nowhere near as big as he was in his prime.  Someone replied that Lou likely runs about a gram of testosterone a week for maintenance.  That seemed HUGE to me, but I suppose for top level bodybuilders, that is hardly anything.  So it is quite possible that Jay runs more than that.  At the same time, at Jay's current age [44], it is probably not hard for him to maintain a higher level of body mass.  The issue is most likely keeping his body fat low.  That would be hard to do, and something I have maybe found a touch more difficult to do ever since turning 35 [I turned 36 seven days ago].  That said, I have not trained at all since April 1st - a long time, I know, but I will start again next week and be ready for the 2018 stronger season by May 1st, no problems at all.  :)  Even faster if I ran gear, but I can't really do that if I expect to compete at 170.  I am currently 185-lb in clothes, so I am likely 183 naked, as opposed to 173 naked.  I would probably be 178 if I trained, so I probably have 5-lb of body fat more than I normally do...but that's not so bad for 36 years old, and just starting to see my metabolism slow down.

Relating that to Cutler - and this is just a guess - but I assume maintaining muscle mass is not overly hard for him, but staying lean is.  So maybe he does use three grams of testosterone a week, or perhaps he is closer to the gram allegedly used by Lou [according to the speculations of one Getbigger].  As with any aging male, maintaining body weight is probably not difficult for him - even muscle mass.  But cutting body fat is another matter entirely, and likely something he has some "help" for.

That said, Jay still has some commercial interest in bodybuilding, so he probably wants to have a slightly bigger body than just a bit of muscle, in order to still sell himself in the industry.  It is also not likely overly difficult for him to be extremely muscular, albeit not his competitive off-season 315-lb at 5'8.5" that he historically was.  Nor is that size good for his health!  In a 2002 Ironman article [I believe] he told Lonnie Teper that he wanted to retire at 32, and slim down to around 230-lb.  I remember thinking that, Jay being my height, 230-lb would be HUGE!  That was not taking into consideration a higher body fat percentage though, perhaps something closer to 18%.  But still, that would be big.  I think Jay's success in bodybuilding made him keep going for a lot longer than he wanted to, and whatever health goals he once had, he decided was worth trading in for success in bodybuilding, which he obviously had plenty of.

I can't know what Jay currently uses.  But 1-3 grams of testosterone a week [maybe as low as one gram] is likely, as the OP said.  I do want to add one thing: three grams seems a bit steep though, does it not?  Wouldn't one gram a week coupled with some GH be plenty to maintain his current size?  After all, it's not like he is in competition shape anymore.
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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2017, 08:29:56 AM »
It really does not take much to maintain size once you have it.  500mg of test and 4-6iu of GH would be plenty to maintain a 230-240lb bodyweight that is fairly lean.  It does not take anywhere near 3 grams of test a week to maintain that, especially if he was used to being around 300lb before.  Now getting in top shape would obviously require much more, but to simply walk around at 230-240lb is not difficult with a moderate dose of test and some GH.  It's absolutely insane some of the dosages people run, and they don't even weigh 200lbs and still fat.  Guys using grams of test, tren, etc. and still can't crack 200lb.  Time to find a different hobby.

Sorry but 500mg of test and 6iu of gh does not equate to 240 at 5'7" with sub 10%~ bf. If that was the case if he upped the doses and added IGF etc he'd be on stage at 400 lbs

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2017, 09:42:02 AM »
I would say 200mg of test and 2iu growth, a liberal HRT. If Jay needs to boost his size he can easily do a mini cycle and gain 20lbs within days. He's not on "grams" anymore.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2017, 09:44:22 AM »
My guess is a mild "maintenance" cycle
3g of test per week
GH (if he can get it it)

some clen before any shirt removing appearances, e.g recent posing in Dubai

lmao...you're joking, right? lol

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2017, 09:51:36 AM »
I would say 200mg of test and 2iu growth, a liberal HRT. If Jay needs to boost his size he can easily do a mini cycle and gain 20lbs within days. He's not on "grams" anymore.

Lol

Ya right he would disappear. So called experts lol.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2017, 09:54:07 AM »
Three grams each week?!

Holy fucksticks. This is madness.

I can’t believe something so nutty.

And anyway, he looks like shit.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2017, 09:57:20 AM »
I would say 200mg of test and 2iu growth, a liberal HRT. If Jay needs to boost his size he can easily do a mini cycle and gain 20lbs within days. He's not on "grams" anymore.

Lol

This. People don't understand what pharm gh can do for holding muscle especially in older guys.

Wow Weinberger's head is almost as big as Jay's. :D

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2017, 10:16:06 AM »
Bev’s transitioning nicely

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2017, 10:29:29 AM »
Bev’s transitioning nicely

She used to come to my gym on occasion back in the day when she powerlifted. Beast!

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2017, 10:31:44 AM »
She used to come to my gym on occasion back in the day when she powerlifted. Beast!

She has that classic lesbian gym teacher look

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2017, 10:33:37 AM »
She has that classic lesbian gym teacher look

One bullish bitch. By this point her clit must be like Heath’s nose.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2017, 10:56:46 AM »
She has that classic lesbian gym teacher look

Exactly and she had some work done to look more fem when she began bodybuilding.

Always a nice women.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2017, 11:05:44 AM »
This. People don't understand what pharm gh can do for holding muscle especially in older guys.

Wow Weinberger's head is almost as big as Jay's. :D

Jay looks awesome there and weinbergers headbis bigger than jays haha.

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Re: what is Jay Cutler's current cycle?
« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2017, 11:18:53 AM »
He's bigger than guys running 5x what he's running. Given he's already built a foundation and only needs to maintain. But still, if you put it into that perspective, 2-3 grams doesn't seem too far fetched.

I think you are right that whatever Jay uses is probably pretty darn high.  Is Jay's father still alive?  I think he would be 90 this year if so.  He was 46 when Jay was born.  So Jay has pretty good genetics, but that level of gear abuse will likely catch up with him eventually.  Sad that a bodybuilder can't enjoy retirement life without being a shell of his former self.  A retired hockey player has nowhere near the skill he once did, but you can't tell that just by looking at one.  But with bodybuilders, everyone can tell, which tempts them to continue to use PEDs in large quantities.  It's kind of sad.  Meanwhile, both a retired bodybuilder and a retired hockey player are nowhere near what they were at their respective primes - it's just that you can only tell that with the retired bodybuilder.

Just one thing though, QuietYou - you said some use 5x what Jay did, but was that an exaggeration?  If Jay is using 2-3 grams a week, do you really think others are running up to 10-15 grams?